Mk2 Focus RS vs Mk1 Focus RS vs Escort Cosworth *autocar vid*

[Pardeep]

Originally Posted by Asturias Fair point but the reality is that most escorts will be 330bhp with newer suspension/bushes and tyres which evens things up! When evo group tested the Mcars they used a CSL with bigger brakes,different tyres and exhaust-simply because thats how most of them are! The newer cars are better though,thats just the way it is. I get what your saying but i don't see why ford would continue making newer parts for a car they haven't made for 20 years. I think it was a Fair test. New beats the Old and thats how it should be. CSL tested was tuned by a Third Party Company not BMW themselves. If it was BMW then thats a different Story. However, i think the Escort WAS the greatest hothatch but the Focus RS has taken the crown again. + That gap between the Escort will increase once Ford release the Official Ford Upgrade package for the new RS.

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[kosman]

if they all had 300bhp the escos would nail it imo.

[Andreas]

Mental note to FRS mk2 owners that are new to the Ford scene.

"It's not very likely that the Escort Cossie standing next to you at the stop light and who you are about to race got 227bhp....."

[danneth]

Originally Posted by kosman

if they all had 300bhp the escos would nail it imo.

omg : cry:

[Crazyass]

Originally Posted by kosman

if they all had 300bhp the escos would nail it imo.

and what if the mk1 and mk2 focus were also 4wd insted of fwd?
"but" and "if"s get's this conversation nowhere.
mk2 frs won. period.

[Crazyass]

Originally Posted by Andreas

Mental note to FRS mk2 owners that are new to the Ford scene.

"It's not very likely that the Escort Cossie standing next to you at the stop light and who you are about to race got 227bhp....."

it also can be applied in the other way..

[Sonic Boom]

Originally Posted by Crazyass

mk2 frs won. period.

Won what? The car to behead after 120 mph?
Rich

[RS Grant]

The car that was ahead after 120mph was the MK2 Focus RS, considerably, and the MK1 Focus RS was in the process of passing the Escort Cossie at that point too...

...I would guess the MK2 FRS passed the Cossie around 60-70mph?


Cheers,
Grant

[Pardeep]

Originally Posted by Sonic Boom

Won what? The car to behead after 120 mph?
Rich

The MK1 focus passed it as 120mph. I say the Mk2 passed it at 60mph.

[danneth]

i can see why it hurts the cossie owners/lovers though

[Sonic Boom]

Originally Posted by danneth

i can see why it hurts the cossie owners/lovers though

It doesn't hurt me, my 3 Door "RWD" would smoke all 3 of them
Just think it's pointless having a straight line race with cars of different BHP as I keep saying the car with most BHP will always win.
I've never said the Mk2 RS isn't a great car because it is and I think the Mk1 RS is the best looking out of the three and the Escort will probably always be the most iconic.
So thats it now i'm laying this thread to rest now, well as far as i'm concerned feel free to continue to argue amongest yourselfs.
Rich

[The Rapid 1]

Well the Escos would beat both to 60 think we can agree that, and the Escos would beat the MK1 over the 1/4 as well deffo as most standard Cossies only do about 80 ish over the 1/4, so if peoples guesses are wrong about the MK2 passing it at 60 and maybe its 80, then the Escos could also possibly beat the MK2 over the 1/4 as well .

Just to put the cat amongst the pigeons how about this clip then, and the guy in the MK2 is deffo trying as he's lifting a wheel into the corners.
Both modern cars etc, just the MK2 costs about £10,000 more !

http://www.autocar.co.uk/VideosWallp...AR=240847&CT=V

Steve

[sirrom666]

That turned out pretty much as i thought, lets face it ford aren't silly enough to build a new rs model that's slower than the one they build 15 years ago. I would still have an escort because thats my childhood dream car but that new rs is a fooking weapon.

[Alps Pacino]

does a standard escort cossie boost into the red on the guage on a standard escort cause that one did?

I like his comments about the escort lol

[CliffRS4]

Originally Posted by Alps Pacino

does a standard escort cossie boost into the red on the guage on a standard escort cause that one did?

I like his comments about the escort lol

I saw that on the the dash boost gauge to

[Lee1972]

Originally Posted by Alps Pacino

does a standard escort cossie boost into the red on the guage on a standard escort cause that one did?

I like his comments about the escort lol

Thats the point I made and everyone seems to have passed it

Anyway, I said my standard cossie never boosted that high. Maybe the test car isnt standard?

[Ebonycossie4x4]

its this remark i like and its so true!

"deep within all of these cars beats the heart of Essex"

[prius]

Originally Posted by COSSIE_LEE

Isnt that a modded Escos though? Mine never boosted up to the red in standard form? And aint the Escos and mk2 supposed to have near identical 0-60 times?

something wrong with yours then there is full throttle over shoot mapped into all escort cosworths shoots right up and then drops back.It looked like standard boost curve to me.
0-60 i thought that was funny near identical times but the escort was gone hmmmm wonder where they tested the mk2 to quote those figure for a fwd
best figure out of 200 runs ?

[Lee1972]

Originally Posted by Turbosystems

something wrong with yours then there is full throttle over shoot mapped into all escort cosworths shoots right up and then drops back.

Sold it now, was like that for 7 years
Shot up to the red when I put a de-cat Mongoose exhaust just before I sold it though!

[prius]

so you had been driving it for 7 year with a melted pre cat lol

[Lee1972]

Originally Posted by Turbosystems

so you had been driving it for 7 year with a melted pre cat lol

Its funny, I test drove the Focus RS and wondered why it felt so much more powerful than my then standard escos!!

Now I know.

[art411y]

my little old imperial blue mondeo would give em a run for their money

[Lee Ivatt]

lol at everyone "pub talking". who cares

All 3 cars in the vid we have to assume are standard, so why argue about theoretical whos quickers when modified.

The article is about the 3 cars as a whole package, not just power power power

I feel the presenter was spot on about all 3 cars.

And its true what he says.

When your in the escort, it fails to live up to its ledendery status. I dreamt of owning one from 6 years old, when I finally got one it was great dont get me wrong but also a dissapointment.

The cosworth is not a lot of car for a lot of money!

If I was in the market for another ford and had £20k it wouldnt be an escort next time round!