Quaife ATB diff?

Newts · 05-01-2005, 01:48 PM

Are these any good (for the front of an escos)?
Are they different from the quaife LSD diffs with the thickwall housing or are they the same thing?
What handling characteristics will be effected?

Cheers
Newts

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Porkie · 05-01-2005, 03:02 PM

same thing mate, you have an ATB put in a thickwall casing.

I use one, seems to turn it and go where I want it most of the time. Not very techy I know, sorry

Ask Gaybird!

here is my ATB and my Casing

cossy abuser · 05-01-2005, 03:33 PM

I had one of these in my Race car and it behaved perfectly

Newts · 05-01-2005, 03:56 PM

OK so the ATB is quaifes LSD?
Who supplies these at non demon-tweeks prices then?

Rainmanbird???

Cheers
Newts

RichardPON · 05-01-2005, 04:01 PM

Rainbird, or Bernie (CTS).

We seeing you on track at Bedford in a few weeks then mate?

Newts · 05-01-2005, 05:09 PM

Sexy metal porn pics, as always, Porkie

Aye, PON I will be at Beds RS day on the 19th, but still with std 'box, so taking it easy in third until the red mist rolls in, about half a lap after the slicks are warm

Hope to experience your rally taxi in full sideways hooligan mode, should be wicked.

Cheers
Newts

RANJ · 05-01-2005, 05:20 PM

get the cwp peened and superfinished whistut at it, bit more strength

gearboxman · 05-01-2005, 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Newts

OK so the ATB is quaifes LSD?
Who supplies these at non demon-tweeks prices then?

Rainmanbird???

Cheers
Newts

ATB £495.00
Heavy duty case £640.00
both plus VAT of course
Build labour (to your own) £85.00, plus bearings /seals /spacer +VAT
Shot peen and polish £POA

Kevin Sharp · 05-01-2005, 06:16 PM

i have a mint secondhand atb unit for sale

Newts · 06-01-2005, 09:35 AM

What is the purpose of the thickwall casing?
Sorry if thats a dumb question but I only have about 360bhp, so if the thickwall is for the big power brigade, then it may be surplus for me?
Would I need a cwp shot peen/polish with my puny power, also?

Thanks
Newts

Sticky. · 06-01-2005, 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Newts

Aye, PON I will be at Beds RS day on the 19th, but still with std 'box, so taking it easy in third until the red mist rolls in, about half a lap after the slicks are warm

Yeah, like you took it easy on that standard box at Donington

hope im getting a few more passenger laps Andy

Oh & your stuff is in the post

seveneigths · 06-01-2005, 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin Sharp

i have a mint secondhand atb unit for sale

how much do you want for the diff mate and how many miles on it if you don't mind me asking.pm me,cheers

Newts · 06-01-2005, 10:30 AM

Looks like we're after the same setup, Seveneights. PM'd Kev a while back

about the ATB so we might end up playing scissors/paper/stone for first dibs

I see my old wheels are white again

Kev YHPM

.

StickerPaul - Cheers! See you at Bedford, mate.

Still need to know

Quote:

What is the purpose of the thickwall casing?
Sorry if thats a dumb question but I only have about 360bhp, so if the thickwall is for the big power brigade, then it may be surplus for me?
Would I need a cwp shot peen/polish with my puny power, also?

Cheers
Newts

Sticky. · 06-01-2005, 10:32 AM

Andy get them flames off your avatar

There not going on

Phil · 06-01-2005, 10:33 AM

The casing can crack if a lot of stress is put through it! Especially on launches (Kev Sharp has cracked a thickwall one I believe as well!)

Kevin Sharp · 06-01-2005, 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seveneigths

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin Sharp

i have a mint secondhand atb unit for sale

how much do you want for the diff mate and how many miles on it if you don't mind me asking.pm me,cheers

i have given newts first refusal on it as he pmd me before your reply

the unit is only about 18 months old and has only done a handful of trackdays and 1/4 mile stuff. no road use so probably ony a few hundred miles i,m after £325 dlivered its as new.
i,ll let you know if newts doesnt want it

Azrael · 06-01-2005, 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin Sharp

Quote:

Originally Posted by seveneigths

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin Sharp

i have a mint secondhand atb unit for sale

how much do you want for the diff mate and how many miles on it if you don't mind me asking.pm me,cheers

i have given newts first refusal on it as he pmd me before your reply

the unit is only about 18 months old and has only done a handful of trackdays and 1/4 mile stuff. no road use so probably ony a few hundred miles i,m after £325 dlivered its as new.
i,ll let you know if newts doesnt want it

I'm after one too if both guys don't want it

Newts · 06-01-2005, 01:02 PM

So am I likely to crack a std case with 360bhp, mainly track use and a few hard launches?
Don't want the extra cost and weight of a thickwall case if I don't need it.
Any ideas?

