Ford Racing Super Duty T5 Box?
07-01-2005, 01:51 PM
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Ford Racing Super Duty T5 Box?
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330ft lbs 
Same ratios as a Cossie, but with a Mustang input shaft and mainshaft, so you'd have to change clutch plate and prop-yoke.
Same ratios as a Cossie, but with a Mustang input shaft and mainshaft, so you'd have to change clutch plate and prop-yoke.
07-01-2005, 02:57 PM
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The point I was making was the Cosworth T5 and this super wotsit thingy T5 are the same rating.
The super thingy doodar T5 IS an upgrade however on a Mustang, which normally runs a NWC box (non world class). The Cosworth T5 is a world class transmission.
Hope that makes sense
The super thingy doodar T5 IS an upgrade however on a Mustang, which normally runs a NWC box (non world class). The Cosworth T5 is a world class transmission.
Hope that makes sense
07-01-2005, 03:19 PM
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Just found some quotes on the above box...
no it will not last. dont waste any coin on that, save towards a tremec or a T56
you will grenade that bitch in no time flat and will be a serious kickin yourself in the ass waste of money. I did not powershift mine, the case will flex under the extreme load of all that torque and the gears will seperate in the middle of 3rd gear and then they will comence to eating themselves
i can hear my 3rd gear whine over the turbo sound 
I'd floor it in 3rd gear, and it would break (3 times it happened until i got a tremec) now i try with the tko and it wont break.
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The point I was making was the Cosworth T5 and this super wotsit thingy T5 are the same rating.
The super thingy doodar T5 IS an upgrade however on a Mustang, which normally runs a NWC box (non world class). The Cosworth T5 is a world class transmission.
Hope that makes sense
The super thingy doodar T5 IS an upgrade however on a Mustang, which normally runs a NWC box (non world class). The Cosworth T5 is a world class transmission.
Hope that makes sense
07-01-2005, 04:11 PM
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[quote]I'd floor it in 3rd gear, and it would break (3 times it happened until i got a tremec) now i try with the tko and it wont break.[/quote
The TKO is bomb proof taking numerous full bore launches & mad 3rd gear stuff with over 600ft/lb in my application. Been in the car over 4years now. BUY IT ,FORGET IT.
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The TKO is bomb proof taking numerous full bore launches & mad 3rd gear stuff with over 600ft/lb in my application. Been in the car over 4years now. BUY IT ,FORGET IT.
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08-01-2005, 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by pugo
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is yours 6 speed or 5?????
Pugo
is yours 6 speed or 5?????
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think how fast it would be with closer ratios.
08-01-2005, 04:56 PM
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okI thought tremec did a 6 speeder and thought that was what it was!! perhaps its the t56 thingy instead.....now where's that g/box bernie when you need him
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08-01-2005, 08:17 PM
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okI thought tremec did a 6 speeder and thought that was what it was!! perhaps its the t56 thingy instead.....now where's that g/box bernie when you need him
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The TKO is just perfect for my car & I have it in preference to the T56.
The 6th gear ratio was way to high for the road & if I changed the Diff ratio to compensate would always be between gears. I prefer a Long 3rd & 4th gear for the 60-150 road stuff. Which takes only 9.21s & 1 gear change, devastating on the road.
. If it was a track car I may have made a different choice.
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the new tkos are now rated at 600 blft
£2500 in the car fitted with zoo prop and clutch hyrdo conv is £2750
£2500 in the car fitted with zoo prop and clutch hyrdo conv is £2750
mmmmmmmmmmm
that sounds like next winters upgrade to me
08-01-2005, 08:35 PM
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the new tkos are now rated at 600 blft
£2500 in the car fitted with zoo prop and clutch hyrdo conv is £2750
£2500 in the car fitted with zoo prop and clutch hyrdo conv is £2750
When I bought my box 5 years ago it was £1300+ & then I paid £750 for a road/race gear kit. The TKO NOW has that as Standard.
.ps. By the way TKO is American for Total Knock Out. i kid you not.
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08-01-2005, 11:51 PM
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Iv got the catalog infront of me, and im just quoting directly from it word 4 word, and yes urd need a bellhousing modified and uther bits to like a hydrolic release bearing £85 from summit. im just pointing out if u look
arround u can pick up some good deals.
arround u can pick up some good deals.
