Ideas for an M-Tech project Ford

M-Tech Automotive · 31-01-2010, 07:37 PM

Anyone any thoughts?

I was toying with the idea of a twin engined Mk2 Fezzy...

One in the front, one in the back, both throwing about 300bhp each...

The crazier the idea the better!!

Matt

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M-Tech Automotive · 31-01-2010, 07:37 PM

Oh, it would have to look really standard from the outside for comedy aspects lol

rsfido_1989 · 31-01-2010, 07:40 PM

you can have my st170 I want to have it back on the weekends tho

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mrjenrst · 31-01-2010, 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by M-Tech Automotive

One in the front, one in the back, both throwing about 300bhp each...

Bad idea imo. Twin engine is max power chavtastic.

Lambchop · 31-01-2010, 07:44 PM

Saw a post recently about twin engiens and chip said they were not so good as its really 2x 2wd and not 4wd. hard to get it to handle too maybe.

miller3 · 31-01-2010, 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrjenrst

Bad idea imo. Twin engine is max power chavtastic.

dito,

how about a 4x4 cos fez? just build something you can use and abuse round a few tracks and just enjoy

M-Tech Automotive · 31-01-2010, 07:47 PM

Yeh it was more of a 'something mad' idea.

I do prefer RWD over FWD however, maybe mid engined? Or drop scooby running gear under a fezzy chassis?

hmm....

mrjenrst · 31-01-2010, 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lambchop

Saw a post recently about twin engiens and chip said they were not so good as its really 2x 2wd and not 4wd. hard to get it to handle too maybe.

I'd imagine it been virtually impossible to get each engine running in perfect sync.

M-Tech Automotive · 31-01-2010, 07:48 PM

Ah I can tie two V4 ECUs together over can and make it so whicever is leading retards timing to match. It could be done but would need me to hash some software together...

Either that or somesort of electronic TB.... TANGENT! lol

kev 3dr · 31-01-2010, 07:49 PM

New shape festa or ka with turbo duratec & rwd or 4x4

mrjenrst · 31-01-2010, 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by M-Tech Automotive

It could be done but would need me to hash some software together...

make it sound easy

i'd be looking outside the box mk3 fiesta rwd rear engine focus rs lump? Fuck knows really

M-Tech Automotive · 31-01-2010, 07:56 PM

hmm KA Duratec turbo in the back.... that sounds tempting!

ideally wanted to go for a real oldschool rusty beaten nail of a Mk2, silly power but standard interior, tartan blanket on the back seat, trilby hat in the rear window, the works... that would be interesting! running on 13" steels as well of course lol

Matt

ECU Monitor Enthusiast · 31-01-2010, 08:00 PM

YB mid engined KA

GavStyli · 31-01-2010, 08:05 PM

id stick to a newer shape of car than an old mk2 fiesta

ZTSI · 31-01-2010, 08:08 PM

at a guess u want the engine in the back! what about a cossie YB in back of a mk2 not sure of room but could have a custom short drive prop, so would be more mid engine, if u could get the engine close to front seats but you may want ear defenders on tho!

MikeR · 31-01-2010, 08:12 PM

I would say something that can adeqately demonstrate your companys abilities so maybe a modern engine that people have not started to play with to much and a new shape Fiesta or something,

Mike

rst in breaking · 31-01-2010, 08:13 PM

cossied 105e

MikeR · 31-01-2010, 08:20 PM

What work does your company undertake Matt? is it chassis work, cages, mapping or just general tuning?

Mike

RichieST · 31-01-2010, 08:23 PM

mk6 fiesta, 2.3 supercharged duratec!

Wardy ZS · 31-01-2010, 08:30 PM

Mk5 Fiesta?

Maybe with a stroked 2.3 Duratec?

M-Tech Automotive · 31-01-2010, 08:31 PM

lol this is getting silly, all this talk of YBs and being in the middle of things lol! (actually exactly the sort of things I was thinking!)

Mike, we mainly specialise in standalone engine management installation and mapping, but we also do roll cage instalaltion, seam welding, and general tuning on performance vehicles. We look after quite a few cars/teams that compete in hill climbs, sprints and series such as the castle combe saloon car champs. Also find outselves building supercharged zetecs for kit cars as well as finishing kit car builds for IVAs and so forth.

I think project wise, we need 2 things: A chosen chassis/shell, and a chosen powerplant...

