mk1 focus rs help on getting 300+ bhp

trevorcossie · 18-10-2009, 10:23 AM

hi my mate has just got a mk1 frs ..mint 50.000 miles ....it has got a bluefin chip ,mongoose full exhaust ,stage 2 induction ...and is been dynoed at just under 280bhp ....300 torque ...he is toying with getting it to about 300bhp or just over ...will he need a a new turbo or what over mods will be needed ...i.e will the cluch and gearbox handle that .matt

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Ebonycossie4x4 · 18-10-2009, 10:24 AM

think clutch is weakest point on these

crazycage · 18-10-2009, 10:28 AM

the AP organic can take much more than that and still easy to live with feels just like the standard clutch.

some people say the standard turbo will do that power but your best talking to your tuner about it.

trevorcossie · 18-10-2009, 10:28 AM

what clutch would you recommend

Ebonycossie4x4 · 18-10-2009, 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crazycage

the AP organic can take much more than that and still easy to live with feels just like the standard clutch.

some people say the standard turbo will do that power but your best talking to your tuner about it.

Standard AP Organic takes over 300Hp easily?

How many miles hard driving would you estimate then?

trevorcossie · 18-10-2009, 10:35 AM

he is not the sort of person who will tear it every where he is a sensible driver

trevorcossie · 18-10-2009, 10:37 AM

who is the best tuner for frs in the south east ,,i hear amd are not bad

mechanic28 · 18-10-2009, 10:39 AM

standard clutch wil be ok not if you keep launching it tho!you will need a hybrid turbo(contact johnfrs)on the rsoc in the focus bit!need to get rid of the cat as well if you have not all ready!also ask about tunafish on there!itsa very good software!mate of mine has these fited and his focus made 338bhp and nearly 370lbf of torque

Ebonycossie4x4 · 18-10-2009, 10:41 AM

i keep thinking about getting a FRS.

if i could get one at lambchop money then i would buy one...

trevorcossie · 18-10-2009, 10:43 AM

its got a tubular manifold aswell if this helps

Lambchop · 18-10-2009, 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ebonycossie4x4

i keep thinking about getting a FRS.

if i could get one at lambchop money then i would buy one...

haha

crazycage · 18-10-2009, 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ebonycossie4x4

Standard AP Organic takes over 300Hp easily?

How many miles hard driving would you estimate then?

yes a new one would but how long do you think its going to last when he says its on 50k ?????????

p-s the up-rated organic is cheaper than the standard one.

mechanic28 · 18-10-2009, 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trevorcossie

its got a tubular manifold aswell if this helps

Ah yer forgot bout that you would need a manifold as well!!what make is your one??

trevorcossie · 18-10-2009, 11:23 AM

not sure on the make of the manifold ....

Ebonycossie4x4 · 18-10-2009, 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lambchop

haha

Lol you lucky Git.

mechanic28 · 18-10-2009, 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trevorcossie

not sure on the make of the manifold ....

can not remember the name of one of the manifolds but they are restrictive to around 300 bhp think its the original tubular one that the car was ment to come with(ford took it off due to a fire during its testing period!)and put the crap one on that it comes with!but cant remember the make!!!

The rsoc is ya best bit for info on these matey

trevorcossie · 18-10-2009, 11:33 AM

cheers i get on there in a mo

S1 · 18-10-2009, 02:35 PM

You should be able to make over 300 with the std turbo but will most probly need an uprated actuator. Also the FRS responds well to boost controllers.

FRS-0197 · 18-10-2009, 03:29 PM

id strongly reccomend live mapping, just had my mk 1 frs live mapped and i was over the moon with the results. in my oppinion bluefin is good but its a pre programmed file that might not be right for what the car needs

my mods are

full scorpion stainless including decat
k&n panel filter
pro alloy charge cooler radiator upgrade
collins cast tubular manifold
gt28 turbo - good for 350bhp easily, i went for this after i blew the gt 25
dump valve
custom map to squeeze every last bit of power out of the mods

i got 275bhp at 1.1psi, i was expecting more but he diddnt wanna set the boost to high, he recommended a boost controller so i can tweak the boost as i like, and said i will gain easily over 300bhp with another 1-2psi

running 300bhp on standard turbo will be a bit stressfull for it, thats why i went for a gt28 after i blew mine

crazycage · 18-10-2009, 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FRS-0197

id strongly reccomend live mapping, just had my mk 1 frs live mapped and i was over the moon with the results. in my oppinion bluefin is good but its a pre programmed file that might not be right for what the car needs

my mods are

full scorpion stainless including decat
k&n panel filter
pro alloy charge cooler radiator upgrade
collins cast tubular manifold
gt28 turbo - good for 350bhp easily, i went for this after i blew the gt 25
dump valve
custom map to squeeze every last bit of power out of the mods

i got 275bhp at 1.1psi, i was expecting more but he diddnt wanna set the boost to high, he recommended a boost controller so i can tweak the boost as i like, and said i will gain easily over 300bhp with another 1-2psi

running 300bhp on standard turbo will be a bit stressfull for it, thats why i went for a gt28 after i blew mine

whats the spec of your gt28?? there are loads

FRS-0197 · 18-10-2009, 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crazycage

whats the spec of your gt28?? there are loads

the one that fits a focus rs

thye all do the same job dont they ?

