cambelt on a 1.25 mk5 fiesta

morto · 19-01-2010, 06:53 PM

hi all, im going to be doing a cambelt on a mk 5 fiesta 1.25 thats the engine that was made by ford and yamaha,its done 70,000 any tips on this and any links to some cambelt kits..

thanks
andy

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tabetha · 19-01-2010, 07:01 PM

Easy enough to do, the dayco kits are very good vfm, and decent quality.
Make sure you get a kit with everything needed and not just the belt though.
Don't overtighten when doing things up as these do seem to strip threads easy, unless I was just unlucky.
tabetha

James998 · 19-01-2010, 07:02 PM

How much mechanic experience do you have mate? I don't want to teach you to suck eggs kind of thing.

They'er quite simple though tbh, alternator, engine mount and bracket off, 10mm blanking bolt is on the belt end of the engine, at the back near the driveshaft support bearing. Floating crank so it's essential you lock the crank off, and just turn the engine over plenty of times and check the timing before you put it back together.

Any questions just ask mate.

Evey · 19-01-2010, 07:04 PM

Crank pulley bolt can be extremely tight, you will struggle unless you have Air tools and a decent compresser.

With any cambelt, mark up manufacturers marks, and make up your own marks, check check and check again.

NB, replace the Tensioner also, as its these that tend to fail, not the belt

morto · 19-01-2010, 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tabetha

Easy enough to do, the dayco kits are very good vfm, and decent quality.
Make sure you get a kit with everything needed and not just the belt though.
Don't overtighten when doing things up as these do seem to strip threads easy, unless I was just unlucky.
tabetha

thanks for that, ive got a dayco kit on my evo and not alot of people now dayco make the oem belt for farrari,s

dojj · 19-01-2010, 07:19 PM

tensioner is a must

matts1 · 19-01-2010, 07:24 PM

is there not a secial tool nneded to remove the pulley?

dojj · 19-01-2010, 07:46 PM

pully puller?
might be

Glenn. · 19-01-2010, 07:53 PM

you have to remove the cam cover and lock the cams off. My wifes fiestas t belt needs doing. I would like to have a go myself but i dont like doing t belts.

Glenn. · 19-01-2010, 07:55 PM

a lad i work with said you can cut the t belt cover to remove the belt and then you dont have to remove the bottom pulley.

clarke5700 · 19-01-2010, 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glenny Boy

a lad i work with said you can cut the t belt cover to remove the belt and then you dont have to remove the bottom pulley.

sod that its easy enouth to get off imo ive never had any trouble can be a bit stickey but soon comes off

James998 · 19-01-2010, 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glenny Boy

a lad i work with said you can cut the t belt cover to remove the belt and then you dont have to remove the bottom pulley.

How do you fit the new belt?

Cut that and cable tie it back together?

Teej · 19-01-2010, 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glenny Boy

a lad i work with said you can cut the t belt cover to remove the belt and then you dont have to remove the bottom pulley.

Does he ride a horse to work

foreigneRS · 19-01-2010, 08:23 PM

miy '96 needs doing as well as it's now up to 130,000 miles, but for the cost of parts and the time and hassle it's not worth it. i only paid £90 for the car 5 years ago

thrash it 'til it dies is my motto, although i did stop this morning when i could smell oil and lifted the bonnet to find i had left the 710 cap off after topping it up on sunday

Butch. · 19-01-2010, 08:38 PM

you need a flat bar to lock the cams off and a peg to lock the crank. you need to make sure that the bolts are very very tight as the crank and cams have no keyway and just spin if not tightened up ive seen loads of people bend all the valves in the head..

1.9 xr2 on 40's · 19-01-2010, 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by foreigneRS

miy '96 needs doing as well as it's now up to 130,000 miles, but for the cost of parts and the time and hassle it's not worth it. i only paid £90 for the car 5 years ago

thrash it 'til it dies is my motto, although i did stop this morning when i could smell oil and lifted the bonnet to find i had left the 710 cap off after topping it up on sunday

thats my theory, i'd rather change an engine than a cambelt so let it go

botters · 19-01-2010, 08:57 PM

easy enough to do if you have enough experience like mentioned above make sure you lock the crank and beware when locked it only stops it turning clockwise but will turn anti clockwise so check check and check again, and if you do cock the timing up dont try to set it to top dead centre on no1 as these time up quite a few degrees before tdc, however if you do time them at tdc they will still run just wont tick over!!!!

Dan1281 · 19-01-2010, 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by morto

hi all, im going to be doing a cambelt on a mk 5 fiesta 1.25 thats the engine that was made by ford and yamaha,its done 70,000 any tips on this and any links to some cambelt kits..

thanks
andy

apparently the zetec SE's only need a belt at 100k

3i_gaz · 20-01-2010, 12:24 AM

i wouldent trust a cambelt to 100k no fucking way, even though that is the recommended interval. alwys change mine early to be on the safe side

as said make sure you lock the crank!!!! and a spot of locktite on the bottom pulley when it goes back on fooking TIGHT

Glenn. · 20-01-2010, 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Teej

Does he ride a horse to work

This lad used to work for ford for about 30 years lol

Glenn. · 20-01-2010, 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by James998

How do you fit the new belt?

Cut that and cable tie it back together?