Powerplant, one of my fav options is a circa 400bhp Supercharged (rotrex) Zetec, we've built a couple and they pull like trains. Quite good in terms of power delivery as well so maybe try something FWD, then move it to the back at a later date? Or.... we have a fibreglass firm just around from us, pehaps a fibreglass focus body over a spaceframed 500+bhp 4WD setup?

The aim really would be using the car for hill-climb and sprints, so being light is a plus chassis wise...

Matt

rst in breaking · 31-01-2010, 08:36 PM

i guess if you want it light start with something light then the space framing and fibreglass panels will just make it lighter still, old skool lol, an old car thrashen modern always gets looks which is good advertisment

SiST · 31-01-2010, 08:42 PM

Turbo'ed duratec in a RWD MK7 fiesta S2000 replica - would be amazing!

M-Tech Automotive · 31-01-2010, 08:43 PM

Yeah that was my thoughts hence the Mk2 (my first car!).... you;re all gunna laugh at this but when I was 17 (several years ago now, and you'll all be glad to know that we don't do bodywork at M-Tech!) I discovered something called a Panuique bodykit and P45 filler..... I did this in my garage with rattle cans. It was a nail of a 1.1, but I thought it was the NUTZ!! Its long gone now sold it to a chap from notts for £600 lol!! I can hear the LOLs from here!!

I really shoudnt of posted them but hell, we've all done it, right?

lol

fordsportjay · 31-01-2010, 08:53 PM

buy my solid dark green standard mk2 1600 sport escort. make it look back to standard and fit something special mechanically.

M-Tech Automotive · 31-01-2010, 08:54 PM

gotta be a small hatch for this lil project I think

cheers for the offer though!!

MikeR · 31-01-2010, 09:01 PM

So something modern with a modern power plant you make the chassis and cage and have some fibre glass panels put over, develope the engine say a modern engine from the current Ford range not something as old a Zetec say a modern 5 cylinder engine like Austen W is playing with and make a name for yourself with it

It is easy to be a sheep, make something people shout about if it is a company demo, show the best you can do and be groundbreaking

Mike

dug112y · 31-01-2010, 09:55 PM

supercharged/turbo charged... focus st engine / 4wd (volvo sourced) in a mk2 focus fibreglass shell dropped over a space frame or heavily caged shell....this was gonna be my next project but possible house move and a new hobby on way i can see it happening now so you can have the idea matt

Pin_cushion · 31-01-2010, 10:28 PM

Shame you want hatch.
Was gonna say...

One of these...

http://www.oldfordautos.co.uk/

Followed with four of these...

http://www.holeshot-racing.co.uk/upl...ide%20view.JPG

One for each wheel...

You said you wanted mental.

smitsturbo · 01-02-2010, 01:39 AM

tubed chassis fiesta with a 600+ bhp stroker duratec turbo (front or rear mounted) but chassis to do what its built for

xr4x4rs · 01-02-2010, 02:30 AM

escort mk4 or 3 2 drestate with skyline gtr running gear

2.6 twin turbo 4wd

CoupeUK · 01-02-2010, 08:46 AM

Mid engined VAG20vT Mk4 Escort

Twellsie · 01-02-2010, 08:54 AM

mid engined rwd transit connect

Lloyd · 01-02-2010, 09:14 AM

new fiesta.600bhp zetec/duratec.6 speed sequential gearbox.light weight 4x4 drivechain.

wirralphil · 01-02-2010, 09:15 AM

Mk6 Fiesta Van, standard out side, space framed rear with Twin R1 Engines in the rear run by 2 of your V4 ECU's with Fly By Wire for the throttle.

Or another Mk6 Fiesta with a Compound Charged Duratec in a space framed rear chassis. Again Std outside.

project rs · 01-02-2010, 09:42 AM

seeing as you have a soft spot for the mk2 fez stick with that and depending on how hard you want to make it and how many spare hours you can devote to it stick a zetec turbo/supergharger in the back run it on a foci rs box so easier just to run hydrolic clutch and cable select then you'll have rwd and the weight will transfer over wheels for sprints or quarter stuff, if you've got a bit more time try a new st engine but running 400@wheels in rear too either would be fun

Chip · 01-02-2010, 09:45 AM

Dare to be different, rear engined FWD sierra

Chip · 01-02-2010, 09:46 AM

On a more serious note....

