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Old 20-11-2010, 05:37 PM   #1
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as title, is it possible to just change the lock barrel in my front door or will i need all new handles etc?

blooody door is only a few months old but my not so friendly plumber still has a key and is being a cunt about giving it back so it's a choice between going and persuading him to give me the key back or getting the lock changed but i would like to know which is likely to be more time consuming.
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Old 20-11-2010, 05:40 PM   #2
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Course you can!! It's a piece of piss to change too!!
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Old 20-11-2010, 05:41 PM   #3
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Look on the strip down the edge of the door and you'll see a screw thats level with the bottom of the lock barrel. Unscrew it, Put your key in the lock turn the key to the one o'clock position and the lock barrel will pull out.
Measure the overall length of the old lock and measure from the cam in the middle to the outer edge (both sides) and that'll give you what you need to buy a new one.
45/50 are the most common sized euro cylinders i used to use, shouldnt pay more than 20 quid for a new 'un from B&Q or screwfix etc
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Old 20-11-2010, 05:41 PM   #4
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yes you should be able to,cost about £5-£10 for a new one with keys,we did ours.
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Old 20-11-2010, 05:42 PM   #5
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will take about 10 mins tops..just make sure you get the correct size lock as there are loads of different sizes
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easy mate. look on ide of door and there will be a screw around the catch area. remove this and the lock will then pull out either way. Measure lock from both sides are some ar different length up to the catch ie 60mm one sie 70mm other. take measurements to locksmiths/ b+q etc and get new lock and fit
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Oh, and dont be talked into buying anti drill/ anti bump/ anti snap euro cylinders either, waste of money imo, just get a boggo one
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In a word "Yes" it is a very simple procedure
What you have is whats known as a "Euro Barrel" and to remove it open the door and if you look in the rebate were the lock mechanism is and were the Barrel is you will see a slightly different screw which is securing the lock. Simply unscrew this. Make sure you have to Key in the lock as it needs to be turned slightly for the Barrel to be withdrawn.Just need to wiggle it from side to side a little as the fit is quite tight going through the Handles. I sometimes loosen the Handle screws to ease it. Once removed you will have to make sure you get the exact same size so measure is and check the "Offset" of the lock. Might want to change it for a "Thumb Turn" while you are at it so you can lock it from the inside without a key
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In a word "Yes" it is a very simple procedure
What you have is whats known as a "Euro Barrel" and to remove it open the door and if you look in the rebate were the lock mechanism is and were the Barrel is you will see a slightly different screw which is securing the lock. Simply unscrew this. Make sure you have to Key in the lock as it needs to be turned slightly for the Barrel to be withdrawn.Just need to wiggle it from side to side a little as the fit is quite tight going through the Handles. I sometimes loosen the Handle screws to ease it. Once removed you will have to make sure you get the exact same size so measure is and check the "Offset" of the lock. Might want to change it for a "Thumb Turn" while you are at it so you can lock it from the inside without a key
I'd advise against a thumb turn if its in an external door, EXTREMELY easy to open without the keys...
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cheers folks, found em on B&Q for £15-£20 just need to be sure which one i need so will pull it apart tomorrow. i'll take so much pleasure in telling the "plumber" to shove the key right where it's not gonna see daylight again
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ooooooooooh or a fiver from screw fix which is right next door to B&Q
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How easy is it to change the lock when the door is locked and can't be opened? I've a door I've not been able to open as I didn't have the keys when I moved in.
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2 minute job, just make sure you get the right size and profile. I've got various sized double euro cylinders and thumbturn models in stock. If you can't get one and I've got stock in the right size I'll send you one free of charge. All mine come with 3 keys
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2 minute job, just make sure you get the right size and profile. I've got various sized double euro cylinders and thumbturn models in stock. If you can't get one and I've got stock in the right size I'll send you one free of charge. All mine come with 3 keys
cant say fairer than that
The company I worked for charged £38 + vat Then £65 + vat to fit it
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cheers for the offer mike, i'll see what i can pick up tomorrow and possibly get back to you.
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Just make sure the lock sits flush with your handle on the outside of the door, ie none of the lock poking out at all.
Deff dont get a thumb turn, as above very easy to open.
Easy job though, OMFG at the above £38+vat for the euro then £65+vat for fitting, anyone wonder where locksmiths tend to be labelled at very expensive/ rips off merchants. I would feel so so embarrassed if I quoted someone £120 to supply and fit a euro.

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As above, you can get a "snapper" and a crucifix and be into a euro thats too long in seconds, £120 for an exchange hubba hubba lol
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right folks, i've taken it out and had a measure up, do i measure to each side of the locking cam or include it?

if i measure to each side of the cam it's 40/45 which looks about right with whats on the screwfix site but they all say over all length of 85mm but mine measures 95mm overall including the cam.
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2 minute job, just make sure you get the right size and profile. I've got various sized double euro cylinders and thumbturn models in stock. If you can't get one and I've got stock in the right size I'll send you one free of charge. All mine come with 3 keys
What a nice offer....Nice 1 mike..
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after seeing how easy these lock are to remove and open without a key i don’t trust them security wise is it possible to get a new cylinder that sits flush with the outside of the PVC door casing so there is no lip for the barrel to be snapped from the outside
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