Can you re-use standard head bolts on a 2wd cossie?

bigbill · 21-09-2009, 12:18 PM

As above really or do I need new ones? If so where is the best (cheapest!) place to get them? Also what is the best torqueing sequence?

cheers

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Twellsie · 21-09-2009, 12:22 PM

no you cant re-use them as they stretch

bigbill · 21-09-2009, 12:28 PM

Cheers. Where is the best place to get new ones? Im not hearing good things about ARPs!

tabetha · 21-09-2009, 12:40 PM

Loads of places sell these ford or pattern ones will be fine, don't re-use.
ARP are fine if certain precautions are taken, though they work better with fibrous gaskets than steel.
tabetha

costina · 21-09-2009, 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tabetha

Loads of places sell these ford or pattern ones will be fine, don't re-use.
ARP are fine if certain precautions are taken, though they work better with fibrous gaskets than steel.
tabetha

And NOT with a 205 block as they crack

Matt Lewis
woodford

Paul

cossie4i_ · 21-09-2009, 04:04 PM

Just got a new set from PJ Motorsport and they was half the price of everybody else.

Steve

pacwest · 21-09-2009, 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by costina

And NOT with a 205 block as they crack

Matt Lewis
woodford

Paul

Let's hear some more on this. What head bolts should we be using for up to stage III? Or is the ARP stud kit the way to go on a 205?

tabetha · 21-09-2009, 05:39 PM

I've used ARP on well over 30 205 blocks, not a crack in sight.
Any problems are normally due to the fastener(ARP) bottoming out due to being a tad too long, which I must admit I have found more than once, I always measure hole depth.
If they bottom out further tightening can indeed crack the block, it's sort of and sort of not the fault of the arp, depends how you look at it.
Ideally if ARP made them say 5mm shorter it would be ideal.
I've also used these in 202 blocks.
tabetha

RWD_cossie_wil · 21-09-2009, 06:51 PM

Why use £130 of ARP block crackers when the standard £30 headbolts are a lot better, or you can get proper mountune WRC long studs for under £300? Just isn't an option in my opinion, why save a few quid on doing the job properly and risk a 4k+ engine?

costina · 23-09-2009, 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RWD_cossie_wil

Why use £130 of ARP block crackers when the standard £30 headbolts are a lot better, or you can get proper mountune WRC long studs for under £300? Just isn't an option in my opinion, why save a few quid on doing the job properly and risk a 4k+ engine?

Wise words

will dig the pic out soon

Paul

21-09-2009, 12:22 PM	#2
Twellsie PassionFord Post Whore!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (1) Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Nuneaton Posts: 7,197 Rep Power: 14	no you cant re-use them as they stretch __________________

21-09-2009, 04:04 PM	#6
cossie4i_ TT T38 Power Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (11) Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: kent Posts: 20,333 Rep Power: 27	Just got a new set from PJ Motorsport and they was half the price of everybody else. Steve __________________ TT T38, AB07 Cam, Ported Head, Hart Inlet, Spec-R intercooler, Air Injectors, Gripper Diff , Turbosystems Mapped.

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bigbill Regular Contributor Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 322 Rep Power: 9	Cheers. Where is the best place to get new ones? Im not hearing good things about ARPs!

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tabetha BANNED BANNED Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: uk Posts: 24,646 Rep Power: 0	Loads of places sell these ford or pattern ones will be fine, don't re-use. ARP are fine if certain precautions are taken, though they work better with fibrous gaskets than steel. tabetha

21-09-2009, 05:39 PM	#8
tabetha BANNED BANNED Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: uk Posts: 24,646 Rep Power: 0	I've used ARP on well over 30 205 blocks, not a crack in sight. Any problems are normally due to the fastener(ARP) bottoming out due to being a tad too long, which I must admit I have found more than once, I always measure hole depth. If they bottom out further tightening can indeed crack the block, it's sort of and sort of not the fault of the arp, depends how you look at it. Ideally if ARP made them say 5mm shorter it would be ideal. I've also used these in 202 blocks. tabetha

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