ST185 Celica + Mk2 fiesta = awesome 4wd fiesta without being mega money

andybrst · 01-02-2010, 10:00 AM

PMD

clarke5700 · 01-02-2010, 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by M-Tech Automotive

Anyone any thoughts?

I was toying with the idea of a twin engined Mk2 Fezzy...

One in the front, one in the back, both throwing about 300bhp each...

The crazier the idea the better!!

Matt

defantly a mk2 fez mate

baige one of course

31-01-2010, 07:44 PM	#5
Lambchop PF Idiot Sniper Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (1) Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Scotchland Posts: 24,083 Rep Power: 34	Saw a post recently about twin engiens and chip said they were not so good as its really 2x 2wd and not 4wd. hard to get it to handle too maybe. __________________ Birds shouldn't be moderators ; )

31-01-2010, 07:49 PM	#10
kev 3dr Advanced PassionFord User Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (1) Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: widnes Posts: 1,828 Rep Power: 7	New shape festa or ka with turbo duratec & rwd or 4x4 __________________ Clito 172 track toy another project to come soon.......... www.mattlewismotorsport.co.uk www.impactsignsanddesigns.co.uk

31-01-2010, 08:05 PM	#14
GavStyli Nos_Cheat! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: May 2003 Location: Palmers Greek Posts: 1,327 Rep Power: 10	id stick to a newer shape of car than an old mk2 fiesta __________________ www.GRSMotorsport Vulcan R w@nk

31-01-2010, 08:12 PM	#16
MikeR PassionFord Post Whore!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: In a house Posts: 6,375 Rep Power: 15	I would say something that can adeqately demonstrate your companys abilities so maybe a modern engine that people have not started to play with to much and a new shape Fiesta or something, Mike __________________ Anybody selling 1 1/18 scale Mini Champ, Auto Art, UT or SunStar models in absolute mint condition please let me know what and how much, after Fords or Rally Cars

31-01-2010, 08:13 PM	#17
rst in breaking PassionFord Post Whore!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (2) Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: chingford, london Posts: 7,822 Rep Power: 14	cossied 105e __________________ BREAKING MY ZETEC TURBO ESCORT!!! MK1 Escort wanted!!!

31-01-2010, 07:37 PM	#2
M-Tech Automotive M-Techtastic! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Wiltshire Posts: 579 Rep Power: 0	Oh, it would have to look really standard from the outside for comedy aspects lol

31-01-2010, 07:40 PM	#3
rsfido_1989 Too many posts.. I need a life!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: May 2004 Location: baldock Posts: 929 Rep Power: 8	you can have my st170 I want to have it back on the weekends tho . . .

31-01-2010, 07:47 PM	#7
M-Tech Automotive M-Techtastic! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Wiltshire Posts: 579 Rep Power: 0	Yeh it was more of a 'something mad' idea. I do prefer RWD over FWD however, maybe mid engined? Or drop scooby running gear under a fezzy chassis? hmm....

31-01-2010, 07:48 PM	#9
M-Tech Automotive M-Techtastic! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Wiltshire Posts: 579 Rep Power: 0	Ah I can tie two V4 ECUs together over can and make it so whicever is leading retards timing to match. It could be done but would need me to hash some software together... Either that or somesort of electronic TB.... TANGENT! lol

31-01-2010, 07:56 PM	#12
M-Tech Automotive M-Techtastic! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Wiltshire Posts: 579 Rep Power: 0	hmm KA Duratec turbo in the back.... that sounds tempting! ideally wanted to go for a real oldschool rusty beaten nail of a Mk2, silly power but standard interior, tartan blanket on the back seat, trilby hat in the rear window, the works... that would be interesting! running on 13" steels as well of course lol Matt

31-01-2010, 08:00 PM	#13
ECU Monitor Enthusiast BANNED BANNED Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (1) Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Wiltshire Posts: 12,501 Rep Power: 0	YB mid engined KA

31-01-2010, 08:08 PM	#15
ZTSI Regular Contributor 1991 FORD Fiesta Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: hemel hempstead Posts: 232 Rep Power: 5	at a guess u want the engine in the back! what about a cossie YB in back of a mk2 not sure of room but could have a custom short drive prop, so would be more mid engine, if u could get the engine close to front seats but you may want ear defenders on tho!

