Seat Leon Cupra R - Anyone got one? **UPDATE - OPINIONS ON A CAR**

bigchez · 07-01-2010, 11:23 PM

Looking to change my car as only live 2 miles from work now so don't need boring diseaseal and can cycle in. Want something with a bit of go, but despite having 5 years protected NCB getting quoted £1100 for scoobs and £1500 for Evo's, and refuse to pay it!

Seat is coming in at £700 insurance and looks ok - the sort of thing you wouldn't be embarrased turning up places but can still have some fun, and less likely to get jacked driving round brum

.

Ones like these:

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1422097.htm

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1393265.htm

Anyone got/had one? Any common faults to look out for? Provided stick to remap, filter and exhaust should be pretty reliable right?

Ta!

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zetec-Sam · 07-01-2010, 11:29 PM

I haven't but a mate had one. Bigger turbo, intercooler, re-map exhaust etc. decent power. And fook me did it go! Ate front tyres though if he wasn't careful. I think they look pretty nice aswell.

alangti · 07-01-2010, 11:31 PM

i had 1 dont leave the keys in and shut the door very expensive lol

good cars mate i didnt have it long but enjoyed driving it

Nick Mexi-cos · 08-01-2010, 12:04 AM

I got one in stock at the moment and driven a few aswell , Great Car nice to drive handle well , and easy to tune , did have a yellow modded one was 300bhp went real well

Bobby Singh · 08-01-2010, 07:41 AM

My mate has had one for a few years now and its a very nice car. He's spent a lot of money on IHI turbo conversion but its running over 300hp and fook me its goes. Still on stock internals as well.

Ebonycossie4x4 · 08-01-2010, 08:01 AM

ive got one 260-270hp, goes well and is nice to drive.

bud-weis · 08-01-2010, 08:53 AM

I loved mine to be fair! i think it was an ex-press demo car..had sat-nav and recaros etc.

The usually problems with the VAG engine is coil packs....if you do have problems dont waste money on pattern parts, just go direct to Seat/VW (the pattern ones quite often make the engine management light come on!)

Front end takes a fair bit of abuse so they can be heavy on bushes and mounts.

They're really good cars IMO, build quality isnt quite as good as a golf, but they are well equipped and drive/handle really nicely.

Ebonycossie4x4 · 08-01-2010, 09:15 AM

This is what the interior is like on them if you have not had a look at one.

Big Boot Too...

turbo_3dr_tommy · 08-01-2010, 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigchez

Looking to change my car as only live 2 miles from work now so don't need boring diseaseal and can cycle in. Want something with a bit of go, but despite having 5 years protected NCB getting quoted £1100 for scoobs and £1500 for Evo's, and refuse to pay it!

Seat is coming in at £700 insurance and looks ok - the sort of thing you wouldn't be embarrased turning up places but can still have some fun, and less likely to get jacked driving round brum

.

Ones like these:

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1422097.htm

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1393265.htm

Anyone got/had one? Any common faults to look out for? Provided stick to remap, filter and exhaust should be pretty reliable right?

Ta!

who did you get a qoute off for the evo ???

try A-plan mate bet they come in loads cheaper

smithy20vt · 08-01-2010, 09:38 AM

Nice car for the money now, with a basic stage one map you are looking at around 270bhp for around £300 without an aftermarket exhaust or airfilter the only thing recommended is an aftermarket recirc dv something like a Forge 007p

Shings · 08-01-2010, 09:56 AM

Electrical faults are commong.

Maf sensor, coil packs and similar.

Be wary of any water in the car or condensation - they leak like a sieve.. do a search on the Seat Forum.

Other than that I enjoyed mine - I had the Cupra not the Cupra R - but its the same car minus a few knobs and dials.

Shings · 08-01-2010, 09:56 AM

Oh and clutch pedals fail too - about 30 quid and a bit of fucking about to fix

AlexF · 08-01-2010, 10:51 AM

They go really well after a remap

Ebonycossie4x4 · 08-01-2010, 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shings

Electrical faults are commong.

Maf sensor, coil packs and similar.

Be wary of any water in the car or condensation - they leak like a sieve.. do a search on the Seat Forum.

