removing locking wheel nuts - no key

vroomtshh · 09-02-2009, 04:07 PM

I've 'STUPIDLY' lost the key for my locking wheel nuts. Does anyone have any recommendations on how to remove them?

So far I have tried holding a 19mm nut into place and welding it to the locker. I cant get enough penetration and the weld just snaps if i put any force on it.

I dont think there is enough space to hammer on a socket, and i'm running out of ideas

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clarke5700 · 09-02-2009, 04:17 PM

go to halfords then sell the remover tool failing that bring it to my work

vroomtshh · 09-02-2009, 04:28 PM

I dont think the halfords tool will work. It eats into the edge from what I see, but theres no real space between the nut and the wheel.

A local garage have said they can remove it no problem, so I'll give them a go. Saves me drilling it at least

KnoxyGtt · 09-02-2009, 04:52 PM

Use one of those reverse thread sockets, i had the same problem a few months ago, smacked the fuck out of the lockers first to shock it then hammerd the socket over it, and when you turn the socked off it bites into the metal and lockes itself on

Rax · 09-02-2009, 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vroomtshh

Does anyone have any recommendations on how to get enough penetration as it just snaps if i put any force on .

I dont think there is enough space to hammer and i'm running out of ideas

childish I know but by time I got to "penetration"

smudge_lad · 09-02-2009, 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KnoxyGtt

Use one of those reverse thread sockets, i had the same problem a few months ago, smacked the fuck out of the lockers first to shock it then hammerd the socket over it, and when you turn the socked off it bites into the metal and lockes itself on

Seconded, works a treat!

Or I've seen a mate just hammer a smaller nut onto the locker so it's tight as fook, then just unscrew as normal

vroomtshh · 09-02-2009, 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smudge_lad

Seconded, works a treat!

Or I've seen a mate just hammer a smaller nut onto the locker so it's tight as fook, then just unscrew as normal

Those wld be great but the bolt is approx 1mm smaller than the hole. So theres no space to hammer anythign on or use the stadard removal tools. Local garage can do it so I'll just let them get on with it. 4 hours at it today is enough for me.

Glenn. · 09-02-2009, 06:46 PM

Nightmare mate ive removed a few before but yours sounds like a bit of a chew on.

JTECH James · 09-02-2009, 06:51 PM

drive to brum, and leave it for 30mins...

they will soon be off

mattbibs · 09-02-2009, 06:56 PM

i order replacement keys through work sometimes. if you want to pay£32 (i know!

) and wait a few days i could get you a key!

Little Spikey · 09-02-2009, 07:19 PM

Had a similar problem just last weekend as had a puncture and locking nut had got slightly chewed so the special socket kept slipping off.

Pair of grazed knuckles later, made a trip to Halfords with the special socket and found a multi-faced socket (not normal hex) 2mm smaller than a normal nut £3-4. Hit it on with the patented "pursuader" i.e. a BIG hammer

then attached the long armed wheel brace. Bob's you uncle

Suppose it depends on what nuts (oo-er

) you've got on it. Mine uses an adaptor socket to fit into the normal (19mm) socket on the wheel brace so had enough room to put a normal socket on. If its actually a key you are missing then probably going to be a job to get off without the room to put a socket on. Hope you sort it

thebigyin · 09-02-2009, 07:45 PM

drill straight throught the centre of the bolt, gradually increasing the diameter of the drill as you go.

clarke5700 · 09-02-2009, 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vroomtshh

I dont think the halfords tool will work. It eats into the edge from what I see, but theres no real space between the nut and the wheel.

A local garage have said they can remove it no problem, so I'll give them a go. Saves me drilling it at least

ive never had a problem

bad boy rs · 09-02-2009, 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JTECHSAFF

drive to brum, and leave it for 30mins...

they will soon be off

DanW@FastFord · 09-02-2009, 08:26 PM

I used the Halfords one on a set of McGards with no problems - other than the fact that it was a bloody nightmare to get the tool off the nut each time!

rst in breaking · 09-02-2009, 09:04 PM

reverse thread sockets whilst hitting with hammer to get it to bite on

Ginge ! · 09-02-2009, 09:08 PM

just use a long socket and stop being a pussy,ive yet to have a issue removing them, and ive done a few in my time

rst in breaking · 09-02-2009, 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ginge !

just use a long socket and stop being a pussy,ive yet to have a issue removing them, and ive done a few in my time

pain up the arse to get it out the socket after though i find

vroomtshh · 09-02-2009, 09:18 PM

I'm really wondering if some of you bother reading the thread, or just the title. This isn;t the first time I've done this, and I'm not exactly stupid.

I cant whack a socket onto it. That was my first try. Then welded nuts to it, no good. 2mrw, I'm gonna get an air chisel into it.

And if that doesnt work, I'm taking it to the garage that said they can do it, getting them to agree a price, then handing it over

Ginge ! · 09-02-2009, 09:20 PM

when its loose then tap it off again, you think thats a pain, wait till you have to remove a spherical bearing from a tube when removing it from a rear arm

that was a bitch but was done

Ginge ! · 09-02-2009, 09:22 PM

i cant belive a long socket dont work at all, you cant be doing it right mate as thats all a garage is gonna do

matts1 · 09-02-2009, 09:42 PM

I had a ford locking wheel nut and it was impossible to remove. Tyres places, my mechanic, an engineer bloke all had a go and no luck.

The nut was to cwide in the whole and not deep enough to get anything on it and dig in.

In the end I took it to Ford and paid 40/50 quid to have them remove all the wheel nuts lol!! apparently I couldn't just buy the nut, they had to have it in to see which one it was.