31-01-2010, 08:20 PM	#18
MikeR PassionFord Post Whore!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: In a house Posts: 6,375 Rep Power: 15	What work does your company undertake Matt? is it chassis work, cages, mapping or just general tuning? Mike __________________ Anybody selling 1 1/18 scale Mini Champ, Auto Art, UT or SunStar models in absolute mint condition please let me know what and how much, after Fords or Rally Cars

31-01-2010, 08:23 PM	#19
RichieST 10K+ Poster!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (2) Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Wiltshire Posts: 12,465 Rep Power: 20	mk6 fiesta, 2.3 supercharged duratec! __________________

31-01-2010, 08:30 PM	#20
Wardy ZS Part of the Furniture 2000 Ford Fiesta Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Worksop Posts: 197 Rep Power: 4	Mk5 Fiesta? Maybe with a stroked 2.3 Duratec?

31-01-2010, 08:31 PM	#21
M-Tech Automotive M-Techtastic! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Wiltshire Posts: 579 Rep Power: 0	lol this is getting silly, all this talk of YBs and being in the middle of things lol! (actually exactly the sort of things I was thinking!) Mike, we mainly specialise in standalone engine management installation and mapping, but we also do roll cage instalaltion, seam welding, and general tuning on performance vehicles. We look after quite a few cars/teams that compete in hill climbs, sprints and series such as the castle combe saloon car champs. Also find outselves building supercharged zetecs for kit cars as well as finishing kit car builds for IVAs and so forth. I think project wise, we need 2 things: A chosen chassis/shell, and a chosen powerplant... Powerplant, one of my fav options is a circa 400bhp Supercharged (rotrex) Zetec, we've built a couple and they pull like trains. Quite good in terms of power delivery as well so maybe try something FWD, then move it to the back at a later date? Or.... we have a fibreglass firm just around from us, pehaps a fibreglass focus body over a spaceframed 500+bhp 4WD setup? The aim really would be using the car for hill-climb and sprints, so being light is a plus chassis wise... Matt

31-01-2010, 08:36 PM	#22
rst in breaking PassionFord Post Whore!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (2) Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: chingford, london Posts: 7,822 Rep Power: 14	i guess if you want it light start with something light then the space framing and fibreglass panels will just make it lighter still, old skool lol, an old car thrashen modern always gets looks which is good advertisment __________________ BREAKING MY ZETEC TURBO ESCORT!!! MK1 Escort wanted!!!

31-01-2010, 08:42 PM	#23
SiST Too many posts.. I need a life!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (1) Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Blackpool Posts: 569 Rep Power: 4	Turbo'ed duratec in a RWD MK7 fiesta S2000 replica - would be amazing!

31-01-2010, 08:43 PM	#24
M-Tech Automotive M-Techtastic! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Wiltshire Posts: 579 Rep Power: 0	Yeah that was my thoughts hence the Mk2 (my first car!).... you;re all gunna laugh at this but when I was 17 (several years ago now, and you'll all be glad to know that we don't do bodywork at M-Tech!) I discovered something called a Panuique bodykit and P45 filler..... I did this in my garage with rattle cans. It was a nail of a 1.1, but I thought it was the NUTZ!! Its long gone now sold it to a chap from notts for £600 lol!! I can hear the LOLs from here!! I really shoudnt of posted them but hell, we've all done it, right? lol

31-01-2010, 08:53 PM	#25
fordsportjay PassionFord Post Whore!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (6) Join Date: May 2004 Location: warrington Posts: 8,534 Rep Power: 16	buy my solid dark green standard mk2 1600 sport escort. make it look back to standard and fit something special mechanically.

31-01-2010, 08:54 PM	#26
M-Tech Automotive M-Techtastic! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Wiltshire Posts: 579 Rep Power: 0	gotta be a small hatch for this lil project I think cheers for the offer though!!

31-01-2010, 09:01 PM	#27
MikeR PassionFord Post Whore!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: In a house Posts: 6,375 Rep Power: 15	So something modern with a modern power plant you make the chassis and cage and have some fibre glass panels put over, develope the engine say a modern engine from the current Ford range not something as old a Zetec say a modern 5 cylinder engine like Austen W is playing with and make a name for yourself with it It is easy to be a sheep, make something people shout about if it is a company demo, show the best you can do and be groundbreaking Mike __________________ Anybody selling 1 1/18 scale Mini Champ, Auto Art, UT or SunStar models in absolute mint condition please let me know what and how much, after Fords or Rally Cars

