Plated FWD Diffs

XRT_si · 21-04-2010, 12:04 PM

Who sells them? Gripper doesnt list one for my application (MTX75) but awaiting a reply as to see if there's anything else they can do.

Any other suggestions?

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Lloyd · 21-04-2010, 01:22 PM

gripper will make you a diff if there is a market for them.

phil_focus · 21-04-2010, 01:52 PM

kaaz do a platted diff for the mtx75, will be shit on the road though

XRT_si · 21-04-2010, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Lloyd

gripper will make you a diff if there is a market for them.

Which is borderline

XRT_si · 21-04-2010, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by phil_focus

kaaz do a platted diff for the mtx75, will be shit on the road though

I'll have a look thanks. If you mean it's drag only diff I can put up with it on the road as otherwise I'm going to weld the fucker.

focusrrx87 · 21-04-2010, 02:12 PM

try torsen/ford racing

SiZT · 21-04-2010, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by focusrrx87

try torsen/ford racing

Those are ATB's, not plated

XRT_si · 21-04-2010, 02:49 PM

Looking at Kaaz diffs but they are about £1k with fitting. Don't mind paying a bit but that's a bit much for a diff.

Might be welding it after all!

WongRS · 21-04-2010, 05:56 PM

Do Tran-x do one?

Rick · 21-04-2010, 06:30 PM

weld it as a welded diff isn't going to be much if any worse than a plated

WongRS · 21-04-2010, 06:36 PM

a welded diff would be horrendous in a FWD! it just wouldn't turn, plated has got some give in it!

Rick · 21-04-2010, 07:02 PM

the one i drove in a gravel spec nova a few years back didn't turn either on tarmac!

XRT_si · 21-04-2010, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by WongRS

a welded diff would be horrendous in a FWD! it just wouldn't turn, plated has got some give in it!

As Rick says after reading reviews I can't seeing it being much worse if at all. I've heard welded diffs on FWD can pop CV joints out on tight turns but can't really see that. I've heard of others saying they've experienced it and isn't that bad

Lloyd · 21-04-2010, 08:57 PM

i used to race a mini with a welded diff, it worked ok on the corners provided you where going fast,but if you had to stop mid corner, you had to spin the wheels to get it going again.and tyre wear was excessive.the way to drive it was to slide the rear end round.hard rear set up.
with a plated diff,you can adjust the preload to make it more road useable.ie it doesnt lock as easily. but that kind of defeats the object if you are after 1/4 mile times.

crazycage · 21-04-2010, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Lloyd

i used to race a mini with a welded diff, it worked ok on the corners provided you where going fast,but if you had to stop mid corner, you had to spin the wheels to get it going again.and tyre wear was excessive.
with a plated diff,you can adjust the preload to make it more road useable.ie it doesnt lock as easily. but that kind of defeats the object if you are after 1/4 mile times.

what happend to your 11.5 second 1/4mile times at central day mate ? did the car not make it down.

Lloyd · 21-04-2010, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by crazycage

what happend to your 11.5 second 1/4mile times at central day mate ? did the car not make it down.

due to having no income,i had to sell it .broke for parts,as thats where the best money is.
bought 2 4x4 cossys to break for spares with the procedes.
i had a trade stand with my mate at central day.

still it was only a car,and my mortgage was more important.if the country ever recovers from the shit its in,i may build another one.

crazycage · 21-04-2010, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Lloyd

due to having no income,i had to sell it .broke for parts,as thats where the best money is.
bought 2 4x4 cossys to break for spares with the procedes.
i had a trade stand with my mate at central day.

still it was only a car,and my mortgage was more important.if the country ever recovers from the shit its in,i may build another one.

gutted!!!! i was looking forward to it going up the strip.

Lloyd · 21-04-2010, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by crazycage

gutted!!!! i was looking forward to it going up the strip.

yeah and me , but on the bright side, i now have a parts list to build another one.i know what works and what doesnt,and how to fit it all together.so it will be a lot easier next time.

