'02 Focus Zetec Non-Starter Help

reisskahn · 16-01-2010, 01:07 AM

Long story short:

keys missplaced
new key cut but not coded
get into car
open the bonnet
find orginal key

Now car won't start all ignition lights turn on and the red (i presume) immobiliser light above the CD Player is just blinking

No turn or effort from the starter at all

Was told car runs and drives prior to the original key being lost

Any ideas?

thanks

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CosworthGuy · 16-01-2010, 01:53 AM

take it to ford or a ford specialist for key reprogram. I just had it with a 406 i've had years. Pulled a fuse. Put it back. Light on but no start.

reisskahn · 16-01-2010, 01:59 AM

Thought it could be that but too tight to pay up's

Though i've read up because i've put the uncoded key into the Ignition and switched it on its erased all the codes from all the keys

Is that possible?

DangerousBryan · 16-01-2010, 08:08 AM

shouldn't have done really. what does the immobiliser light do when you put the key in the ignition? when you put the ignition on it should go solid and then go off. if it keeps flashing then its an immobiliser fault.

Glenn. · 16-01-2010, 09:12 AM

modern technology strikes again. I would of said the keys need coding. How many original keys have you got with the car. Is it just the one.

reisskahn · 16-01-2010, 11:35 AM

Immobiliser is flashing when ignition is on and when trying to start it

Only 1 Original key i believe... Looks like ill have to get it coded

martysmartie · 16-01-2010, 12:04 PM

Shoulden't have any effect at all the original key should still work, the new one won't as it hasen't been paired with the car.

Did you try starting with the new key before you found the original? To put ECU into learning mode to program new key you need a working key to start with.

Martin

tabetha · 16-01-2010, 05:39 PM

As said a new key won't erase or affect anything, it just won't work.
Assuming it's the same as earlier mondy etc with the RED master key, then you simply inser this key first, take out then have a certain time to insert new key and it reads the code and remembers it, something like that anyway.
As you will not have to take it to a ford dealer, ask them to delete the old keys, get yourself another cut, and ask them to programme a red master.
Shop around a lot for prices if you have local ford garages, but beleive some mobile locksmiths can do this as well now.
I had a new black key supplied and a red master supplied/coded and all the old keys deleted and it cost me £60 ish, but that was about 6 years ago.
tabetha

reisskahn · 16-01-2010, 11:53 PM

No didn't try starting it with the new key just turned on igintion and unlocked the steering wheel.

Tried to start it with the supposedly original that i managed to find

Disconnected the battery - no joy
left the original key in the barrel with the ignition on for about an hour somewhat hoping itll re-code lol but no joy

And no its not like the earlier mondeo's these models need the specalist computer to program them

Got a very cheap and resonable quote so will keep you posted on what happens

thanks

16-01-2010, 08:08 AM	#4
DangerousBryan Advanced PassionFord User 2000 Ford Focus My Garage Trader Score: (0) Join Date: May 2004 Location: sheffield,s.yorks Posts: 1,587 Rep Power: 9	shouldn't have done really. what does the immobiliser light do when you put the key in the ignition? when you put the ignition on it should go solid and then go off. if it keeps flashing then its an immobiliser fault. __________________ bryan e36 m3 evo 4 door. 13.81@102 1/4 2.1sec 60ft and a tranny diesel 76bhp 9.21 bridge to gantry. 14 laps

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16-01-2010, 01:53 AM	#2
CosworthGuy 3dr Cosworth owner 1986 Ford Sierra Cosworth Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Lincolnshire Posts: 1,628 Rep Power: 6	take it to ford or a ford specialist for key reprogram. I just had it with a 406 i've had years. Pulled a fuse. Put it back. Light on but no start.

16-01-2010, 01:59 AM	#3
reisskahn Too many posts.. I need a life!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Birmingham Posts: 692 Rep Power: 7	Thought it could be that but too tight to pay up's Though i've read up because i've put the uncoded key into the Ignition and switched it on its erased all the codes from all the keys Is that possible?

16-01-2010, 09:12 AM	#5
Glenn. Professional Waffler Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (1) Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Darlington county durham Posts: 27,859 Rep Power: 33	modern technology strikes again. I would of said the keys need coding. How many original keys have you got with the car. Is it just the one.

16-01-2010, 11:35 AM	#6
reisskahn Too many posts.. I need a life!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Birmingham Posts: 692 Rep Power: 7	Immobiliser is flashing when ignition is on and when trying to start it Only 1 Original key i believe... Looks like ill have to get it coded

16-01-2010, 12:04 PM	#7
martysmartie PassionFord Post Whore!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (1) Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 4,916 Rep Power: 10	Shoulden't have any effect at all the original key should still work, the new one won't as it hasen't been paired with the car. Did you try starting with the new key before you found the original? To put ECU into learning mode to program new key you need a working key to start with. Martin

16-01-2010, 05:39 PM	#8
tabetha BANNED BANNED Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: uk Posts: 24,646 Rep Power: 0	As said a new key won't erase or affect anything, it just won't work. Assuming it's the same as earlier mondy etc with the RED master key, then you simply inser this key first, take out then have a certain time to insert new key and it reads the code and remembers it, something like that anyway. As you will not have to take it to a ford dealer, ask them to delete the old keys, get yourself another cut, and ask them to programme a red master. Shop around a lot for prices if you have local ford garages, but beleive some mobile locksmiths can do this as well now. I had a new black key supplied and a red master supplied/coded and all the old keys deleted and it cost me £60 ish, but that was about 6 years ago. tabetha

16-01-2010, 11:53 PM	#9
reisskahn Too many posts.. I need a life!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Birmingham Posts: 692 Rep Power: 7	No didn't try starting it with the new key just turned on igintion and unlocked the steering wheel. Tried to start it with the supposedly original that i managed to find Disconnected the battery - no joy left the original key in the barrel with the ignition on for about an hour somewhat hoping itll re-code lol but no joy And no its not like the earlier mondeo's these models need the specalist computer to program them Got a very cheap and resonable quote so will keep you posted on what happens thanks

16-01-2010, 11:53 PM
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