31-01-2010, 09:55 PM	#28
dug112y passionford pro Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (1) Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Lanarkshire,Scotland Posts: 1,394 Rep Power: 5	supercharged/turbo charged... focus st engine / 4wd (volvo sourced) in a mk2 focus fibreglass shell dropped over a space frame or heavily caged shell....this was gonna be my next project but possible house move and a new hobby on way i can see it happening now so you can have the idea matt __________________ Never argue with an idiot,they bring you down to their level and beat you with experience. TRACK FIESTA http://passionford.com/forum/restora...-new-pics.html

31-01-2010, 10:28 PM	#29
Pin_cushion Wahay!! I've lost my Virginity!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Lancashire Posts: 78 Rep Power: 3	Shame you want hatch. Was gonna say... One of these... http://www.oldfordautos.co.uk/ Followed with four of these... http://www.holeshot-racing.co.uk/upl...ide%20view.JPG One for each wheel... You said you wanted mental.

01-02-2010, 01:39 AM	#30
smitsturbo PassionFord Post Whore!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: aberdeenshire Posts: 7,246 Rep Power: 14	tubed chassis fiesta with a 600+ bhp stroker duratec turbo (front or rear mounted) but chassis to do what its built for __________________ www.sitechracing.co.uk

01-02-2010, 02:30 AM	#31
xr4x4rs 10K+ Poster!! 1992 ford escort cosworth Trader Score: (5) Join Date: May 2004 Location: coventry Posts: 10,014 Rep Power: 18	escort mk4 or 3 2 drestate with skyline gtr running gear 2.6 twin turbo 4wd __________________

01-02-2010, 08:46 AM	#32
CoupeUK I've found that life I needed.. It's HERE!! 1995 Land Rover Discovery Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Hertfordshire Posts: 1,104 Rep Power: 8	Mid engined VAG20vT Mk4 Escort

01-02-2010, 08:54 AM	#33
Twellsie PassionFord Post Whore!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (1) Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Nuneaton Posts: 7,197 Rep Power: 14	mid engined rwd transit connect __________________

01-02-2010, 09:14 AM	#34
Lloyd escort mk4 cossy 4x4 Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: May 2004 Location: coventry Posts: 4,633 Rep Power: 12	new fiesta.600bhp zetec/duratec.6 speed sequential gearbox.light weight 4x4 drivechain. __________________

01-02-2010, 09:15 AM	#35
wirralphil PassionFord Post Whore!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Wirral Posts: 6,694 Rep Power: 12	Mk6 Fiesta Van, standard out side, space framed rear with Twin R1 Engines in the rear run by 2 of your V4 ECU's with Fly By Wire for the throttle. Or another Mk6 Fiesta with a Compound Charged Duratec in a space framed rear chassis. Again Std outside.

01-02-2010, 09:42 AM	#36
project rs I've found that life I needed.. It's HERE!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: wirral Posts: 1,358 Rep Power: 7	seeing as you have a soft spot for the mk2 fez stick with that and depending on how hard you want to make it and how many spare hours you can devote to it stick a zetec turbo/supergharger in the back run it on a foci rs box so easier just to run hydrolic clutch and cable select then you'll have rwd and the weight will transfer over wheels for sprints or quarter stuff, if you've got a bit more time try a new st engine but running 400@wheels in rear too either would be fun __________________

01-02-2010, 09:45 AM	#37
Chip * Sierra RS Custard * Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (3) Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 44,611 Rep Power: 51	Dare to be different, rear engined FWD sierra __________________ Sometimes its more fun not to care if things make sense, and just do them anyway! Vauxhall Nova, Mid Engined, RWD, 457bhp, Autronic SM4, GT35R, Quaiffe ATB Diff 2.0 16v - DIY Specced, DIY Built, DIY Mapped, DIY Abused www.VauxSport.com

01-02-2010, 09:46 AM	#38
Chip * Sierra RS Custard * Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (3) Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 44,611 Rep Power: 51	On a more serious note.... ST185 Celica + Mk2 fiesta = awesome 4wd fiesta without being mega money __________________ Sometimes its more fun not to care if things make sense, and just do them anyway! Vauxhall Nova, Mid Engined, RWD, 457bhp, Autronic SM4, GT35R, Quaiffe ATB Diff 2.0 16v - DIY Specced, DIY Built, DIY Mapped, DIY Abused www.VauxSport.com

01-02-2010, 10:00 AM	#39
andybrst Regular Contributor Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: May 2009 Location: middlestown/wakefield Posts: 209 Rep Power: 3	PMD

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