MTECH Mondeo Zetec Turbo

[andybrst]

Just for all reading the above i too am a customer of power conversions and was in contact with chris when the build of the mondeo was going on and to be 100% honest chris did everything in his power to get the mondeo build ready but the owner of the vehicle like chris said couldnt make his mind up on 3 occasions, aswell as changing the managment set up so what wa chris to do when only been given 2weeks to complete such a build and when giving professional advice the owner of the mondeo did not want to know being made fully aware of the concequences, in my opinion its far to easy to start blaming and slaging off tuners/engine builders or any1 in this line of work without people kowing all the facts and then to start kicking off regarding leaks etc thats the whole point of carrying out a road test of the vehicle after a build has been carried out but he owner of the mondeo didnt want to know and just ignored chris's advice so if you ask me you have got what you deserve and how you have the right to then come on here slaggin people off after you ignore them well fine. All i can say in all my experiences with dealing with tuners etc chris at power conversions is the nicest bloke i have dealt with along with carrying out great work. i also know other customers of his who are over the moon with his work so all i can say guys is ignore all negative comments as it is the customers own fault for ignoring the advice

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[intergrale30]

Seeing as it was Chris that advised changing the management , and he said the car was ok to drive (do not remember you being there at any stage???) I stupidly listened to him. You say he had only 2 weeks for the engine build,seeing as you where not there you would not realise that Chris was payed 7 months prior to receiving the car to build the engine , so it was ready to put in, I am not a mechanic but it did not take me 2 weeks to remove the engine and refitt to sort his mess , so taKE YOUR CONCLUSIONS FROM THAT.mtech who are a proffesional firm where preperred to write an engineers report on the poor work , so again take your conclusions from that, and for you whoever you are , read the mails that Chris has and the DATES seeing you are so pally with him and see for yourself. But I do agree with you in one thing Chris is a nice guy.

[M-Tech Automotive]

In my opinion the finishing bits could of had more time spent on them, but the actual engine build was very good. It held boost very well and didnt give us any overheating problems etc whoich can sometims be seen with lesser builds. I am conifdent we can push the engine further power wise without any concerns, was just a few oil leaks here and there that needed sorting. The oil spray jets had also seperated from the engine, although I have seen this on another Zetec Turbo built by someone else, but it may be something worth looking into a decent fix for future builds?

I believe that alot of work was put into remdying other bits and bobs but that wasnt by us so I can't really comment on them, or the state they were in etc.

Just trying to cool things down

Matt

[intergrale30]

Sorry guys , as you can understand this is a sore point with me and when guys who where not there and have not had anything to do with it start making comments , it kicks off. As matt said the internals of the engine where done well ,I will give Chris that, but the rest was a mess . I am not saying he is not good , but he was not with my car. What this guy is talking about changing my mind all the time is b..ll..cks,if you read the mails before Chris started of what I wanted , it is how we have done the car, it was Chris that said it was better to use the black top and megasquirt. As for money ,seeing as Chris has the £1000 for the Quaife,£300 for the intercooler and £200 for clutch, plus all the parts he took of , he has come out on the pluss side seeing as none of this was done!!!
Anyway I learnt my lesson and now Mtech have my custom ,so no need too discuss further with people not involved. Chris is welcome to answear my mails if he has a problem.

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[Zetec_mk4_XR3i]

very nice car mate, love a mondeo

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[intergrale30]

Thanks mate

[percybigun]

nice car! are the norwegian st200's 2.0 blacktop zetec then? i thought they were all 2.5v6 duratec 200bhp?

FYI my mk1 mondeo zetec turbo has crunched a few diffs in the past, running at around 275-300bhp but now i have a LSD fitted its OK (and now goes in a straight line, which always helps!)

[DanW@FastFord]

Originally Posted by percybigun

nice car! are the norwegian st200's 2.0 blacktop zetec then? i thought they were all 2.5v6 duratec 200bhp?

Pretty sure he had the engine swapped. As to my knowledge all 200s were V6s.

[percybigun]

ah right its just he was saying he needed to stay blacktop due to norwegian rules/regs, and that it still has the standard 2.0 exhaust? the v6 exhaust system will fit onto the zetec mondeo's.

[M-Tech Automotive]

It was swapped from the V6 chaps

[rsturbojames]

£6000 for 47 bhp wow

[M-Tech Automotive]

Ah, so you've read the whole post then? We're after 350bhp once a decent gbox is in.... WOW indeed....

[intergrale30]

As Matt said the engine was changed , as regard to the Norwegian rules/regs , you have to register the new engine and engine nummer in the log book and this has to be an approved mod. Because of the year of manufacture , if the car was to have a 2.0litre engine it has to be a blacktop as this is what is fitted to the year of car.(somthing to do with TUV regs. ), the exhaust is the st200 exhaust from cat back but has focus rs downpipe and a temperary flexi joint to mate the two. Changed from the v.6 to the 2.0litre as a). Tunning parts are easy to get hold of (due to focus rs) b). No room in eng. bay with v6 fitted and have not heard of a turbo for it , so limited what power I could with an N.A eng. Hope this explains?? See why you asked though , it does sound strange, but again as Matt said we are going for a lot more power , just need a box that will take it first.