Cheers
Newts

Azrael · 06-01-2005, 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gearboxman

ATB £495.00
Heavy duty case £640.00
both plus VAT of course
Build labour (to your own) £85.00, plus bearings /seals /spacer +VAT
Shot peen and polish £POA

Could you tell what would be the price of whole thing build WITH VAT?

What sort of many is theis shot peaning and polishing? And has it any use for rally style driven 300HP car?

Newts · 06-01-2005, 02:55 PM

Thanks for the advice, all.
Kev - cheque will be in the post tomorrow.

I'll be able to answer my own questions about quaife ATB's on my next track day

Cheers
Newts

Sticky. · 06-01-2005, 03:04 PM

Just need a quaife box now Andy

Kevin Sharp · 06-01-2005, 03:19 PM

nice to speak to you andy

seveneigths · 06-01-2005, 03:37 PM

Winner take's all

nice one andy yeah mate wheels look good but i should have took you advise mate on the colour never mind,good look on the new diff one will come up soon for me mine is cracked so i need one pretty soon.

Newts · 06-01-2005, 03:38 PM

Enquiries under way regarding a 'box, Paul...

Kev - thanks for speaking slowly

I am already fluent in Scouse, so that helped a bit. "Tha chuk is en tha poost"

4 wheel drive isn't cheap

Newts

Dunccoss · 06-01-2005, 03:58 PM

hi newits i have both on my car now and you can feel them working, evern more so when going slow and turning. i had just the front done on my car all summer and i noticed that it turned in better and felt so much more sure footed at the front.
that is why i have put one on the rear as well to match

seveneigths · 06-01-2005, 04:10 PM

thanks andy

Porkie · 06-01-2005, 04:11 PM

Think Sean Bicknell has a Thickwall and a Quaife ATB for sale.... Try Martin as well

seveneigths · 06-01-2005, 04:19 PM

thanks porkie have a look now

Porkie · 06-01-2005, 04:24 PM

You can't look mate, you will have to PM them

kjc300 · 06-01-2005, 04:25 PM

Sean's gone to Atlanta today!!!!

Newts · 06-01-2005, 04:33 PM

Cheers Dunc - what driveshafts are you using up front? Have you gone for the longer xr4x4 ones or what? Having a nice grippy front end has got me worried about stuffing another offside driveshaft

Cheers Porkie, Sean's got too much stuff for a man without a car

Newts

Porkie · 06-01-2005, 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kjc300

Sean's gone to Atlanta today!!!!

which is why I said PM and not call!!

I know you Army boys are a bit thick BUT you must realise they have the internet in USA

Martin-Hadland · 06-01-2005, 04:46 PM

yep i have a very low mileage atb in a ford thickwall casing (has 909 part number) the crown wheel and pinion are shot peened and polished and the casing has larger cover bolts and a stiffening plate in the base too. its no going to be mad cheap though

kjc300 · 06-01-2005, 04:52 PM

It's "Sarge" to you,Manning!!!!

Don't make me bring this next time!! -

and you seriously, think he's gonna answer pm's when he's spending all week in bed up to his "Ginger Perm" - so to speak!!!!!??

seveneigths · 06-01-2005, 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by martin-reyland

yep i have a very low mileage atb in a ford thickwall casing (has 909 part number) the crown wheel and pinion are shot peened and polished and the casing has larger cover bolts and a stiffening plate in the base too. its no going to be mad cheap though

What am i looking at then,how much and if i don't reply it's coz i have fainted LOL

Azrael · 06-01-2005, 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by martin-reyland

yep i have a very low mileage atb in a ford thickwall casing (has 909 part number) the crown wheel and pinion are shot peened and polished and the casing has larger cover bolts and a stiffening plate in the base too. its no going to be mad cheap though

Just wondering what "not mad cheap" is.

Porkie · 06-01-2005, 05:47 PM

If you have to ask... you can't afford it!

That would go for £0000's on ebay and I suspect it will as well!

Azrael · 06-01-2005, 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Porkie

If you have to ask... you can't afford it!

I know, any extreme stuff from Martin is probably like a Maybach - If you ask how much you cannot afford.

