Dissapointed in the E39 M5, am I mad or missing the point?

[RWD_cossie_wil]

Been looking very seriously at getting an E39 M5, and I had a test drive in one today. The MAFS have been done very recently, and the vanos seems to work as described by the test Stu put up on another post.... I have to say, I was quite dissapointed in it, , was lovelly and torquey, comfy and easy to drive, and felt very tight, but it just didn't seem to really go all that well for a 400Bhp car .. Don't get me wrong, as a package it seems great, but just lacks any drama/excitement ...One thing that I did notice is that you can really feel the weight of the car driving it, is really odd, as the chassis is nimble, but hefty at the same time. Am I missing the point? Wish I had never been in fast cossies before Might go and have a look at a few more, or maybe an E46 M3?

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[james kiely]

i havent been in one ,but i suspect they are going faster than you feel it is without any drama


cheers james

[JTECH James]

did you turn the dsc off and get her broadside?

[STUCOS]

Yes they do give you a diffrent feel to a cossie,try guessing the speed when driving,and then look at the speedo,you will get a shock

cheeRS stu

[Charlie Chalk]

Why would you go an look at a E46 M3 if you wasn't happy with an M5?

I think your mad, I can't see how a 400bhp M5 would be boring and slow as an everyday car?

Take up skydiving, soon gets you bored of cars

[Mark Shead]

Originally Posted by RWD_cossie_wil

Been looking very seriously at getting an E39 M5, and I had a test drive in one today. The MAFS have been done very recently, and the vanos seems to work as described by the test Stu put up on another post....

I have to say, I was quite dissapointed in it, , was lovelly and torquey, comfy and easy to drive, and felt very tight, but it just didn't seem to really go all that well for a 400Bhp car .. Don't get me wrong, as a package it seems great, but just lacks any drama/excitement ...One thing that I did notice is that you can really feel the weight of the car driving it, is really odd, as the chassis is nimble, but hefty at the same time.

Am I missing the point?

Wish I had never been in fast cossies before

Might go and have a look at a few more, or maybe an E46 M3?

You discribed it how I would, Not my cup of tea.

Mark

[TT300]

To be honest i dont know if its just me but their starting to feel really dated the e39 as is the e46!

Superb cars for the money but i would much rather be in an AMG than an M car

[focus st2]

Think you might have expected to much from it
I think they are an awesome car and something i'll own someday but some people do get carried away when they start talking about how good they are

[JTECH James]

they dont make a fuss about going fast, i suppose its very unlike a cossie lol

the best thing about them imo is the fact they are so controlable when completly sideways, perfectly balanced,

[RWD_cossie_wil]

Originally Posted by James @ M Developments

did you turn the dsc off and get her broadside?

No mate, the poor bloke was having kittens anyway , but I suspect it would be very easy to drive sideways from the bit of a play I had.

[JTECH James]

yes!

its also in its favour that you could kick its head in week after week, and never even open the bonnet lol

[Turner RS]

Never been a fan of the older M5, the car does what it says on the tin, very boring IMO. YB is where its at, and i dont feel ashamed to say this on a FORD board!!!!!!

[TT300]

I say save up and get the e60!

[JTECH James]

yes it does exactly what it says on the tin...

186 mph,

and doesnt fall apart,

if thats boring, then i agree with you lol

[Glenn.]

I think these are a nice car they are just a big car with alot of weight to pull.

[james kiely]

when im old im goin to get a m5


cheers james

[JTECH James]

i think i like them and loved mine because i get tired of fixing peoples broken cossies

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tzah_bTIA7Q

[fuzzy]

as its more refined and comfy i think it just feels slower .

[james kiely]

Originally Posted by James @ M Developments

yes it does exactly what it says on the tin...

186 mph,

and doesnt fall apart,

if thats boring, then i agree with you lol

its how you get to 186mph that counts james,and if you were abused for the last 20years by 10 owner you would be falling apart yourself lol

[JTECH James]

they get there very quickly!

and in comfort!

and to make things even better, at no point do you think somethings going to fall off, or think its about to blow up

and you could brake as hard as you could at 186, with your hands off the steering wheel, and pull up nice and straight!

[james kiely]

Originally Posted by James @ M Developments

they get there very quickly!

and in comfort!

and to make things even better, at no point do you think somethings going to fall off, or think its about to blow up

and you could brake as hard as you could at 186, with your hands off the steering wheel, and pull up nice and straight!

are you saying they can cure homosexuality as well james lol


cheer james

[JTECH James]

i wouldnt know

[james kiely]

lol


cheers james

[Ebonycossie4x4]

I think youre on drugs mate...