Other than that I enjoyed mine - I had the Cupra not the Cupra R - but its the same car minus a few knobs and dials.

knobs and dials lol.

the focus rs from an st are only knobs and dials apart too are they.

mar_k · 08-01-2010, 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ebonycossie4x4

This is what the interior is like on them if you have not had a look at one.

Big Boot Too...

virtualy the same as my golf

Ebonycossie4x4 · 08-01-2010, 01:32 PM

i think they are the same mate, Ive had a few golfs and they drive basically the same too.

I dont drive it very often I just buy quick cars and sell them on when i get bored however in my opinion these are quite nice cars. I would never keep one for years but i would be happy if i had it over the summer.

Ive driven a lot worse, the yellows a bit much though lol.

Olivera · 08-01-2010, 03:02 PM

The Cupra R is a very different car from the normal Cupra. The Cupra R has over the normal Cupra:

Bigger K04 turbo
Twin intercoolers rather than a single
Much bigger front discs
Brembo front calipers
Different interior with recaro front seats
About 1000 other small changes that ive forgotten about

I've owned my Cupra R now for almost 4 years. Its now on 80k, I've done numerous trackdays and a ring trip and it has never broken down. Mine has been modified including a remap to 277bhp and running koni dampers with eibach springs and arbs. Note that standard unmodified its not particular fast or handles particularly well. Imo it definately needs the remap to free up 40-50 horses and the suspension and arbs needs replaced for half-decent handling.

Mike C · 08-01-2010, 03:16 PM

The Brembos must be shit hot because the brakes on the normal Cupra T are excellent.

Ebonycossie4x4 · 08-01-2010, 03:41 PM

the brakes are awesome, it was the first thing i commented on.

How sad am i lol

bigchez · 24-01-2010, 12:13 PM

Still thinking about these!

What does anyone think of this car:

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1444491.htm

Only 7 miles from me, so really tempted to go and have a look this afternoon. Seems expensive for an 02 car even if it is low mileage.

Rick Astley · 24-01-2010, 12:19 PM

We have the later version (58 plate) Leon Cupra K1, lovely car to drive, very refined, very good at motorway speeds too. My only issue with it is the horrific understeer I get in the wet but I'll put that down to it's weight.

turbocabessex · 24-01-2010, 12:20 PM

they r good cars mate an if thats wot u want go 4 it, at then end of the day its a golf gti really but sayin that i think id prefere the golf

Olivera · 24-01-2010, 01:37 PM

I'm selling my 03 Leon Cupra R soon for at least 3 grand less than that ph one, and its also very good condition.

Kitchen Devil · 24-01-2010, 03:59 PM

They're not bad cars tbh. I was senior technician at a Seat dealer for a few years and didn't have many major issues with them.

The common things I found were,

Clutch pedals break,
Window regulators break,
The dash can rattle quite bad, usually due the clips that secure the top part of the dash by the screen,
washer pipes come apart,
coolant temp sensors,
as already mentioned, coils can fail,
pollen filters can leak water if the trim isn't fitted right,
the window regulator to door seals can fail letting water in,
boot release handle prone to failing,

There's a few other little niggles but generally they're sound cars, quick when they're remapped too!!

If you need front pads, don't buy them from a dealer, they were fookin expensive when I worked for them!!!

Tev · 24-01-2010, 04:49 PM

wicked cars my other half had 1

H7 CYA · 24-01-2010, 04:55 PM

Ive had one for 9 months and its been faultless. standard at the moment but gonna get it re-maped should see 260 quite easily. Good car in my opinion better than the golf and handles better than the s3. imo

Shings · 24-01-2010, 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kitchen Devil

They're not bad cars tbh. I was senior technician at a Seat dealer for a few years and didn't have many major issues with them.

The common things I found were,

Clutch pedals break,
Window regulators break,
The dash can rattle quite bad, usually due the clips that secure the top part of the dash by the screen,
washer pipes come apart,
coolant temp sensors,
as already mentioned, coils can fail,
pollen filters can leak water if the trim isn't fitted right,
the window regulator to door seals can fail letting water in,
boot release handle prone to failing,

There's a few other little niggles but generally they're sound cars, quick when they're remapped too!!

If you need front pads, don't buy them from a dealer, they were fookin expensive when I worked for them!!!

Clutch pedal - CHECK
Window regulator rubber - CHECK
Boot release handle failed -CHECK

Also air con screen breaks a lot and expensive new/sh to buy.

