New Ford Ka

[daviddunlop83]

Basically my mum got a new ford Ka last week but it was already built and as standard from factory they put the repair kit in instead of the spare wheel unless specified which is only extra £30 So i wanted her to have the proper wheel as she is likely to hit kurbs and wreck the wheel so a repair kit isnt any use. So cause the car was already in england, the dealer said they would sort out the spare wheel etc. My question is, should it have came with a normal 14" spare wheel or a mini space saver 14" one? Reason i ask is the dealer has just left the jack handle and towing eye lying in the wheel well and the jack in the boot and the wheel isnt even secured as the screw/clamp isnt long enough for it I think they might have robbed a spare 14" steel rim spare from a fiesta as it would be cheaper than ordering the proper one and the storage box etc. I dunno why they couldnt ring the factory and get it from there or do some deal with ford instead of complaining about having to order it through parts, cause otherwise could have just waited and ordered the car from factory with it fitted as she was in no rush for the car.

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[Glenn.]

sounds dodgey to me. I would make sure vid wheels fits cause im sure its a fiat stud pattern which is different from fords. Cause the ford ka is just a fiat 500.

[B19 JUB]

im almost sure it should be a 14 inch spacesaver wheel as we had this problem last week.a customer bought a new ka and wanted a spare wheel so sales at another branch ordered a standard 14 inch wheel which sat very proud of the boot floor and was rattling around.

im sure it should be a spacesaver wheel

[daviddunlop83]

Yeah i think so too, i have just went out and checked and its seems they have ordered a 14" steel wheel and as you say the boot carpet etc doesnt fit

They have done thing probably because of the price for the space saver and the tire but thats not my problem, as i said tho my mum would have waited for a new car from factory if he said it had to come from factory so its down to sales to get the right parts ordered. They basically threw the stuff into the boot,

There isnt even a wheel brace FFS so whats hse suppose to do if she gets a puncture.

Most people wouldnt have bothered checking and just drove on until they needed it and then it would be a hassle

Salesman today tried to tell me you cant get a storage compartment for it. I said whats your email address and sent him this:-

[B19 JUB]

dont suppose u got ecat on a program u can email me have ya buddy?

[daviddunlop83]

Originally Posted by B19 JUB

dont suppose u got ecat on a program u can email me have ya buddy?

I didnt get that picture, it was from trevor at ford parts, he just took the screen shot for me.

I think you need login etc for ecat

[Ginge !]

you need a login for ecat AND a seperate licence for the ISO viewer too so you can get the images up aswell

ive got both pmsl

[Iain Mac]

As standard the Ka comes with the Tyre Mobility Kit (an aerosol of tyre sealant to you and me) but a mini spare wheel is available as a factory option at £30.65.

Just because a part is available from the factory it doesn't necessarily mean that it is available as a dealer-fit option in a particular country or anywhere at all for that matter. For example, cars that are to get a spare wheel might get a bracket to bolt to, while other cars don't (I don't know if that's the case here, it's only an example)

If your mum took the car as specced from the factory and got the standard spec, I don't think it is fair to moan about the dealer or especially Ford not being able to supply the bits from stock.

If the dealer undertook to supply the bits and now can't, that is a different story

[Dolphin Boy]

Hi. I too am after a spare for a new KA. Fords got me a wheel, I have no idea if it was a regualr sized one or not, I never picked it up. Had to have a refund. The trouble was, NOONE can get a tyre. Not Ford, Kwikfit, or any independent retailer. Ford advised that the tyre size was 135/80R14 - Fair enough, made by Pirelli. There are none in the country, with no date for fresh stock. If anyone's got any ideas on what'll fit, i'll be grateful.

Tks.

[daviddunlop83]

Originally Posted by Iain Mac

As standard the Ka comes with the Tyre Mobility Kit (an aerosol of tyre sealant to you and me) but a mini spare wheel is available as a factory option at £30.65.

Just because a part is available from the factory it doesn't necessarily mean that it is available as a dealer-fit option in a particular country or anywhere at all for that matter. For example, cars that are to get a spare wheel might get a bracket to bolt to, while other cars don't (I don't know if that's the case here, it's only an example)

If your mum took the car as specced from the factory and got the standard spec, I don't think it is fair to moan about the dealer or especially Ford not being able to supply the bits from stock.

If the dealer undertook to supply the bits and now can't, that is a different story

When i did the deal with him i was clear that i wanted the proper spare wheel as i knew from website it was £30. I said i know the car is already built and in england but my mum was in no rush and if it was a major problem i would wait for a new one from factory.

The salesman said no no ill get it all sorted when we get the car overe here in N.Ireland so the deal was done. So the car came with wrong wheel etc. So i got the part numbers etc cause to be fair it wasnt the salesmans fault, the parts guy had told him the wrong information.

When i showed him the correct part numbers etc he said no problem ill get it all ordered for you and it is all due in on monday

I know what you mean tho if you take a standard spec car and then complain about its not fair. But the deal was fully agreeded with the 14" mini spare wheel.

[daviddunlop83]

Originally Posted by Dolphin Boy

Hi. I too am after a spare for a new KA. Fords got me a wheel, I have no idea if it was a regualr sized one or not, I never picked it up. Had to have a refund. The trouble was, NOONE can get a tyre. Not Ford, Kwikfit, or any independent retailer. Ford advised that the tyre size was 135/80R14 - Fair enough, made by Pirelli. There are none in the country, with no date for fresh stock. If anyone's got any ideas on what'll fit, i'll be grateful.

Tks.

Hello, as i said above, the dealer has ordered the mini wheel which you are correct the tire size is 135/80R14 and as far as he told me the wheel was in but they were waiting on the storage tray thing.

So if i get the wheel etc on monday i will ask him where they got the tire from for you and let you know.

If you want the tray etc here is some part numbers if they are any use

New Ka-Mini Spare Wheel
Part Number: 1646930
Retail Price: £42.75
You Pay: £34.20

New Ka-Stowage Box
Part Number: 1563806
Retail Price: £23.41
You Pay: £21.07

New Ka-Wheel Brace
Part Number: 1563348
Retail Price: £5.49
You Pay: £4.94

New Ka-Screw Driver
Part Number: 1583035
Retail Price: £3.66
You Pay: £3.29

[Iain Mac]

Don't forget a jack...

[daviddunlop83]

Yeah nit everything is listed there. Jack and handle or towing eye or the clamp to hold it all down

I only got part numbers for stuff that was missing from my mums car

[daviddunlop83]

Finally got it sorted. The wheel thing still has the fiat sticker on it too

They were able to get the tire ok so they must be producing them again

[Dolphin Boy]

Finally, some success! I went to the breakers yard, and looked at space saver spares. The first one I chose (it had an unused tyre) fitted! The wheel bolt holes were 7cm apart, and the holes for the locating pins were exact. It was labelled as coming from a Fiat Brava. I tested the fit & it was perfect. Cost £23.50 Inc VAT!

Just as an aside, What is the screw driver included for? seems to have a flat blade end & a Torx end? Ta!

[daviddunlop83]

Originally Posted by Dolphin Boy

Finally, some success! I went to the breakers yard, and looked at space saver spares. The first one I chose (it had an unused tyre) fitted! The wheel bolt holes were 7cm apart, and the holes for the locating pins were exact. It was labelled as coming from a Fiat Brava. I tested the fit & it was perfect. Cost £23.50 Inc VAT!

Just as an aside, What is the screw driver included for? seems to have a flat blade end & a Torx end? Ta!

Glad you got it sorted and didnt have to get robbed from the dealers