Rick · 18-10-2009, 04:18 PM

no mate, any t2 flanged turbo will fit the FRS. You have differernt compressor wheels such as 60mm, 71 or 76mm, then different exhaust housings such as 0.64 and 0.86 AR Any of these can be GT28's. Yours is probably a GT2860 with a 0.64 rear.

crazycage · 18-10-2009, 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FRS-0197

the one that fits a focus rs

thye all do the same job dont they ?

why not just say you dont know.

FRS-0197 · 18-10-2009, 06:41 PM

i have no idea what spec it is, alls i know is i bought one that would fit my car

AlexRS2782 · 19-10-2009, 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trevorcossie

who is the best tuner for frs in the south east ,,i hear amd are not bad

Speak to Rob @ SCC Performance in St Albans or Ben @ AmD in Thurrock.

These are the ONLY 2 companies that i will ever trust to work on my custom spec FRS

Stu.H · 19-10-2009, 08:29 PM

Karl @ NMS does work on these now, worth a phone call

01773 836289

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Ebonycossie4x4 PassionFord Post Whore!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (4) Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Essex Posts: 6,370 Rep Power: 11	think clutch is weakest point on these __________________ 2011 Mercedes C220D Sport In Essex Boy White! 360 Gamertag is Robbo Fandango Glad to be Back Viewing you in 27inch I7 Imac Greatness.

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trevorcossie saffy cossie yes Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: london Posts: 826 Rep Power: 4	what clutch would you recommend __________________ is waiting to get another saff ..............

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trevorcossie saffy cossie yes Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: london Posts: 826 Rep Power: 4	he is not the sort of person who will tear it every where he is a sensible driver __________________ is waiting to get another saff ..............

18-10-2009, 10:37 AM	#7
trevorcossie saffy cossie yes Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: london Posts: 826 Rep Power: 4	who is the best tuner for frs in the south east ,,i hear amd are not bad __________________ is waiting to get another saff ..............

18-10-2009, 10:39 AM	#8
mechanic28 10K+ Poster!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (5) Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: london Posts: 13,363 Rep Power: 18	standard clutch wil be ok not if you keep launching it tho!you will need a hybrid turbo(contact johnfrs)on the rsoc in the focus bit!need to get rid of the cat as well if you have not all ready!also ask about tunafish on there!itsa very good software!mate of mine has these fited and his focus made 338bhp and nearly 370lbf of torque __________________ 416.1bhpSTORMTROOPER I am the real doug!

18-10-2009, 10:28 AM	#3
crazycage PassionFord Post Whore!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: merseyside Posts: 4,208 Rep Power: 10	the AP organic can take much more than that and still easy to live with feels just like the standard clutch. some people say the standard turbo will do that power but your best talking to your tuner about it.

18-10-2009, 10:41 AM	#9
Ebonycossie4x4 PassionFord Post Whore!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (4) Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Essex Posts: 6,370 Rep Power: 11	i keep thinking about getting a FRS. if i could get one at lambchop money then i would buy one... __________________ 2011 Mercedes C220D Sport In Essex Boy White! 360 Gamertag is Robbo Fandango Glad to be Back Viewing you in 27inch I7 Imac Greatness.

18-10-2009, 10:43 AM	#10
trevorcossie saffy cossie yes Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: london Posts: 826 Rep Power: 4	its got a tubular manifold aswell if this helps __________________ is waiting to get another saff ..............

18-10-2009, 11:23 AM	#14
trevorcossie saffy cossie yes Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: london Posts: 826 Rep Power: 4	not sure on the make of the manifold .... __________________ is waiting to get another saff ..............

18-10-2009, 11:33 AM	#17
trevorcossie saffy cossie yes Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: london Posts: 826 Rep Power: 4	cheers i get on there in a mo __________________ is waiting to get another saff ..............

18-10-2009, 02:35 PM	#18
S1 ............... Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Essex Posts: 2,588 Rep Power: 11	You should be able to make over 300 with the std turbo but will most probly need an uprated actuator. Also the FRS responds well to boost controllers. __________________

18-10-2009, 03:29 PM	#19
FRS-0197 Vinny Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Teesside Posts: 301 Rep Power: 4	id strongly reccomend live mapping, just had my mk 1 frs live mapped and i was over the moon with the results. in my oppinion bluefin is good but its a pre programmed file that might not be right for what the car needs my mods are full scorpion stainless including decat k&n panel filter pro alloy charge cooler radiator upgrade collins cast tubular manifold gt28 turbo - good for 350bhp easily, i went for this after i blew the gt 25 dump valve custom map to squeeze every last bit of power out of the mods i got 275bhp at 1.1psi, i was expecting more but he diddnt wanna set the boost to high, he recommended a boost controller so i can tweak the boost as i like, and said i will gain easily over 300bhp with another 1-2psi running 300bhp on standard turbo will be a bit stressfull for it, thats why i went for a gt28 after i blew mine __________________ Thanks, Vinny

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Rick 15K+ Super Poster!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: May 2003 Location: Stockport, Cheshire Posts: 15,561 Rep Power: 24	no mate, any t2 flanged turbo will fit the FRS. You have differernt compressor wheels such as 60mm, 71 or 76mm, then different exhaust housings such as 0.64 and 0.86 AR Any of these can be GT28's. Yours is probably a GT2860 with a 0.64 rear. __________________ Bespoke calibration and remapping, OEM & Aftermarket management

18-10-2009, 06:41 PM	#24
FRS-0197 Vinny Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Teesside Posts: 301 Rep Power: 4	i have no idea what spec it is, alls i know is i bought one that would fit my car __________________ Thanks, Vinny

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