Water pumps also fail around 60k... made out of monkey plastic.

08-01-2010, 07:41 AM	#5
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Ebonycossie4x4 PassionFord Post Whore!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (4) Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Essex Posts: 6,370 Rep Power: 11	ive got one 260-270hp, goes well and is nice to drive. __________________ 2011 Mercedes C220D Sport In Essex Boy White! 360 Gamertag is Robbo Fandango Glad to be Back Viewing you in 27inch I7 Imac Greatness.

08-01-2010, 08:53 AM	#7
bud-weis Football Cwazy Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Redditch, Worcestershire Posts: 9,566 Rep Power: 17	I loved mine to be fair! i think it was an ex-press demo car..had sat-nav and recaros etc. The usually problems with the VAG engine is coil packs....if you do have problems dont waste money on pattern parts, just go direct to Seat/VW (the pattern ones quite often make the engine management light come on!) Front end takes a fair bit of abuse so they can be heavy on bushes and mounts. They're really good cars IMO, build quality isnt quite as good as a golf, but they are well equipped and drive/handle really nicely. __________________ Martin ^^^Invisible Pic of BMW M5^^^^^^^^^ *EVO GONE!! M5 POWER ALL THE WAYYYYYY!* *Chipipedia - Knows EVERYTHING.*

08-01-2010, 09:15 AM	#8
Ebonycossie4x4 PassionFord Post Whore!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (4) Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Essex Posts: 6,370 Rep Power: 11	This is what the interior is like on them if you have not had a look at one. Big Boot Too... __________________ 2011 Mercedes C220D Sport In Essex Boy White! 360 Gamertag is Robbo Fandango Glad to be Back Viewing you in 27inch I7 Imac Greatness.

08-01-2010, 09:56 AM	#11
Shings PassionFord Post Whore!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: May 2003 Location: Brum/Solihull/Central Group Posts: 7,971 Rep Power: 16	Electrical faults are commong. Maf sensor, coil packs and similar. Be wary of any water in the car or condensation - they leak like a sieve.. do a search on the Seat Forum. Other than that I enjoyed mine - I had the Cupra not the Cupra R - but its the same car minus a few knobs and dials. __________________ Not actually looking for a cossie- forgot to update my profile

07-01-2010, 11:29 PM	#2
zetec-Sam neeeeeeeeooowmmmm Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (2) Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Laannndaaaannnn Posts: 4,227 Rep Power: 7	I haven't but a mate had one. Bigger turbo, intercooler, re-map exhaust etc. decent power. And fook me did it go! Ate front tyres though if he wasn't careful. I think they look pretty nice aswell.

07-01-2010, 11:31 PM	#3
alangti BANNED BANNED Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: billingham Posts: 2,906 Rep Power: 0	i had 1 dont leave the keys in and shut the door very expensive lol good cars mate i didnt have it long but enjoyed driving it

08-01-2010, 12:04 AM	#4
Nick Mexi-cos Wahay!! I've lost my Virginity!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Hanging Around Sarf London Posts: 51 Rep Power: 9	I got one in stock at the moment and driven a few aswell , Great Car nice to drive handle well , and easy to tune , did have a yellow modded one was 300bhp went real well

08-01-2010, 09:38 AM	#10
smithy20vt Too many posts.. I need a life!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: ... Posts: 854 Rep Power: 7	Nice car for the money now, with a basic stage one map you are looking at around 270bhp for around £300 without an aftermarket exhaust or airfilter the only thing recommended is an aftermarket recirc dv something like a Forge 007p

08-01-2010, 10:51 AM	#13
AlexF 10K+ Poster!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: May 2003 Location: Newbury Posts: 13,127 Rep Power: 22	They go really well after a remap __________________ "Judging by the car you have chosen, you are a motorist of a special breed, and you are probably no novice when it comes to automobiles." . . . 928 S4 Owner's Manual 1987

08-01-2010, 01:32 PM	#16
Ebonycossie4x4 PassionFord Post Whore!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (4) Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Essex Posts: 6,370 Rep Power: 11	i think they are the same mate, Ive had a few golfs and they drive basically the same too. I dont drive it very often I just buy quick cars and sell them on when i get bored however in my opinion these are quite nice cars. I would never keep one for years but i would be happy if i had it over the summer. Ive driven a lot worse, the yellows a bit much though lol. __________________ 2011 Mercedes C220D Sport In Essex Boy White! 360 Gamertag is Robbo Fandango Glad to be Back Viewing you in 27inch I7 Imac Greatness.

