Bodged up mapping job - maps now added - Page 3

GaryHurn · 26-01-2010, 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rst in breaking

what power you going for on your new engine? chip mapping it for you?

hoping to see around 400bhp, the last engine made 363bhp 382ft lbs @ 16psi though the figures are questionable (in reality it was probably a 330-340bhp) but for the time it lasted it was flying! this all in a nova that weighs around 780kg

i will be mapping it myself

this time

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GaryHurn · 26-01-2010, 11:13 PM

rst in breaking · 26-01-2010, 11:28 PM

cool little car none the less, mate had one lit the tyres constant lol

GaryHurn · 26-01-2010, 11:30 PM

GaryHurn · 26-01-2010, 11:32 PM

rst in breaking · 26-01-2010, 11:32 PM

probally see you at PVS this year mate, or atleast the car if not lol

GaryHurn · 26-01-2010, 11:33 PM

i wont take it to pvs tbh not really my cup of tea will on track around the country hopefully this year

Autoflock Motorsport · 26-01-2010, 11:38 PM

That car looks like nothing but a clean nova to me, oh how I bet you have some fun at the lights with other cars!!!

Bonkers car

well done

GaryHurn · 26-01-2010, 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Autoflock Motorsport

That car looks like nothing but a clean nova to me, oh how I bet you have some fun at the lights with other cars!!!

Bonkers car

well done

that was the idea the shell i got from an old lady only covered just under 11k miles from new paint work is original, just painted underneath and stripped it and put a big engine and 6spd in it

dug112y · 26-01-2010, 11:54 PM

i was gonna get jdm to do mine(mbe/jenvey,N/A) as heard good things BUT not now i wont be . i done bit of research too and all feedback was good,it just shows you.
so who would be recommended to map mbe ...

GaryHurn · 26-01-2010, 11:55 PM

[quote=dug112y;4680928]i was gonna get jdm to do mine(mbe/jenvey,N/A) as heard good things BUT not now i wont be . i done bit of research too and all feedback was good,it just shows you.
so who would be recommended to map mbe ...[/QUOTE

wallace performmace have a good name up your way!

dug112y · 27-01-2010, 12:02 AM

cheers gary...yep heard of them up aberdeen way...3+hrs away from me....i'd rather go south...manchester or yorks etc....motoscope any good or where else in north england?

leecavturbo · 27-01-2010, 12:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaryHurn

i will be mapping it myself

this time

Burnzybubbles · 27-01-2010, 12:33 AM

can someone answer this please i'v noticed there is still values at 0% throttle shouldn't these be 0 at any rev's over tickover speed regarding the fuel i no the newer cars cut fuel off when off the throttle can this also be done through mapping slightly older cars too

Spiky · 27-01-2010, 07:37 AM

lot of power for a small car

where in south wales dude?

also is the weight a "guesstimate"? as 780, is light, and i'm finding it hard to get my 205 to 800kgs

SiZT · 27-01-2010, 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Burnzybubbles

can someone answer this please i'v noticed there is still values at 0% throttle shouldn't these be 0 at any rev's over tickover speed regarding the fuel i no the newer cars cut fuel off when off the throttle can this also be done through mapping slightly older cars too

Yes alot of modern cars do, do that and you can put it into any aftermarket management. The reason it's still fuelling on the 0% load sites is to cool the pistons/bore etc...

Chip · 27-01-2010, 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dug112y

cheers gary...yep heard of them up aberdeen way...3+hrs away from me....i'd rather go south...manchester or yorks etc....motoscope any good or where else in north england?

MSD in blackpool?

dug112y · 27-01-2010, 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chip

MSD in blackpool?

already asked chip, he said need to be road legal,which this aint lol

GaryHurn · 28-01-2010, 06:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spiky

lot of power for a small car

where in south wales dude?

also is the weight a "guesstimate"? as 780, is light, and i'm finding it hard to get my 205 to 800kgs

from newport fella, it was weighed with 1/2 tank of fuel at just over 790 i have the figures here some where i'll dig it out!

GaryHurn · 28-01-2010, 06:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dug112y

cheers gary...yep heard of them up aberdeen way...3+hrs away from me....i'd rather go south...manchester or yorks etc....motoscope any good or where else in north england?

imo its worth travelling to wallace as they do have a very very good name!

Chip · 28-01-2010, 08:24 AM

Agreed on Wallace, known Russ for years and he is definately one of the good guys.

GaryHurn · 24-02-2010, 09:35 PM

it nows runs again as you can see cold start is pretty much bang on just mot and run the motor in before april 8th

JTECH James · 24-02-2010, 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SiZT

Yes alot of modern cars do, do that and you can put it into any aftermarket management. The reason it's still fuelling on the 0% load sites is to cool the pistons/bore etc...

cool the pistons and bore by dumping fuel in and setting fire to it?

surely no fuel at all would cool alot more effectively?

i`ll have to remember this, the next time im hot at work instead of opening a window to let some fresh cool air in, i`ll pour some fuel on my head and set fire to myself to cool down

foreigneRS · 24-02-2010, 10:10 PM

putting fuel in and not burning it would provide a lot of evaporative cooling effect, but it wouldn't do you catalytic converter and lambda sensor much good amongst other things

JTECH James · 24-02-2010, 10:12 PM

and borewash

rs-tuner · 24-02-2010, 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by James @ M Developments

and borewash

which leads to a fucked engine

bigchez · 24-02-2010, 10:48 PM

Does that car have a chargecooler and an intercooler? If so, why?