[M-Tech Automotive]

Rich,

We should be pulling our MTX75 soon, I'll have a look into quaife ATB options.

Cheers,
Matt

[percybigun]

yes this is why i went for zetecs with forced induction on both of my mondeo's, wasnt impressed with the v6 due to its weight, mpg, low power as standard for what it is, limited amount of space, limited amount of performance parts available for it, and the widespread headgasket and bottom end issues on them. whereas tuned zetecs are a much more widely known culture to glean information from.

plus the labour charges to do anything on them are more due to there being alot more engine bits to be working on!

i got the ford racing torsen diff (virtually the same as the quaiffe) from CFM in america, worked out a fair bit cheaper than buying from UK retailers. local garage put it in for me with new bearings and it didnt cost alot to get done.

[intergrale30]

Cheers Matt , will give you a call soon , need your advise on hooking up to the laptop...

[intergrale30]

Thanks mate , I will look into that , I take it the CFM diff works just as well???

[percybigun]

yes its pretty much the same. i enquired on a few forums in usa where people had used the ford facing diff on higher powered focuses and they rated it very well.

its nice to get the power down without the steering wheel being ripped out of your hands, and to be able to accelerate out of corners on full throttle! you do need things like strut braces, poly'd wishbones etc etc aswell when going 300bhp or it is quite a handful (yours being the mk2 estate will be a bit more sloppy/heavy than my mk1 saloon)

[intergrale30]

It is already braced , poly bushed and has Eibach suspension , plus the ST200 suspension (wishbones etc) are different from the normal Mondeo ,so the car holds the road well , just the flipping gearbox that is the problem

[BazW]

Originally Posted by intergrale30

You had to use my engine(even though you had been paid in advance to built a new one) because you did not realise a silvertop would not go straight in a car built for a Blacktop

Originally Posted by intergrale30

it was Chris that said it was better to use the black top and megasquirt

Originally Posted by intergrale30

As Matt said the engine was changed , as regard to the Norwegian rules/regs , you have to register the new engine and engine nummer in the log book and this has to be an approved mod. Because of the year of manufacture , if the car was to have a 2.0litre engine it has to be a blacktop as this is what is fitted to the year of car.(somthing to do with TUV regs. )

That bit doesn't add up? So he had to remove, convert and refit your engine otherwise your car wouldn't pass Norwegian regulations? So if he hadn't insisted on using your engine you would have struggled to use it there without going through loads of red tape?

[intergrale30]

The paperwork and engine change had already been done before the car went to powerconversions , as I had intended on converting myself , but then saw there web site and decided to let them build me an engine so I had mine to throw in for MOT , but the engine he built(or said he built was a silvertop,even though Iwanted a blacktop)) I delivered car to him , after he had had the car 2 weeks he called and said he was having problems getting the silvertop to fit , so if I wanted he could convert my Blacktop , which I agreed too as then the engine number would match. It is a long complicated story

[intergrale30]

Basically in Norway it is a nightmare to get a car through its MOT if it has been modified , any changes to the car (including a set of alloys) have to be approved by the ministry and detailed on your log book and they want TUV papers for everything , plus for every bhp over 100 bhp you have to pay tax (roughly £100 per bhp)

[BazW]

What's the difference between black tops and silver tops then?

[intergrale30]

Engine mounts for one

[intergrale30]

The heads are different , sumps are different , do not think the gearboxes are the same either(not 100% sure though), so quite different

[tarmac terriost]

silver top runs hydraulic tappets and black top solid tappet with shims, black top motor runs longer stroke than the silver top motor ,the emissions set up was different too even the thermostat housing were changed some with two sensors some with one sensors.
the inlet and exhaust manifolds where different too there was a few more differences but dont have time to list all lol.

as for the gearboxes the early zetec's ran cable, but from 95 on ran hydraulic set up wish is much better than the old cable set up lot smoother clutches last longer too.
the gearboxes for the v6's and 2.0 si had different ratio's over the ghia's etc

since you been using rs focus bits the clutch and flywheel will fit the mondeo a treat
240mm not sure if the rs box fits tho but can remove the lsd from it !!!

ps good luck with the rest of the zetec turbo build

[Alex_86]

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ser du har hengerfeste, kan du ikke ta med rsen min over på henger nestegang du skal over

[intergrale30]

Ja det kan eg , ka e galen med RSèn din???

[intergrale30]

Hi Matt , how is it going with the gearbox?? High idle seems to be either the inlet temp sensor or Idle cntrl. vlv. now the weather has warmed up the idle is becoming more normal , when we had -degrees it was idling at 2000rpm , strange. Can you send me an idiots guide of how to connect and comunicate with V4. Hope all is well ,send my best to Russ

[SiZT]

Originally Posted by tarmac terriost

black top motor runs longer stroke than the silver top motor

The stroke is the same on both, it's the rod length that changed

[M-Tech Automotive]

Hi mate,

If you go on our website and click ion guides you can download the manual, its pretty easy, but oif course call if you get stuck

gearbox wie, we have an MTX75 sat here ready for you, give me a call and we can spec it up and beginn the build...

When are you due over here agin next mate?

Oh we've moved units as well, have a look under the gallery on the site

Cheers,
Matt

[Glenn.]

love this mondeo. Top car.