Who makes the best diesel engine?

DHMC · 11-03-2010, 06:39 PM

Looking to get a dieseal car for workies....

Who makes the best one power wise?

Every diesel I've driven has nothing to offer.

Any good v6 diesels out there?

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danneth · 11-03-2010, 06:40 PM

BMW

LHD220Turbo · 11-03-2010, 06:41 PM

golf gt tdi with a remap; awesome

pee vee · 11-03-2010, 06:42 PM

probably bmw.. 335d

that said,, VW do that V10 or V12 Diesel Toureg dont they, that must have some twist!

DHMC · 11-03-2010, 06:50 PM

I was thinking about the bora 130 remapped

danneth · 11-03-2010, 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DHMC

I was thinking about the bora 130 remapped

go and drive a mapped 535d/335d

let me know what you think to the bora then

Rhys · 11-03-2010, 06:53 PM

BMW, they have won awards i think for their 3ltr dervs both single turbo and two turbo veriants.

danzul · 11-03-2010, 06:54 PM

toyota do a very good deisel engine in my opinion, the D-4D drove and evensis at work last year with one and bugger me it was tourqy! and they are above average on the economy side

It's Czech Mate · 11-03-2010, 07:38 PM

BMW diesels are good

Jaguar diesels are fecking good as well

ECU Monitor Enthusiast · 11-03-2010, 07:48 PM

Cummins

c.h.r.i.s · 11-03-2010, 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DHMC

I was thinking about the bora 130 remapped

Great choice

Evo chips remap made so much difference. I sometimes drive exactly the same spec car but standard and it feels so flat compared to mine.

Rich_bloor · 11-03-2010, 07:52 PM

a guy is famous on the net for raving about his 335d, iicr i think it was mapped.

jammerrs · 11-03-2010, 08:01 PM

get a 335d mapped

the dark side (vauxhall) do a v6 vecta one

Rs Gary · 11-03-2010, 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mondeo Man

BMW diesels are good

Jaguar diesels are fecking good as well

jag diesels are fords and the ford diesel is a cracking engine
cheeRS gary
AKA shrek

Porkie · 11-03-2010, 08:07 PM

BMW.... any of them!

bigger the better

Audi V12 is a monster as well... the one in the big Q7...

oh and this!

Kirbycossie · 11-03-2010, 08:14 PM

i own 530d and its superb although for performance i drove an audi a8 4.2 tdi quattro and was blown away by how fast that diesel car could hustle.

It's Czech Mate · 11-03-2010, 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rs Gary

jag diesels are fords and the ford diesel is a cracking engine
cheeRS gary
AKA shrek

What ford does the three litre twin turbo jag engine come from?

Its up there with the best of the other manufacturers thats for sure

( edit i see its part of the PSA thing http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_AJD-V6/PSA_DT17 )

It's Czech Mate · 11-03-2010, 08:17 PM

In fact i'd say the jag diesel in the xf is rated as best in class from what i've read, and this seems to back it up

http://www.jaguar-enthusiasts.org.uk/aj-v6d-gen3.html

Rick · 11-03-2010, 08:20 PM

jag emissions aren't as good as the BM though if you're thinking about running costs.

It's Czech Mate · 11-03-2010, 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick

jag emissions aren't as good as the BM though if you're thinking about running costs.

BMW I have 217g/kg on a 535d and 40.4 mpg

For the Jag I have 179g/kg and 44mpg

Also the jag is significantly more powerful....

Rs Gary · 11-03-2010, 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mondeo Man

What ford does the three litre twin turbo jag engine come from?

Its up there with the best of the other manufacturers thats for sure

( edit i see its part of the PSA thing http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_AJD-V6/PSA_DT17 )

that engine is their new one and its a peugeot citreon engine,the smaller ones are ford engines from the mondeo mr mondeo man

cheeRS gary
AKA shrek

TIFF · 11-03-2010, 08:39 PM

My 330d BMW was a superb engine and even sounded good.......