Martin-Hadland · 06-01-2005, 08:52 PM

its going for.................... £1500

seveneigths · 07-01-2005, 01:56 PM

sorry mate a to much for me thanks anyway

05-01-2005, 03:02 PM	#2
Porkie 20K+ Super Poster. Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (1) Join Date: May 2003 Location: Essex... and Birmingham! Posts: 21,522 Rep Power: 31	same thing mate, you have an ATB put in a thickwall casing. I use one, seems to turn it and go where I want it most of the time. Not very techy I know, sorry Ask Gaybird! here is my ATB and my Casing __________________ www.Reyland.co.uk www.Proalloy.co.uk

05-01-2005, 03:56 PM	#4
Newts Regular Contributor Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: May 2003 Location: Bed.....Ford Shire Posts: 273 Rep Power: 10	OK so the ATB is quaifes LSD? Who supplies these at non demon-tweeks prices then? Rainmanbird??? Cheers Newts __________________ POWER - SUSPENSION - BRAKES and greasy paw prints from A1 RALLYSPURT TRACKDAY ESCORT COSSY FOR SALE £12950 http://www.passionford.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=103615

05-01-2005, 05:09 PM	#6
Newts Regular Contributor Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: May 2003 Location: Bed.....Ford Shire Posts: 273 Rep Power: 10	Sexy metal porn pics, as always, Porkie Aye, PON I will be at Beds RS day on the 19th, but still with std 'box, so taking it easy in third until the red mist rolls in, about half a lap after the slicks are warm Hope to experience your rally taxi in full sideways hooligan mode, should be wicked. Cheers Newts __________________ POWER - SUSPENSION - BRAKES and greasy paw prints from A1 RALLYSPURT TRACKDAY ESCORT COSSY FOR SALE £12950 http://www.passionford.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=103615

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cossy abuser PassionFord Post Troll Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 2,831 Rep Power: 0	I had one of these in my Race car and it behaved perfectly

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RichardPON 20K+ Super Poster. Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 23,348 Rep Power: 33	Rainbird, or Bernie (CTS). We seeing you on track at Bedford in a few weeks then mate?

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RANJ 10K+ Poster!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: May 2003 Location: FuKnOsE Posts: 10,104 Rep Power: 20	get the cwp peened and superfinished whistut at it, bit more strength

06-01-2005, 09:35 AM	#10
Newts Regular Contributor Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: May 2003 Location: Bed.....Ford Shire Posts: 273 Rep Power: 10	What is the purpose of the thickwall casing? Sorry if thats a dumb question but I only have about 360bhp, so if the thickwall is for the big power brigade, then it may be surplus for me? Would I need a cwp shot peen/polish with my puny power, also? Thanks Newts

06-01-2005, 10:33 AM	#15
Phil Jeebus Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (1) Join Date: May 2003 Location: Staffordshire, UK Posts: 8,664 Rep Power: 18	The casing can crack if a lot of stress is put through it! Especially on launches (Kev Sharp has cracked a thickwall one I believe as well!) __________________ 1969 Mk1 Escort Cosworth 'Gulf'

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Newts Regular Contributor Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: May 2003 Location: Bed.....Ford Shire Posts: 273 Rep Power: 10	So am I likely to crack a std case with 360bhp, mainly track use and a few hard launches? Don't want the extra cost and weight of a thickwall case if I don't need it. Any ideas? Cheers Newts __________________ POWER - SUSPENSION - BRAKES and greasy paw prints from A1 RALLYSPURT TRACKDAY ESCORT COSSY FOR SALE £12950 http://www.passionford.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=103615

06-01-2005, 02:55 PM	#20
Newts Regular Contributor Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: May 2003 Location: Bed.....Ford Shire Posts: 273 Rep Power: 10	Thanks for the advice, all. Kev - cheque will be in the post tomorrow. I'll be able to answer my own questions about quaife ATB's on my next track day Cheers Newts __________________ POWER - SUSPENSION - BRAKES and greasy paw prints from A1 RALLYSPURT TRACKDAY ESCORT COSSY FOR SALE £12950 http://www.passionford.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=103615

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Sticky. 20K+ Super Poster. Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (4) Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Liverpool Posts: 23,076 Rep Power: 33	Just need a quaife box now Andy __________________ www.mattlewismotorsportonline.co.uk www.richardburnsfoundation.com www.mt-motorsport.com

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seveneigths Advanced PassionFord User Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Cheshire Posts: 2,030 Rep Power: 11	Winner take's all nice one andy yeah mate wheels look good but i should have took you advise mate on the colour never mind,good look on the new diff one will come up soon for me mine is cracked so i need one pretty soon. __________________ Regards Paul as frankie goes to hollywood said"ieieiei feels like power"cossie power that is,don't u just luv it. Divapeadlea in stores today www.motorsport-develoments.co.uk 01253 508400