XRT_si · 21-04-2010, 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lloyd

i used to race a mini with a welded diff, it worked ok on the corners provided you where going fast,but if you had to stop mid corner, you had to spin the wheels to get it going again.and tyre wear was excessive.the way to drive it was to slide the rear end round.hard rear set up.
with a plated diff,you can adjust the preload to make it more road useable.ie it doesnt lock as easily. but that kind of defeats the object if you are after 1/4 mile times.

As you say the pre loads won't be far off a welded. If I don't find a decent priced it's what I will be doing I think.

Lloyd · 21-04-2010, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by XRT_si

As you say the pre loads won't be far off a welded. If I don't find a decent priced it's what I will be doing I think.

i think gripper will make you one for around 700 quid.ring them and ask for john.

WongRS · 22-04-2010, 08:08 AM

I've driven 3 Road rally cars with plated diffs, you can run at them at different levels of lock though, all 3 turned in very well on tarmac, but where a constant battle and not a pleasureable drive!

Autoflock Motorsport · 22-04-2010, 12:15 PM

I have looked into plated diffs before I bought my cts, there is a lot of adjusting which needs to be done especially when the internal clutch plate wares. These diffs were designed to be removed and adjusted between each rally stage to suit the stage conditions, not really practical when used on a normal road going car. If you are thinking of welding the diff up for a road car be prepared to go through plenty of drive shafts and bottom arms

I got this info from quaiffe as I was looging at one of their old plated items which came up on ebay a while back.

XRT_si · 22-04-2010, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Autoflock Motorsport

I have looked into plated diffs before I bought my cts, there is a lot of adjusting which needs to be done especially when the internal clutch plate wares. These diffs were designed to be removed and adjusted between each rally stage to suit the stage conditions, not really practical when used on a normal road going car. If you are thinking of welding the diff up for a road car be prepared to go through plenty of drive shafts and bottom arms

I got this info from quaiffe as I was looging at one of their old plated items which came up on ebay a while back.

I had a mate use a FWD welded diff on a every day car for quite awhile. Also heard of some Greek boys do it on turbo cars. All I've heard is that it can pop out CV joints on tight corners.

Cant see driveshafts and bottom arms being a problem really.

Autoflock Motorsport · 22-04-2010, 12:54 PM

Did you drive the car? ive been in a mk1 rwd escort with welded diff and it was terrible, as for drive shafts the wheel hub spline will be wanting to rotate differently to the gearbox spline so this will incurr a lot of stress, either way it will put stress on the drive shaft or the suspension. Ive never been in a fwd drive car with a welded diff so you probably know more than me, I would of thought it would be more hastle than benifit as traction is only improved in a straight line, the car would be encouriged to spin as soon as you turned the wheel which is not ideal at all for a fwd car. If its for the drag strip then maybe it could work well???

XRT_si · 22-04-2010, 01:18 PM

It will be for the strip so may just see what it's like.

I used to have a welded diff on my RWD Cossie and didn't find it half as bad as people said it would be. Easily lived with it, it was only VERY tight turns you noticed it at all, and the rest of the time it was arsing out anyway

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XRT_si PassionFord Post Whore!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (2) Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: London Posts: 5,118 Rep Power: 12	Looking at Kaaz diffs but they are about £1k with fitting. Don't mind paying a bit but that's a bit much for a diff. Might be welding it after all! __________________ 1968 Mk2 Cortina - Zetec turbo - 329bhp at 14psi so far... Classic Fords FTW!

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Rick 15K+ Super Poster!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: May 2003 Location: Stockport, Cheshire Posts: 15,555 Rep Power: 24	weld it as a welded diff isn't going to be much if any worse than a plated __________________ Bespoke calibration and remapping, OEM & Aftermarket management

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21-04-2010, 06:36 PM	#11
WongRS PassionFord Post Troll 1990 Ford sierra Trader Score: (11) Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Oswestry, Shropshire Posts: 3,204 Rep Power: 8	a welded diff would be horrendous in a FWD! it just wouldn't turn, plated has got some give in it! __________________ Dan. M.A.Developments 500 spec engine, GT30, Autronic, 1000cc injectors, ST Inlet ETC.....

