Help - non start mk 4 astra

steves24V's · 20-11-2009, 10:52 PM

Hi i'm hoping there is some vauxhall experts on here that can help me as i've seached the net and can't find any help,

I've just got a S reg mk 4 astra 1.6 8v the car has been sat for nearly 3 years and when i picked it up it had no battery on it,

well ive been trying to get it going but the fuel pump doesn't run (no earth to the relay) and it has no spark, thought it may have an immobiliser fault as its cut of both things

any help would be great, cheers steve.

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Rossco · 20-11-2009, 10:54 PM

As its sat for so long maybe the key and the ECU arnt talking to each other, does the remote centrol locking work?

carfixz · 20-11-2009, 10:59 PM

have you opened the key and replaced the battery in it? If you have then theres a good chance you have lost the transponder for the immobiliser, it usually sits inside the key

steves24V's · 20-11-2009, 11:12 PM

The remote central locking is working fine,

Took the key apart tonight to check if the transponder was still there and it is,

getting stuck at this stage was hoping to get it going this weekend.

Rossco · 20-11-2009, 11:40 PM

Have you tried plugging a fault reader in, just a warning though Vauxhalls are very picky on which readers they let read them though.

Ginge · 20-11-2009, 11:45 PM

Could try this out...

http://www.vauxhallownersnetwork.co....d.php?t=164990

Ginge

Rossco · 21-11-2009, 12:00 AM

Didnt know the good old hair clip still worked on more modern Vauxhalls.

steves24V's · 21-11-2009, 12:35 AM

I'll try getting the code reader from work tomorrow and see what that shows up. The thing is when I first got it home I gave it a crank over and didn't start so thought I'd listen for the fuel pump and I'm sure it was going, so I put it down to bad fuel but when I went to try it with fresh fuel it didn't run so I looked a bit further.

steves24V's · 08-03-2010, 06:19 PM

Hi again i've still not got this going, not that i've spent much time on it over last few months due to a new born baby.

right the fault code was 1231 and said fuel pump primary circuit high

what ever thats ment be be.

Any idea's passionforder's i just want this gone so i can get my new project.

RichieST · 08-03-2010, 06:21 PM

My old focus had that fault code. It needed a new pump. Maybe where its been sat for so long the pump had siezed? Try giving it a clout with a hammer to see if it will unstick!

steves24V's · 08-03-2010, 06:29 PM

Fuel pump work's fine and looks good pressure as i took the pipe off the spi unit and linked the fuel pump reply and fuel came out.

RichieST · 08-03-2010, 06:31 PM

Does a quick spurt of fuel come out when you turn the ignition on? If not then could be a knackered relay?

steves24V's · 08-03-2010, 06:38 PM

no fuel pump doesnt purge at all, fuel pump relay seems for work ok, but not sure if there is another relay thats not working like a ignition relay as i dont have a spark,
been told that the engine management flashes like mad if its the immobiliser and it dont so getting stuck.

20-11-2009, 10:54 PM	#2
Rossco PassionFord Post Whore!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: May 2004 Location: Near Ipswich. Posts: 4,978 Rep Power: 12	As its sat for so long maybe the key and the ECU arnt talking to each other, does the remote centrol locking work? __________________ www.area-six.co.uk Check the progress here: http://www.passionford.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=73553

20-11-2009, 11:12 PM	#4
steves24V's Advanced PassionFord User Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (7) Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Suffolk Posts: 1,536 Rep Power: 7	The remote central locking is working fine, Took the key apart tonight to check if the transponder was still there and it is, getting stuck at this stage was hoping to get it going this weekend. __________________ B ^^^ RANGE ROVER P38 2.5 DSE ^^^^

20-11-2009, 11:40 PM	#5
Rossco PassionFord Post Whore!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: May 2004 Location: Near Ipswich. Posts: 4,978 Rep Power: 12	Have you tried plugging a fault reader in, just a warning though Vauxhalls are very picky on which readers they let read them though. __________________ www.area-six.co.uk Check the progress here: http://www.passionford.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=73553

21-11-2009, 12:00 AM	#7
Rossco PassionFord Post Whore!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: May 2004 Location: Near Ipswich. Posts: 4,978 Rep Power: 12	Didnt know the good old hair clip still worked on more modern Vauxhalls. __________________ www.area-six.co.uk Check the progress here: http://www.passionford.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=73553

21-11-2009, 12:35 AM	#8
steves24V's Advanced PassionFord User Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (7) Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Suffolk Posts: 1,536 Rep Power: 7	I'll try getting the code reader from work tomorrow and see what that shows up. The thing is when I first got it home I gave it a crank over and didn't start so thought I'd listen for the fuel pump and I'm sure it was going, so I put it down to bad fuel but when I went to try it with fresh fuel it didn't run so I looked a bit further. __________________ B ^^^ RANGE ROVER P38 2.5 DSE ^^^^

20-11-2009, 10:59 PM	#3
carfixz Too many posts.. I need a life!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: May 2004 Location: Edinburgh Posts: 542 Rep Power: 8	have you opened the key and replaced the battery in it? If you have then theres a good chance you have lost the transponder for the immobiliser, it usually sits inside the key

08-03-2010, 06:19 PM	#9
steves24V's Advanced PassionFord User Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (7) Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Suffolk Posts: 1,536 Rep Power: 7	Hi again i've still not got this going, not that i've spent much time on it over last few months due to a new born baby. right the fault code was 1231 and said fuel pump primary circuit high what ever thats ment be be. Any idea's passionforder's i just want this gone so i can get my new project. __________________ B ^^^ RANGE ROVER P38 2.5 DSE ^^^^

08-03-2010, 06:21 PM	#10
RichieST 10K+ Poster!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (2) Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Wiltshire Posts: 12,465 Rep Power: 20	My old focus had that fault code. It needed a new pump. Maybe where its been sat for so long the pump had siezed? Try giving it a clout with a hammer to see if it will unstick! __________________

08-03-2010, 06:29 PM	#11
steves24V's Advanced PassionFord User Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (7) Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Suffolk Posts: 1,536 Rep Power: 7	Fuel pump work's fine and looks good pressure as i took the pipe off the spi unit and linked the fuel pump reply and fuel came out. __________________ B ^^^ RANGE ROVER P38 2.5 DSE ^^^^

08-03-2010, 06:31 PM	#12
RichieST 10K+ Poster!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (2) Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Wiltshire Posts: 12,465 Rep Power: 20	Does a quick spurt of fuel come out when you turn the ignition on? If not then could be a knackered relay? __________________

08-03-2010, 06:38 PM	#13
steves24V's Advanced PassionFord User Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (7) Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Suffolk Posts: 1,536 Rep Power: 7	no fuel pump doesnt purge at all, fuel pump relay seems for work ok, but not sure if there is another relay thats not working like a ignition relay as i dont have a spark, been told that the engine management flashes like mad if its the immobiliser and it dont so getting stuck. __________________ B ^^^ RANGE ROVER P38 2.5 DSE ^^^^

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