Read closely i didnt say i fitted it did i you ball bag lol

Glenn. · 20-01-2010, 09:02 AM

anyone wanna come and do the wifes fiesta. I dont mind paying. I just dont like doing timing belts.

Glenn. · 20-01-2010, 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan1281

apparently the zetec SE's only need a belt at 100k

10 years or 100k miles.

mozzy · 20-01-2010, 09:17 AM

the tensioners should be changed at about 60k though and if anyone just changes the one or the other needs shooting

utternutter · 20-01-2010, 09:27 AM

the amount of focus's and fiestas etc that have let go before 100k i have recovered i couldnt even recal but its a helll of a lot

3i_gaz · 20-01-2010, 07:17 PM

as said its the shit quality tensioner pulleys that let go so often

dojj · 20-01-2010, 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3i_gaz

i wouldent trust a cambelt to 100k no fucking way, even though that is the recommended interval. alwys change mine early to be on the safe side

as said make sure you lock the crank!!!! and a spot of locktite on the bottom pulley when it goes back on fooking TIGHT

when i had my cossie they were changed every couple of thousand miles

even cam chains, if they are easy enough to do i'd rather thange them after 100k or so rather than lob in a new engine

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foreigneRS Testing the future Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: W. Sussex Posts: 16,066 Rep Power: 25	miy '96 needs doing as well as it's now up to 130,000 miles, but for the cost of parts and the time and hassle it's not worth it. i only paid £90 for the car 5 years ago thrash it 'til it dies is my motto, although i did stop this morning when i could smell oil and lifted the bonnet to find i had left the 710 cap off after topping it up on sunday __________________ Nick It takes me less than 9 minutes RP Lab L8 ECU 1998 Puma 1.7 / 2002 Galaxy 2.3 LPG / 2007 Honda VFR800 VTEC / 1972 Honda C90

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3i_gaz PassionFord Post Troll Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: liverpool Posts: 2,602 Rep Power: 9	i wouldent trust a cambelt to 100k no fucking way, even though that is the recommended interval. alwys change mine early to be on the safe side as said make sure you lock the crank!!!! and a spot of locktite on the bottom pulley when it goes back on fooking TIGHT __________________ Ebony Black 4x4 Saph Cosworth Resto

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tabetha BANNED BANNED Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: uk Posts: 24,646 Rep Power: 0	Easy enough to do, the dayco kits are very good vfm, and decent quality. Make sure you get a kit with everything needed and not just the belt though. Don't overtighten when doing things up as these do seem to strip threads easy, unless I was just unlucky. tabetha

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James998 Too many posts.. I need a life!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Lincoln Posts: 692 Rep Power: 6	How much mechanic experience do you have mate? I don't want to teach you to suck eggs kind of thing. They'er quite simple though tbh, alternator, engine mount and bracket off, 10mm blanking bolt is on the belt end of the engine, at the back near the driveshaft support bearing. Floating crank so it's essential you lock the crank off, and just turn the engine over plenty of times and check the timing before you put it back together. Any questions just ask mate.

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Evey Part of the Furniture Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Doncaster Posts: 157 Rep Power: 4	Crank pulley bolt can be extremely tight, you will struggle unless you have Air tools and a decent compresser. With any cambelt, mark up manufacturers marks, and make up your own marks, check check and check again. NB, replace the Tensioner also, as its these that tend to fail, not the belt

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Glenn. Professional Waffler Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (1) Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Darlington county durham Posts: 27,870 Rep Power: 33	you have to remove the cam cover and lock the cams off. My wifes fiestas t belt needs doing. I would like to have a go myself but i dont like doing t belts.

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Glenn. Professional Waffler Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (1) Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Darlington county durham Posts: 27,870 Rep Power: 33	a lad i work with said you can cut the t belt cover to remove the belt and then you dont have to remove the bottom pulley.

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Butch. PassionFord Post Troll Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (1) Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kettering Posts: 2,984 Rep Power: 9	you need a flat bar to lock the cams off and a peg to lock the crank. you need to make sure that the bolts are very very tight as the crank and cams have no keyway and just spin if not tightened up ive seen loads of people bend all the valves in the head..

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botters competant bodger 1989 ford escort My Garage Trader Score: (0) Join Date: May 2009 Location: preston Posts: 3,437 Rep Power: 6	easy enough to do if you have enough experience like mentioned above make sure you lock the crank and beware when locked it only stops it turning clockwise but will turn anti clockwise so check check and check again, and if you do cock the timing up dont try to set it to top dead centre on no1 as these time up quite a few degrees before tdc, however if you do time them at tdc they will still run just wont tick over!!!!

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Glenn. Professional Waffler Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (1) Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Darlington county durham Posts: 27,870 Rep Power: 33	anyone wanna come and do the wifes fiesta. I dont mind paying. I just dont like doing timing belts.

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mozzy Ford for life Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Bristol Posts: 1,770 Rep Power: 0	the tensioners should be changed at about 60k though and if anyone just changes the one or the other needs shooting

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utternutter BANNED BANNED Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: hampshire Posts: 645 Rep Power: 0	the amount of focus's and fiestas etc that have let go before 100k i have recovered i couldnt even recal but its a helll of a lot

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3i_gaz PassionFord Post Troll Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: liverpool Posts: 2,602 Rep Power: 9	as said its the shit quality tensioner pulleys that let go so often __________________ Ebony Black 4x4 Saph Cosworth Resto

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