GaryHurn · 24-02-2010, 11:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigchez

Does that car have a chargecooler and an intercooler? If so, why?

no it just has a chargecooler

the two large rads on the front is an engine rad behind and in front with fans attached is the chargecooler pre rad!!!! its fed via a davies craig 110l/h water pump,

Lilt Laydeeez · 24-02-2010, 11:38 PM

The speed many people seem to accept their car can be mapped in is crazy, so many clowns claiming they can map, and tuners taking literally 2 hours to map a car.
What a joke, you cant get fook all done in that time.

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigchez

Does that car have a chargecooler and an intercooler? If so, why?

It hasnt, but if it had, why not? Most intercoolers and most chargecoolers dont do the perfect job on their own, but sometimes together, they can.

Chip · 25-02-2010, 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lilt Laydeeez

The speed many people seem to accept their car can be mapped in is crazy, so many clowns claiming they can map, and tuners taking literally 2 hours to map a car.
What a joke, you cant get fook all done in that time.

Depends on the car, and the equipment available, if you have a very good base map to work from, and its an N/A car and you have something like a dyno dynamics rolling road that allows you to speed limit the rollers its perfectly possible to visit every single cell on the map in 2 hours.
Generally though I agree with you totally, and it takes manufacturers tens of thousands of hours to get right, mapped in all climates and with every compensation table done to the n'th degree etc.
Most "mapped" cars are actually pretty vague in all but the expected conditions.
My clio is a perfect example, drop the outside temp to -30 and ive no idea if it would even start, as I havent had the chance to test it doing so, so the values I have entered for a -30 degree cold start are literally just an educated guess!

GaryHurn · 06-03-2010, 09:23 PM

dropped this off for mapping will collect next week will report back once collected, i here its holding 25-26psi

AquariousRS · 06-03-2010, 09:42 PM

Where is it at this time Gary?

Chip · 07-03-2010, 12:08 AM

Mech repairs in cheltenham this time, who should do a good job hopefully as they have a good name.

GaryHurn · 07-03-2010, 03:57 PM

yes dave young @ mech motorsport is mapping it this time, he has done a few cars for friends and all have performed brilliantly fingers crossed when i collect tuesday or wednesday everything is ok

26-01-2010, 11:28 PM	#83
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26-01-2010, 11:38 PM	#88
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26-01-2010, 11:33 PM	#87
GaryHurn I've found that life I needed.. It's HERE!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (1) Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: south wales Posts: 1,155 Rep Power: 8	i wont take it to pvs tbh not really my cup of tea will on track around the country hopefully this year

26-01-2010, 11:55 PM	#91
GaryHurn I've found that life I needed.. It's HERE!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (1) Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: south wales Posts: 1,155 Rep Power: 8	[quote=dug112y;4680928]i was gonna get jdm to do mine(mbe/jenvey,N/A) as heard good things BUT not now i wont be . i done bit of research too and all feedback was good,it just shows you. so who would be recommended to map mbe ...[/QUOTE wallace performmace have a good name up your way!

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27-01-2010, 07:37 AM	#95
Spiky Professional Waffler Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (1) Join Date: May 2003 Location: Cardiff Posts: 26,597 Rep Power: 35	lot of power for a small car where in south wales dude? also is the weight a "guesstimate"? as 780, is light, and i'm finding it hard to get my 205 to 800kgs __________________ >>>> My YouTube Videos <<<< >>>> My 205 GTi-6 Track Build <<<<

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24-02-2010, 09:35 PM	#102
GaryHurn I've found that life I needed.. It's HERE!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (1) Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: south wales Posts: 1,155 Rep Power: 8	it nows runs again as you can see cold start is pretty much bang on just mot and run the motor in before april 8th

24-02-2010, 10:10 PM	#104
foreigneRS Testing the future Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: W. Sussex Posts: 16,086 Rep Power: 25	putting fuel in and not burning it would provide a lot of evaporative cooling effect, but it wouldn't do you catalytic converter and lambda sensor much good amongst other things __________________ Nick It takes me less than 9 minutes RP Lab L8 ECU 1998 Puma 1.7 / 2002 Galaxy 2.3 LPG / 2007 Honda VFR800 VTEC / 1972 Honda C90

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GaryHurn I've found that life I needed.. It's HERE!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (1) Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: south wales Posts: 1,155 Rep Power: 8	dropped this off for mapping will collect next week will report back once collected, i here its holding 25-26psi

06-03-2010, 09:42 PM	#112
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07-03-2010, 12:08 AM	#113
Chip * Sierra RS Custard * Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (3) Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 44,611 Rep Power: 51	Mech repairs in cheltenham this time, who should do a good job hopefully as they have a good name. __________________ Sometimes its more fun not to care if things make sense, and just do them anyway! Vauxhall Nova, Mid Engined, RWD, 457bhp, Autronic SM4, GT35R, Quaiffe ATB Diff 2.0 16v - DIY Specced, DIY Built, DIY Mapped, DIY Abused www.VauxSport.com

07-03-2010, 03:57 PM	#114
GaryHurn I've found that life I needed.. It's HERE!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (1) Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: south wales Posts: 1,155 Rep Power: 8	yes dave young @ mech motorsport is mapping it this time, he has done a few cars for friends and all have performed brilliantly fingers crossed when i collect tuesday or wednesday everything is ok

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