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Rick 15K+ Super Poster!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: May 2003 Location: Stockport, Cheshire Posts: 15,555 Rep Power: 24	the one i drove in a gravel spec nova a few years back didn't turn either on tarmac! __________________ Bespoke calibration and remapping, OEM & Aftermarket management

21-04-2010, 08:57 PM	#14
Lloyd escort mk4 cossy 4x4 Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: May 2004 Location: coventry Posts: 4,633 Rep Power: 12	i used to race a mini with a welded diff, it worked ok on the corners provided you where going fast,but if you had to stop mid corner, you had to spin the wheels to get it going again.and tyre wear was excessive.the way to drive it was to slide the rear end round.hard rear set up. with a plated diff,you can adjust the preload to make it more road useable.ie it doesnt lock as easily. but that kind of defeats the object if you are after 1/4 mile times. __________________ Last edited by Lloyd; 21-04-2010 at 08:59 PM.

22-04-2010, 08:08 AM	#21
WongRS PassionFord Post Troll 1990 Ford sierra Trader Score: (11) Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Oswestry, Shropshire Posts: 3,204 Rep Power: 8	I've driven 3 Road rally cars with plated diffs, you can run at them at different levels of lock though, all 3 turned in very well on tarmac, but where a constant battle and not a pleasureable drive! __________________ Dan. M.A.Developments 500 spec engine, GT30, Autronic, 1000cc injectors, ST Inlet ETC.....

22-04-2010, 12:15 PM	#22
Autoflock Motorsport Advanced PassionFord User Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: North Wales Posts: 1,707 Rep Power: 4	I have looked into plated diffs before I bought my cts, there is a lot of adjusting which needs to be done especially when the internal clutch plate wares. These diffs were designed to be removed and adjusted between each rally stage to suit the stage conditions, not really practical when used on a normal road going car. If you are thinking of welding the diff up for a road car be prepared to go through plenty of drive shafts and bottom arms I got this info from quaiffe as I was looging at one of their old plated items which came up on ebay a while back. __________________ Kind regards Raj *info@autoflock.co.uk - Get a Quote - 07894 636 707 - Facebook* *Please use the above methods for contacting us as PM's are hard to keep track of*

22-04-2010, 12:54 PM	#24
Autoflock Motorsport Advanced PassionFord User Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: North Wales Posts: 1,707 Rep Power: 4	Did you drive the car? ive been in a mk1 rwd escort with welded diff and it was terrible, as for drive shafts the wheel hub spline will be wanting to rotate differently to the gearbox spline so this will incurr a lot of stress, either way it will put stress on the drive shaft or the suspension. Ive never been in a fwd drive car with a welded diff so you probably know more than me, I would of thought it would be more hastle than benifit as traction is only improved in a straight line, the car would be encouriged to spin as soon as you turned the wheel which is not ideal at all for a fwd car. If its for the drag strip then maybe it could work well??? __________________ Kind regards Raj *info@autoflock.co.uk - Get a Quote - 07894 636 707 - Facebook* *Please use the above methods for contacting us as PM's are hard to keep track of*

22-04-2010, 01:18 PM	#25
XRT_si PassionFord Post Whore!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (2) Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: London Posts: 5,118 Rep Power: 12	It will be for the strip so may just see what it's like. I used to have a welded diff on my RWD Cossie and didn't find it half as bad as people said it would be. Easily lived with it, it was only VERY tight turns you noticed it at all, and the rest of the time it was arsing out anyway __________________ 1968 Mk2 Cortina - Zetec turbo - 329bhp at 14psi so far... Classic Fords FTW!

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