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Newts Regular Contributor Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: May 2003 Location: Bed.....Ford Shire Posts: 273 Rep Power: 10	Enquiries under way regarding a 'box, Paul... Kev - thanks for speaking slowly I am already fluent in Scouse, so that helped a bit. "Tha chuk is en tha poost" 4 wheel drive isn't cheap Newts __________________ POWER - SUSPENSION - BRAKES and greasy paw prints from A1 RALLYSPURT TRACKDAY ESCORT COSSY FOR SALE £12950 http://www.passionford.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=103615

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Dunccoss PassionFord Post Troll Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: next to pc Posts: 2,573 Rep Power: 12	hi newits i have both on my car now and you can feel them working, evern more so when going slow and turning. i had just the front done on my car all summer and i noticed that it turned in better and felt so much more sure footed at the front. that is why i have put one on the rear as well to match __________________ Gold cup winner 2006

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seveneigths Advanced PassionFord User Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Cheshire Posts: 2,030 Rep Power: 11	thanks andy __________________ Regards Paul as frankie goes to hollywood said"ieieiei feels like power"cossie power that is,don't u just luv it. Divapeadlea in stores today www.motorsport-develoments.co.uk 01253 508400

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Porkie 20K+ Super Poster. Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (1) Join Date: May 2003 Location: Essex... and Birmingham! Posts: 21,522 Rep Power: 31	Think Sean Bicknell has a Thickwall and a Quaife ATB for sale.... Try Martin as well __________________ www.Reyland.co.uk www.Proalloy.co.uk

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seveneigths Advanced PassionFord User Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Cheshire Posts: 2,030 Rep Power: 11	thanks porkie have a look now __________________ Regards Paul as frankie goes to hollywood said"ieieiei feels like power"cossie power that is,don't u just luv it. Divapeadlea in stores today www.motorsport-develoments.co.uk 01253 508400

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Porkie 20K+ Super Poster. Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (1) Join Date: May 2003 Location: Essex... and Birmingham! Posts: 21,522 Rep Power: 31	You can't look mate, you will have to PM them __________________ www.Reyland.co.uk www.Proalloy.co.uk

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kjc300 PassionFord Post Whore!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (1) Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Hampshire Posts: 3,812 Rep Power: 13	Sean's gone to Atlanta today!!!! __________________ Cheers, Kev.

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Newts Regular Contributor Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: May 2003 Location: Bed.....Ford Shire Posts: 273 Rep Power: 10	Cheers Dunc - what driveshafts are you using up front? Have you gone for the longer xr4x4 ones or what? Having a nice grippy front end has got me worried about stuffing another offside driveshaft Cheers Porkie, Sean's got too much stuff for a man without a car Newts __________________ POWER - SUSPENSION - BRAKES and greasy paw prints from A1 RALLYSPURT TRACKDAY ESCORT COSSY FOR SALE £12950 http://www.passionford.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=103615

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Martin-Hadland 1st to 200 without NOS Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (2) Join Date: May 2003 Location: Birmingham Posts: 11,502 Rep Power: 21	yep i have a very low mileage atb in a ford thickwall casing (has 909 part number) the crown wheel and pinion are shot peened and polished and the casing has larger cover bolts and a stiffening plate in the base too. its no going to be mad cheap though

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kjc300 PassionFord Post Whore!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (1) Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Hampshire Posts: 3,812 Rep Power: 13	It's "Sarge" to you,Manning!!!! Don't make me bring this next time!! - and you seriously, think he's gonna answer pm's when he's spending all week in bed up to his "Ginger Perm" - so to speak!!!!!?? __________________ Cheers, Kev.

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Porkie 20K+ Super Poster. Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (1) Join Date: May 2003 Location: Essex... and Birmingham! Posts: 21,522 Rep Power: 31	If you have to ask... you can't afford it! That would go for £0000's on ebay and I suspect it will as well! __________________ www.Reyland.co.uk www.Proalloy.co.uk

06-01-2005, 08:52 PM	#39
Martin-Hadland 1st to 200 without NOS Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (2) Join Date: May 2003 Location: Birmingham Posts: 11,502 Rep Power: 21	its going for.................... £1500

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seveneigths Advanced PassionFord User Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Cheshire Posts: 2,030 Rep Power: 11	sorry mate a to much for me thanks anyway __________________ Regards Paul as frankie goes to hollywood said"ieieiei feels like power"cossie power that is,don't u just luv it. Divapeadlea in stores today www.motorsport-develoments.co.uk 01253 508400

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