Making power all the way around the rev range. By the time youre off a slip road youre over 100mph.

Maybe it didnt feel quick because its a quality well built car.

[warrenpenalver]

they are a much bigger car than any cossie so will always drive different. Most cossie drivers spend time and money making thier car as nimble and chuckable and aggressive as possible so of course something like an M5 will seem boring.

Theres no doubting the performance of an M5, high speed, good handling, good comfort and no drama. If thats what you want then fine. if not......

Its a 5 series, its a big massive saloon car!!!

[indycos]

if it made a bit more noise, youd feel like youre going faster! try driving it hard, with all the windows open so you can actually hear something.

[EIL132]

Originally Posted by Turner RS

Never been a fan of the older M5, the car does what it says on the tin, very boring IMO. YB is where its at, and i dont feel ashamed to say this on a FORD board!!!!!!

And what does the YB say on the tin, You're Broke?

M cars will never feel boom and bust like an old turbo, but the M5 is a great all round drivers car. Maybe you just want another Cossie?

[Ebonycossie4x4]

m5s are awesome simple as.

And ive had enough performance cars to know.

[Lambchop]

as per ebony i think you are mental, mate recently had one i was in and for a heavy car it was awesome. i have a 400 bhp 3dr and this felt QUICK. fuck all you snobs it IS a fucking quick car!!

[Robski]

IMO the only M5 to have that is VERY quick(and looks half decent) is the E90 M5.
I've been in numerous E39 M5's and they just seem like a fat lardy well built and quickish saloon....that also these days seem to be driven by(and this is my opinion) people that didn't stand a chance of even renting one back when it was new,let alone them purchasing one......
At the end of the day,a cossie gave you an everyday useable car with supercar(in the day)performance at an affordable price,the M5 just didn't do that....so why would people compare? Maybe because its just that the cossie still holds a decent value compared to its original list price unlike the M5...so these two cars have come into comparison wars/debates due to thier value brackets...but each to thier own as they say!

[Chip]

M5 does two things:

1) reliable, fast, effortless, comfortable transport

2) hooligan weapon



You only experienced the first half, you need to abuse it and get it sideways for the other half

[Ebonycossie4x4]

Its strange because when I drive one it does not feel lardy to me.

It feels so much smaller than it looks, its chuckable and has great handling.

Of course an E90 is better but its 3 times the price!

[Barry_GTi]

I have to admit after reading all the stuff on here about how good they are I was let down when I drove one slightly. Very good car and yes pulled great and couldn't really fault it but I think I just expected too much after all the talk of how good they are.

Same goes for E46 M3 in my opinion, I was seriously let down after driving one of them because I loved them until I did....

[Mr Brannen]

Originally Posted by Charlie Chalk

Why would you go an look at a E46 M3 if you wasn't happy with an M5?

Cause theyre faster, and look much better . simples

[Mr Brannen]

Im glad someone else pointed out what Ive often wondered about the M5, i just expected too much i think, when you think 400bhp you think " fuck this will be fast" but it just doesnt pan out like that , I would love one these days to put little heidi in the back and do my running about in but i just know i would look at it after 4 weeks and think"god this is shit"!

So i`ll probably end up with one next yr now Ive said that lol

[pete mcrash]

only drivern one once.....and yes i did turn the traction off and sport on....must say i was hopeing for more, felt huge on the road....(but at least it starts everyday) and no way would it replace a fast cossie for the buzz

[pete mcrash]

Originally Posted by Mr Brannen

Cause theyre faster, and look much better . simples

......and lets face it....M3's aint fast either.....

[Ebonycossie4x4]

Originally Posted by Mr Brannen

Cause theyre faster, and look much better . simples

An M3 isnt faster mate, I raced untold amounts, At least 2 round to 145 and they were fairly easily beat.

But im sure youre going to tell me none of them were trying.

[thebigyin]

Originally Posted by Ebonycossie4x4

An M3 isnt faster mate, I raced untold amounts, At least 2 round to 145 and they were fairly easily beat.

But im sure youre going to tell me none of them were trying.

seconded, i havent had an e46 get near me yet, its been well proved elsewhere whats quicker and its not the m3

[TurboShed]

Too thirsty for me. Such a big heavy car, why try and make it fast?