09-01-2005, 12:09 AM
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http://www.ttcautomotive.com/English/products/TKO.asp
tiny no worrys you must be lookin at diffent mag or sumut i sell these gearboxes and do the full convertoins
hydro clutch nose £186
modded fixing plate £86
modded bell housing £150 exchange
modded input shaft £200
new clutch plate £160 or £220 for twin plate
vibrtecnc rear mount and bracket mods £120
gearbox £1400
zoo prop brand new complete £300
add it all up
tiny no worrys you must be lookin at diffent mag or sumut i sell these gearboxes and do the full convertoins
hydro clutch nose £186
modded fixing plate £86
modded bell housing £150 exchange
modded input shaft £200
new clutch plate £160 or £220 for twin plate
vibrtecnc rear mount and bracket mods £120
gearbox £1400
zoo prop brand new complete £300
add it all up
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I never said your prices were dear ? I was just posting up the prices in a
catalog, 4 the boxes on there own, and yes its not just the price of the box
its all the other bits that all add up, Iv been down that road myself ,and when you add it all up, of whats involved ur price seems quite reasonable,
especialy for a drive in drive out conversion. mine cost me alot more, but
with anything thats a one of job, its very raley as easy to do in practice as
it is in your head, or as cheap.
catalog, 4 the boxes on there own, and yes its not just the price of the box
its all the other bits that all add up, Iv been down that road myself ,and when you add it all up, of whats involved ur price seems quite reasonable,
especialy for a drive in drive out conversion. mine cost me alot more, but
with anything thats a one of job, its very raley as easy to do in practice as
it is in your head, or as cheap.
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U miss understand i agree with u the ones u use are rated at 600/814 im
just stating the ones in the real steel catalog tremec tko tcet 1377 are only
rated 460+ ft lbs , good link by the way.
just stating the ones in the real steel catalog tremec tko tcet 1377 are only
rated 460+ ft lbs , good link by the way.
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The only 5speed gearbox i would consider getting for 500+ lbft is a TKO600
Real Steel sell the TKO600 and for £40 (goldcard membership open to anyone) you get 10% off list price
BUT unless you want to spend alot of time and hassle on first finding all the necessary parts and then getting one to fit then Brom must be the one to use.
Real Steels T56 (GM) has the wrong 5th gear ratio listed in their latest catalogue from memory
Its 5th and 6th overdrive gears (coupled with a 2.98:1 gear set) are as Rod said too high. Ideal for a cruising gear but not as a close ratio 6speeder.
You can now get much closer ratio T56's, 0.90:1 5th & 0.79:1 6th, no excuse now Rod 210mph? and no need to rev to 8000 
Bernie,
Tremec rate the standard cosworth T5 at 265 lbft and their latest at 330. The later one seems to withstand alot more torque from US customers with V8 dragstrip cars than in cosworths, apart from the input and output shaft diameters is there ANY difference in the parts used between these gearboxes to make a difference to their rating?
From the above quotes by US customers, it seems pretty pointless why they compare a T5 with a T56, is it not like stating the obvious
Real Steel sell the TKO600 and for £40 (goldcard membership open to anyone) you get 10% off list price
BUT unless you want to spend alot of time and hassle on first finding all the necessary parts and then getting one to fit then Brom must be the one to use.
Real Steels T56 (GM) has the wrong 5th gear ratio listed in their latest catalogue from memory
Its 5th and 6th overdrive gears (coupled with a 2.98:1 gear set) are as Rod said too high. Ideal for a cruising gear but not as a close ratio 6speeder.
You can now get much closer ratio T56's, 0.90:1 5th & 0.79:1 6th, no excuse now Rod
210mph? and no need to rev to 8000 Bernie,
Tremec rate the standard cosworth T5 at 265 lbft and their latest at 330. The later one seems to withstand alot more torque from US customers with V8 dragstrip cars than in cosworths, apart from the input and output shaft diameters is there ANY difference in the parts used between these gearboxes to make a difference to their rating?
From the above quotes by US customers, it seems pretty pointless why they compare a T5 with a T56, is it not like stating the obvious
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