1.8 Si Zetec 1997 Escort Aux belt run HOW?

tim_ber · 28-12-2009, 05:52 PM

Do you know the way the auxiliary belt should run? Haynes manual offers no photos or help at all.

Had to pull engine to bits in a hurry last week or so ago.

Mate helped, but is not around for rebuild. He took auxilary belt off and didn't note the way it fitted.

Spent nearly 2 hours under, over and around the car today - all outside - and still can't figure how to get it on right.

Any links, photos or descriptions gratefully received.

Thanks and Happy New Year.
Tim

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orion_crazy_carl · 28-12-2009, 05:57 PM

air con?alternator on the front or back??

kitchy · 28-12-2009, 05:59 PM

sounds crazy but when i had the same problem on my escort i just drew a picture of all the pulleys etc it had to go round and then figured it out, and then fitted it

tim_ber · 28-12-2009, 06:07 PM

Yes, sorry.

Air con and power steering.

Alternator is at front of car and low down (I looked at a mate's Focus but his alternator was at rear and idler in different place)

Not a crazy idea; I drew it out twice and sat on the pea-shingle and scratched the old head. Thought I had it figured but didn't. Drew it again - still no joy.

orion_crazy_carl · 28-12-2009, 06:20 PM

you sure the alternator isnt on the back and the aircon is down the bottom?

ronf42 · 28-12-2009, 06:23 PM

try here and see if this helps

http://www.mondeosilvertop.co.uk/pages/cambelt.htm

orion_crazy_carl · 28-12-2009, 06:24 PM

thats what i found but shows the alternator on the back

tim_ber · 28-12-2009, 06:42 PM

Yes, you are right again.

The ac is lower than the alternator (ac at very bottom, alt about mid way up), but the alternator is at the front (I'm sure because I dropped a bit of power steering fluid on it which made me swear a bit !)

Just going to look at the link Ronnie,
Cheers
Tim

tim_ber · 28-12-2009, 06:53 PM

Thanks Ronnie,
But it's not the same as mine. The alternator is in the wrong place in your diagram.

On mine the alt is below the Power steer and above the AC and just slightly forward.

The tensioner is above the crank and to the right (as looking at your diagram) or to the front of the car. Just above the tensioner and slightly right is an idler pulley)

Looks like the Zetec on my mate's Focus though.

Wish I knew someone with another escort 1.8 Si 1997. Don't even need to take a cover off really to get enough of an idea.

Cheers,
Tim

ronf42 · 28-12-2009, 07:10 PM

I have taken a screen print from the Ford TIS cd, under Escort section. Maybe someone can confirm this to be right

hope this helps

tim_ber · 28-12-2009, 07:19 PM

Thank you SO MUCH Ronnie !

And thanks everyone who joined in and replied.

Happy New Year all.

Looks like I can get my car back together tomorrow.

Cheers,
Tim

tim_ber · 28-12-2009, 07:26 PM

That Ford TIS cd (never heard of it before), but it sounds pretty good - where can you get hold of one?

As this car has done 120k and I don't intend on getting rid of it (spent so much time on the old girl now I may as well keep on working on her whenever is needed). Welded in 2 big chunks of subframe during summer - did a good job too - the car has to keep going now with all that time spent on her. Totally filled the interior rails with wax oil until it poured out (which I collected for later use again).

The inside of the engine (had a good look unfortunately last week) looks really good - no wear on cams or followers at all to speak of - I do change the oil very regularly and have looked after her.

Anyway, thanks again,
Tim

ronf42 · 28-12-2009, 07:27 PM

no problems, thats what we are here for. The ford tis can come in handy sometimes!!, may be worthwhile downloading a copy, it is handy for things like that and for wiring diagrams etc

Phil360UK · 31-01-2010, 08:37 PM

Is there a Ford Technical Information System For a Ford Escort MK6? Looking For A Diagram For a MK6 with Power Steering & Air Conditioning (Haynes Manual No Very Good On Pictures)

ronf42 · 31-01-2010, 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phil360UK

