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Old 14-10-2009, 01:06 AM   #1
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i have a 1992 mk5 xr3i and am in the process of fitting a 205 yb engine in there on a rst box wit a atb diff how do i get the engine in there what do i make up or modify to make it go in any help or pics plz
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Old 14-10-2009, 01:08 AM   #2
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why why why....


I don't see the point personally, id sooner have it Zetec powered!
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i understand why, because a good condition yb will make 330bhp all day long with off the shelf parts and push that to 380 with a few more tweeks, although i do agree a zetec would mean a drop in job as apposed to custom front and rear mounts needed, custom cooling system, the torque off a yb would chew the bc box, spit it out and ask for seconds, mtx75 would be a better option, plenty out their in rs2k's and diesel escorts. if i remember the conversion i saw, the guy used a t3/4, 4x4 exhaust manifold, for engine mounts using 2 focus rear gearbox roll restrictors, oneoff steel flywheel with focus rs paddle clutch, omex 700 engine management, but i suppose cosworth loom and ecu could be extended to fit. hope it helps, and good luck

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thanks my yb engine was in my saff 2wd i built it 2 group a/ hilclimb spec pushing 400 bhp but the sierrs is no more, i got the 3i wit a blown engine and fancied a challenge so what u recomend i got all yb bits 2 go in and i test fitted a block last nt to find i have to move box over 4/5 inches to get it all in the bay that means new shafts mounts i had a flywheel made up last week just stuck on getting it in the bay any one got any pics or know what i need 2 do cheers adam
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ther was a mk4 escort not long back for sale with a Fwd YB in it. he was still using standard box, not even rs turbo. but i doubt it would last long.
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if you have most of the bits then just do it, would be an animal, just talk to someone like recoprop bout your driveshaft needs then get the welder out!
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Something different i spose would be cool to see a front drive cossie! get some pics up mate. Good luck!
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there was one built on hear but mk4 escort ,think he went throw a few rst boxes tho
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any 1 fancy giving me a hand doing it in my garage on weekends
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Why?

Cosworth engine is tunable yes, but:-

Its going to be a nightmare to fit.

Its Fwd so the easily found power is going to exceed the point of being useful.

You don't really sound like you know what you are doing, so i doubt this will ever be finished.
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i don't see the point of being negative, tons of people are building 300+bhp zetecs in fwd so are they all pointless projects too?
If people were not gona go against the grain the world would be a very boring place to be. if the engine is too much for the fwd chassis then the engine can easily be detuned to enable a better drive
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The zetec's arent as evolved as the YB's. so the YB's at 300bhp are so much more reliable. because over the years people have trial an error'd parts.
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i tryed yet again to fit the engine i even went to the extream of cutting the chassie to move the box over but still no room to fit it in now i got a half moon cut in passanger chassie
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you modify theinner chassis legs to make room for the pulleys, gearbox stays in original position, you then make custom engine mounts so the engine sits in straight and the correct angle

once the engine and box are in then you will need to sort the heat proofing out for where the turbo is going to sit, custom exhausts, boost pipes, water pipes, intercooler and rads

it will be easier to bolt a zetec turbo straight in and will cost half of what fitting a cossue engine is going to be
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pm coswurv think his username was, he built the mk4
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Jusr make the escort rear wheel drive and then you will have a fun car.
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Jusr make the escort rear wheel drive and then you will have a fun car.
Who says shit loads of torque steers not fun.
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i don't see the point of being negative, tons of people are building 300+bhp zetecs in fwd so are they all pointless projects too?
If people were not gona go against the grain the world would be a very boring place to be. if the engine is too much for the fwd chassis then the engine can easily be detuned to enable a better drive
So what your saying is it's be easier and better to use a zetec turbo?

A lot easier to fit, both in the bay and onto an MTX75 box (which is far superior to a crappy b5) plus tuning to around 300bhp should be that hard.

There's a reason people don't use YB in FWD - Whats the point when you've a far easier alternative?
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Who says shit loads of torque steers not fun.

Anyone that has the slightest knowledge of how cars should handle I'd imagine.
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thanks my yb engine was in my saff 2wd i built it 2 group a/ hilclimb spec pushing 400 bhp but the sierrs is no more, i got the 3i wit a blown engine and fancied a challenge so what u recomend i got all yb bits 2 go in and i test fitted a block last nt to find i have to move box over 4/5 inches to get it all in the bay that means new shafts mounts i had a flywheel made up last week just stuck on getting it in the bay any one got any pics or know what i need 2 do cheers adam
i wouldnt move the box, i'd cut away the inner wing so the engine would fit, much easier to cut some tin than to move mounts and make shafts
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Fair enough but it depends what type of fun/mood your into
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imoa pointless!!!only rwd or 4x4!!! you will just wheel spin and pull all over the road if its any intrest to you there is a mk5 with a 4x4 cossie conversion on piston head might be a cheaper to do it and a better
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So what your saying is it's be easier and better to use a zetec turbo?

A lot easier to fit, both in the bay and onto an MTX75 box (which is far superior to a crappy b5) plus tuning to around 300bhp should be that hard.

There's a reason people don't use YB in FWD - Whats the point when you've a far easier alternative?
i did in fact say a mtx75 would be a better gearbox choice, but a big reason you don't see YB's in fwd is because they are expensive compared to a zetec turbo, zetec turbo will still cost a couple grand to see 300+horses, but this guy who started the thread has all the bits to start off with so why not use what he's got laying around?
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i did in fact say a mtx75 would be a better gearbox choice, but a big reason you don't see YB's in fwd is because they are expensive compared to a zetec turbo, zetec turbo will still cost a couple grand to see 300+horses, but this guy who started the thread has all the bits to start off with so why not use what he's got laying around?

i got a little trick up my sleave with the help of nick from spec one engineering cars being picked up sunday and going 4 a trip to birningham to spec i one
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mint mate, if the project gets off the ground, start up a thread in the restorations,rebuilds,projects section, every1 can see how you get on.
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mint mate, if the project gets off the ground, start up a thread in the restorations,rebuilds,projects section, every1 can see how you get on.
cheers cars been picked up by nick on a trailer get it back in november hopfully wit the engine in
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