Also had a 130bhp TDi Passat.....good engine and nice to drive

danneth · 11-03-2010, 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mondeo Man

BMW I have 217g/kg on a 535d and 40.4 mpg

For the Jag I have 179g/kg and 44mpg

Also the jag is significantly more powerful....

which jag? i thought they were 270bhp???

Jay246 · 11-03-2010, 08:48 PM

volvos d5 engine is very good. super smooth although not so powerful for its size.

DazC · 11-03-2010, 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rs Gary

that engine is their new one and its a peugeot citreon engine,the smaller ones are ford engines from the mondeo mr mondeo man

cheeRS gary
AKA shrek

PSA supply the smaller engines and ford supply the bigger engines. anything above a 2.2litre is a ford engine.

DazC · 11-03-2010, 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flux Capacitor.

Cummins

I thought the same when i saw the title too!

It's Czech Mate · 11-03-2010, 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by danneth

which jag? i thought they were 270bhp???

Not peak power, area under the curve

The Jag XF Diesel S is 0-60 in 5.9s
BMW 535d sport is 0-60 in 6.4s

The Jag is cheaper, less CO2 and does more MPG and is faster.

It's Czech Mate · 11-03-2010, 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rs Gary

that engine is their new one and its a peugeot citreon engine,the smaller ones are ford engines from the mondeo mr mondeo man

cheeRS gary
AKA shrek

Oh lol

The smaller engines ( 4pot ) are PSA and the Ford ones are the bigger ones.......so you couldnt be more wrong

As I was alluding to, its a shame the fantastic 3.0 twin turbo diesel isnt showcased in a Ford model.

danneth · 11-03-2010, 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mondeo Man

Not peak power, area under the curve

The Jag XF Diesel S is 0-60 in 5.9s
BMW 535d sport is 0-60 in 6.4s

The Jag is cheaper, less CO2 and does more MPG and is faster.

ahh your on about the 2010 one as the others are no where near the 535d? as for the 2010 version i think you will find there both £44k OTR as new? jag is not faster its a tad slower

but hardly anything in it and think theres about 6mpg between them

dojj · 12-03-2010, 05:53 AM

what do you want to use it for though?

and what budget?

if it's for pimping then the audi q7v12d is about £90k at one end of the scale whereas you could possibly pick up a mondeo sttdci for around £6k

the beemers got 3 different engines as far as i'm aware, the older 2.9, the newer 3.0 and then the twin turbo'd 3.0

but if you are doing motorway miles and just want economy then the little audi lumps are cracking, i've seen 83 mpg out of one on a run

fiestamad · 12-03-2010, 07:42 AM

mondeo st deisels have a nice grunt to them and are quick aswell just remap it to 300lb of torque and 200 bhp

steanlol · 12-03-2010, 07:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Porkie

BMW.... any of them!

bigger the better

Audi V12 is a monster as well... the one in the big Q7...

oh and this!

Now that would be an awesome motor for work lol

On a serious note it all depends what you got to spend !!

nick-21 · 12-03-2010, 09:51 AM

Surely the first question should be what are you looking to spend!? 8k? 2k 40k ???

I'm really tempted by a leon cupra tdi.

alan12112 · 12-03-2010, 10:17 AM

as above budget is a big factor here - what are you looking to spend?

I had around 6.5k so went for the mondeo st tdci - great car/engine combo

Plus it could be for sale if your looking???

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Kirbycossie I'm Finding My Feet Here Now Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Welwyn garden city Posts: 139 Rep Power: 6	i own 530d and its superb although for performance i drove an audi a8 4.2 tdi quattro and was blown away by how fast that diesel car could hustle.

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It's Czech Mate ............ Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: West Mids Posts: 10,355 Rep Power: 19	In fact i'd say the jag diesel in the xf is rated as best in class from what i've read, and this seems to back it up http://www.jaguar-enthusiasts.org.uk/aj-v6d-gen3.html __________________ Just for the 'tards who leave tags the text below is a piece of information, NOT what I drive 1994 Suzuki Swift JDM Suzuka Edition 1.3L 185bhp 142.3 bhp per litre natrually aspirated. The highest specific power output of any production car 4 stroke reciprocating piston engine ( including Vtec kicked in Yo! cars )

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