Is there a Ford Technical Information System For a Ford Escort MK6? Looking For A Diagram For a MK6 with Power Steering & Air Conditioning (Haynes Manual No Very Good On Pictures)

what exactly is it you are looking for, is it a belt routing etc

Phil360UK · 31-01-2010, 09:03 PM

Yeah

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28-12-2009, 05:59 PM	#3
kitchy RS2000 4x4 Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Burbage Embassy, Barwell, Leicestershire Posts: 1,097 Rep Power: 7	sounds crazy but when i had the same problem on my escort i just drew a picture of all the pulleys etc it had to go round and then figured it out, and then fitted it __________________ Audi S3 aka "Sabine" MRC remapped, 254.7bhp & 261.9lb/ft www.mrctuning.com

28-12-2009, 06:07 PM	#4
tim_ber 15000 Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: uk Posts: 20 Rep Power: 0	Yes, sorry. Air con and power steering. Alternator is at front of car and low down (I looked at a mate's Focus but his alternator was at rear and idler in different place) Not a crazy idea; I drew it out twice and sat on the pea-shingle and scratched the old head. Thought I had it figured but didn't. Drew it again - still no joy. Last edited by tim_ber; 28-12-2009 at 06:07 PM. Reason: spelling bad as usual

28-12-2009, 06:23 PM	#6
ronf42 I've found that life I needed.. It's HERE!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (2) Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: kilwinning Posts: 1,430 Rep Power: 9	try here and see if this helps http://www.mondeosilvertop.co.uk/pages/cambelt.htm __________________ Ronnie

28-12-2009, 07:10 PM	#10
ronf42 I've found that life I needed.. It's HERE!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (2) Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: kilwinning Posts: 1,430 Rep Power: 9	I have taken a screen print from the Ford TIS cd, under Escort section. Maybe someone can confirm this to be right hope this helps __________________ Ronnie

28-12-2009, 07:19 PM	#11
tim_ber 15000 Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: uk Posts: 20 Rep Power: 0	Thank you Thank you SO MUCH Ronnie ! And thanks everyone who joined in and replied. Happy New Year all. Looks like I can get my car back together tomorrow. Cheers, Tim

28-12-2009, 06:42 PM	#8
tim_ber 15000 Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: uk Posts: 20 Rep Power: 0	Yes, you are right again. The ac is lower than the alternator (ac at very bottom, alt about mid way up), but the alternator is at the front (I'm sure because I dropped a bit of power steering fluid on it which made me swear a bit !) Just going to look at the link Ronnie, Cheers Tim

28-12-2009, 06:53 PM	#9
tim_ber 15000 Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: uk Posts: 20 Rep Power: 0	Thanks Ronnie, But it's not the same as mine. The alternator is in the wrong place in your diagram. On mine the alt is below the Power steer and above the AC and just slightly forward. The tensioner is above the crank and to the right (as looking at your diagram) or to the front of the car. Just above the tensioner and slightly right is an idler pulley) Looks like the Zetec on my mate's Focus though. Wish I knew someone with another escort 1.8 Si 1997. Don't even need to take a cover off really to get enough of an idea. Cheers, Tim

28-12-2009, 07:26 PM	#12
tim_ber 15000 Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: uk Posts: 20 Rep Power: 0	That Ford TIS cd (never heard of it before), but it sounds pretty good - where can you get hold of one? As this car has done 120k and I don't intend on getting rid of it (spent so much time on the old girl now I may as well keep on working on her whenever is needed). Welded in 2 big chunks of subframe during summer - did a good job too - the car has to keep going now with all that time spent on her. Totally filled the interior rails with wax oil until it poured out (which I collected for later use again). The inside of the engine (had a good look unfortunately last week) looks really good - no wear on cams or followers at all to speak of - I do change the oil very regularly and have looked after her. Anyway, thanks again, Tim

28-12-2009, 07:27 PM	#13
ronf42 I've found that life I needed.. It's HERE!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (2) Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: kilwinning Posts: 1,430 Rep Power: 9	no problems, thats what we are here for. The ford tis can come in handy sometimes!!, may be worthwhile downloading a copy, it is handy for things like that and for wiring diagrams etc __________________ Ronnie

31-01-2010, 08:37 PM	#14
Phil360UK Virgin Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Crawley, West Sussex Posts: 4 Rep Power: 0	Is there a Ford Technical Information System For a Ford Escort MK6? Looking For A Diagram For a MK6 with Power Steering & Air Conditioning (Haynes Manual No Very Good On Pictures)

31-01-2010, 09:03 PM	#16
Phil360UK Virgin Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Crawley, West Sussex Posts: 4 Rep Power: 0	Yeah Just Trying to dowload Ford Etis 0609

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