08-01-2010, 03:02 PM	#17
Olivera 15000 Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (1) Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Glasgow Posts: 36 Rep Power: 0	The Cupra R is a very different car from the normal Cupra. The Cupra R has over the normal Cupra: Bigger K04 turbo Twin intercoolers rather than a single Much bigger front discs Brembo front calipers Different interior with recaro front seats About 1000 other small changes that ive forgotten about I've owned my Cupra R now for almost 4 years. Its now on 80k, I've done numerous trackdays and a ring trip and it has never broken down. Mine has been modified including a remap to 277bhp and running koni dampers with eibach springs and arbs. Note that standard unmodified its not particular fast or handles particularly well. Imo it definately needs the remap to free up 40-50 horses and the suspension and arbs needs replaced for half-decent handling. __________________

08-01-2010, 03:16 PM	#18
Mike C The Special One Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (1) Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Bridgnorth Posts: 10,470 Rep Power: 17	The Brembos must be shit hot because the brakes on the normal Cupra T are excellent. __________________

08-01-2010, 03:41 PM	#19
Ebonycossie4x4 PassionFord Post Whore!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (4) Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Essex Posts: 6,370 Rep Power: 11	the brakes are awesome, it was the first thing i commented on. How sad am i lol __________________ 2011 Mercedes C220D Sport In Essex Boy White! 360 Gamertag is Robbo Fandango Glad to be Back Viewing you in 27inch I7 Imac Greatness.

24-01-2010, 12:13 PM	#20
bigchez PassionFord Post Troll Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: . Posts: 2,609 Rep Power: 8	UPDATE - Opinions on this car Still thinking about these! What does anyone think of this car: http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1444491.htm Only 7 miles from me, so really tempted to go and have a look this afternoon. Seems expensive for an 02 car even if it is low mileage. __________________ .

24-01-2010, 12:19 PM	#21
Rick Astley Never gonna give you up! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Location: Location: Location: Location: Posts: 5,726 Rep Power: 13	We have the later version (58 plate) Leon Cupra K1, lovely car to drive, very refined, very good at motorway speeds too. My only issue with it is the horrific understeer I get in the wet but I'll put that down to it's weight.

24-01-2010, 12:20 PM	#22
turbocabessex shit happens Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (1) Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: essex Posts: 1,926 Rep Power: 5	they r good cars mate an if thats wot u want go 4 it, at then end of the day its a golf gti really but sayin that i think id prefere the golf __________________

24-01-2010, 01:37 PM	#23
Olivera 15000 Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (1) Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Glasgow Posts: 36 Rep Power: 0	I'm selling my 03 Leon Cupra R soon for at least 3 grand less than that ph one, and its also very good condition. __________________

24-01-2010, 03:59 PM	#24
Kitchen Devil Advanced PassionFord User Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (7) Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Under a car or in the cafe! Posts: 2,049 Rep Power: 6	They're not bad cars tbh. I was senior technician at a Seat dealer for a few years and didn't have many major issues with them. The common things I found were, Clutch pedals break, Window regulators break, The dash can rattle quite bad, usually due the clips that secure the top part of the dash by the screen, washer pipes come apart, coolant temp sensors, as already mentioned, coils can fail, pollen filters can leak water if the trim isn't fitted right, the window regulator to door seals can fail letting water in, boot release handle prone to failing, There's a few other little niggles but generally they're sound cars, quick when they're remapped too!! If you need front pads, don't buy them from a dealer, they were fookin expensive when I worked for them!!! __________________ 500 Bhp and 2WD in the making...

24-01-2010, 04:49 PM	#25
Tev PassionFord Post Troll Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (2) Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Coventry Posts: 2,909 Rep Power: 8	wicked cars my other half had 1 __________________ Last edited by Tev; 24-01-2010 at 04:51 PM.

24-01-2010, 04:55 PM	#26
H7 CYA I've found that life I needed.. It's HERE!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (3) Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: uk Posts: 1,355 Rep Power: 5	Ive had one for 9 months and its been faultless. standard at the moment but gonna get it re-maped should see 260 quite easily. Good car in my opinion better than the golf and handles better than the s3. imo

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