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Old 11-05-2012, 06:37 PM
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James, do you do a stat that opens at around 85-90 degrees? Mark disconnected and by-passed my turbo cooler 'cause it was running too cold, (won't be running it at all now as the Borg Warner turbo isn't water cooled), even put some aluminium foil in front of part of the rad, but still ran too cold on any thing other than urban roads.
Old 11-05-2012, 07:28 PM
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Interesting idea.

Just to broaden the horizon a little bit, do modern cars turbo cars say an Evo, Impreza, Focus ST/RS, Audi turbos etc run turbo coolers? Would these cars also benefit from one too? And also what do you ascertain as when a turbo cooler NEEDS to be fitted?
Old 13-05-2012, 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
No, I am being factual mate, do you know what that turbo was first used on? I hope so after that comment... so lets hear your knowledge...?
Its you who was talking only about your old technology turbos... James was aiming the discussion at all types of turbo.

As for being behind as a company, I have 105 installers all over the world remapping more marques of cars than any other one company on the planet.
Interestingly, Kenny is currently recalibrating an April 2012 BMW 535D for an installer over in Greece, without ever having seen it, and we are working with him using data logs of AFR, ACT, EGT and pump / injector pressure online from his dyno thousands of miles away... sounds pretty current to me, but humour me, what is your company doing right now?
to be fair mate i think your a sound guy who knows is stuff and you have a great company who do great things

my second post was purely ment to show you a pointless post so when you read one you might know when you type one

my first reply to james was an honest question and you just came across to try and shoot me down cos ive not used a gt series turbo or something newer well in fact i bet the majority of cossie owners still use the t34 lol

so i see my first question to james as a valid one for us all

i hope you take that on bored

many thanks
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This sounds like a great idea as when i'm just cruising i'm lucky to get temp above 64c which will probably account for my dire fuel comsumption about 15mpg.
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Originally Posted by Sonic Boom
This sounds like a great idea as when i'm just cruising i'm lucky to get temp above 64c which will probably account for my dire fuel comsumption about 15mpg.
Rich
I'd get that sorted ASAP mate as it will be bore washing with that much fuel going in!
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Will it be passive or will it be electronic like an oil stat?
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Originally Posted by MAD Ade
James, do you do a stat that opens at around 85-90 degrees? Mark disconnected and by-passed my turbo cooler 'cause it was running too cold, (won't be running it at all now as the Borg Warner turbo isn't water cooled), even put some aluminium foil in front of part of the rad, but still ran too cold on any thing other than urban roads.
Take that as a no then....
Old 15-05-2012, 09:44 PM
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2wd? Or 4x4 stat housing?
Old 16-05-2012, 05:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Sonic Boom
This sounds like a great idea as when i'm just cruising i'm lucky to get temp above 64c which will probably account for my dire fuel comsumption about 15mpg.
Rich
I would go and see that old fart at Turbosystems about that.

I managed to get 32.1mpg driving to Tonys. Even with Tony thrashing mine around and a spirited drive to the dyno and back the car still done 18.43mpg

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Old 18-05-2012, 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by James @ M Developments.
2wd? Or 4x4 stat housing?
2wd

Old 18-05-2012, 08:33 PM
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Use a std 88 deg stat then?
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Our turbo cooler stat will be 82 degrees
Old 18-05-2012, 10:19 PM
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When will these be available James?
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Old 13-06-2012, 08:43 PM
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Anymore development on these James?
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Old 13-06-2012, 08:45 PM
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Not yet I've had no time to carry on yet,
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Did you get round to making a prototype?
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Old 14-06-2012, 05:44 AM
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Would this be ok to let cold water in the system?
If you've been driving on a motorway the turbo cooler would be by passed via the thermostat, so the water will be stone cold on the turbo cooler.
So soon as the water temps rise it will allow the cold water from the turbo cooler back into the system.
Old 14-06-2012, 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by B13 JUS
Would this be ok to let cold water in the system?
If you've been driving on a motorway the turbo cooler would be by passed via the thermostat, so the water will be stone cold on the turbo cooler.
So soon as the water temps rise it will allow the cold water from the turbo cooler back into the system.
no it wont, as the valve i have constanly allows a trace flow through the turbo cooler.
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Originally Posted by Sonic Boom
Did you get round to making a prototype?
Rich

i have a test valve yes.
Old 14-06-2012, 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by James @ M Developments.
i have a test valve yes.
James, sorry to invade on your thread, can you check your PM's

many thanks
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Originally Posted by James @ M Developments.
no it wont, as the valve i have constanly allows a trace flow through the turbo cooler.
That's clears that up, thanks.

Any idea when it will be ready and how much it will be?
Old 25-11-2013, 09:24 PM
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Did you ever get a chance to finish this James?
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Old 25-11-2013, 09:51 PM
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I have a t34.63 with no water cooling, will it benefit me??
Old 26-11-2013, 08:14 AM
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well i did test it and it worked fine, really havent had the time to go much further with it, i still have the tester here.
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I've been meaning to look into this for a while, Mine definitely needs one.
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Originally Posted by James @ M Developments.
well i did test it and it worked fine, really havent had the time to go much further with it, i still have the tester here.
Pull your finger out then
I'd be very interested in one mate.
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Old 26-11-2013, 09:42 PM
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Will these be different to the one you're selling?
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Old 27-11-2013, 08:17 AM
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No the cooler will be exactly the same, i was making a unit that fitted into the pipe work to act as a thermostat.
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The small stats that do the job i want are hard to come by,

I have one that works perfectly, but its just a little ugly and hard to hide away.
Ideally you would also need a second return welded onto the header tank for the bypass piping.
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I don't think that is a problem really, I would be quite happy to modify the header tank while mine is in bits and i am powder coating the tank anyway. Could always sit the thermostat on the inner wing and make a bit of a cover to smarten it up a bit.
It seems easy enough to find inline thermostat housings with 32mm ish in/outlets, I've not found any smaller ones. I would use a 12v 3 way solenoid as Rod suggested but dont want to end up with running another gauge to give an output to drive the solenoid. Maybe if one of the monitors on the market could do this...
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The inline stats wont really do the job properly as they will just stop the flow, It would be better than cooling cold water down but my idea was to use the hot water from the turbo to aid warm up, so we need to divert this straight back to the header tank, re diverting it thorough the cooler when its up to temperature.
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Interesting! I'd be interested in one of these.
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Originally Posted by James @ M Developments.
The small stats that do the job i want are hard to come by,

I have one that works perfectly, but its just a little ugly and hard to hide away.
Ideally you would also need a second return welded onto the header tank for the bypass piping.
Have you got photo of the setup James?

Originally Posted by fraser9764
I don't think that is a problem really, I would be quite happy to modify the header tank while mine is in bits and i am powder coating the tank anyway. Could always sit the thermostat on the inner wing and make a bit of a cover to smarten it up a bit.
It seems easy enough to find inline thermostat housings with 32mm ish in/outlets, I've not found any smaller ones. I would use a 12v 3 way solenoid as Rod suggested but dont want to end up with running another gauge to give an output to drive the solenoid. Maybe if one of the monitors on the market could do this...
Same here, plus I don't really care what it looks like as long as it works.
Rich
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I'd buy one....especially if connected to an airtec
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