Not sure if yours is a factory job, but was less hassle to cough up than try and remove it.

tejy · 09-02-2009, 10:16 PM

i was getting my tyres chaned once same thing happend to this fellow..one of the guys who worked there just used brute force to get it out.it looked a bit

but he got the job done

jon22 · 08-12-2009, 06:27 PM

i got a problem with locking wheel nuts, theres sum wheels at the scrappy and i want em but theyve got locking nuts, they are outy 3 pin ones, and i actually have the same type of key but it seems my key is too small or the pins are too close together, can anyone recomend a tool for this type of nut? i dont want to waste loads of money on loadsa tools.

i thought about using a socket which is just too small and covers the 3 pins but wont that just snap the pins? please help someone cos theyr cheap and i wan em!!

Big G · 08-12-2009, 06:30 PM

Your the only McJock that cant get McWheels off, useless McCunt

alangti · 08-12-2009, 06:34 PM

park your car in the street and write a note saying free alloys to who gets them off they will be off in seconds pmsl

fraser9764 · 08-12-2009, 06:39 PM

mine come off with a 19mm hex socket the same as the other wheel nuts,
fooking ebay

P_is_for_Paul · 08-12-2009, 06:39 PM

fraser9764 · 08-12-2009, 06:41 PM

never even noticed!

P_is_for_Paul · 08-12-2009, 06:44 PM

RUPERT THE BIG HAIRY BEAR · 08-12-2009, 06:45 PM

i have a set of the snap on reverse thread sockets to get the nut out i put it in a vice and it oput with a bit of scrap round bar thrugh the middle easy

and whats betting when uve got them of u find the locker key

jon22 · 08-12-2009, 06:45 PM

yeah but the outer edge of the nut is round so the socket aint gona grip is it. fuckit im just gona look for some other wheels. any1 know of any 4 stud 14's for a vw?

Y did i dig it up? cos i found it at the top of google and well it mite help someone else who got the same problem .

jon22 · 08-12-2009, 06:48 PM

i just found this site from another forum which looks wicked but they said its £120.

jon22 · 08-12-2009, 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RUPERT THE BIG HAIRY BEAR

i have a set of the snap on reverse thread sockets to get the nut out i put it in a vice and it oput with a bit of scrap round bar thrugh the middle easy

and whats betting when uve got them of u find the locker key

can i borrow yeah?

09-02-2009, 04:17 PM	#2
clarke5700 YES I KNOW I CANT SPELL Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: chingford e4 Posts: 4,878 Rep Power: 8	go to halfords then sell the remover tool failing that bring it to my work __________________ " im special,, excuse my spellings"

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Glenn. Professional Waffler Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (1) Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Darlington county durham Posts: 27,973 Rep Power: 33	Nightmare mate ive removed a few before but yours sounds like a bit of a chew on. __________________ NORTHEAST/NORTH YORKSHIRE ALL FORD MEET ORGANISER pm for details.

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JTECH James Passion for Fords! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (13) Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Devon/Blackpool Posts: 10,763 Rep Power: 17	drive to brum, and leave it for 30mins... they will soon be off __________________ JAMES

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rst in breaking PassionFord Post Whore!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (2) Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: chingford, london Posts: 7,822 Rep Power: 14	reverse thread sockets whilst hitting with hammer to get it to bite on __________________ BREAKING MY ZETEC TURBO ESCORT!!! MK1 Escort wanted!!!

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matts1 PassionFord Post Whore!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 7,387 Rep Power: 15	I had a ford locking wheel nut and it was impossible to remove. Tyres places, my mechanic, an engineer bloke all had a go and no luck. The nut was to cwide in the whole and not deep enough to get anything on it and dig in. In the end I took it to Ford and paid 40/50 quid to have them remove all the wheel nuts lol!! apparently I couldn't just buy the nut, they had to have it in to see which one it was. Not sure if yours is a factory job, but was less hassle to cough up than try and remove it. __________________

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vroomtshh I've found that life I needed.. It's HERE!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Killie Posts: 1,424 Rep Power: 7	I dont think the halfords tool will work. It eats into the edge from what I see, but theres no real space between the nut and the wheel. A local garage have said they can remove it no problem, so I'll give them a go. Saves me drilling it at least

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KnoxyGtt T34 just kicked in Yo Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Glasgow Posts: 877 Rep Power: 7	Use one of those reverse thread sockets, i had the same problem a few months ago, smacked the fuck out of the lockers first to shock it then hammerd the socket over it, and when you turn the socked off it bites into the metal and lockes itself on

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mattbibs PassionFord Post Whore!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Lincoln Posts: 7,595 Rep Power: 15	i order replacement keys through work sometimes. if you want to pay£32 (i know! ) and wait a few days i could get you a key!

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Little Spikey Regular Contributor Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Liverpool Posts: 211 Rep Power: 5	Had a similar problem just last weekend as had a puncture and locking nut had got slightly chewed so the special socket kept slipping off. Pair of grazed knuckles later, made a trip to Halfords with the special socket and found a multi-faced socket (not normal hex) 2mm smaller than a normal nut £3-4. Hit it on with the patented "pursuader" i.e. a BIG hammer then attached the long armed wheel brace. Bob's you uncle Suppose it depends on what nuts (oo-er ) you've got on it. Mine uses an adaptor socket to fit into the normal (19mm) socket on the wheel brace so had enough room to put a normal socket on. If its actually a key you are missing then probably going to be a job to get off without the room to put a socket on. Hope you sort it

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thebigyin BANNED BANNED Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: May 2003 Location: glasgow Posts: 2,935 Rep Power: 0	drill straight throught the centre of the bolt, gradually increasing the diameter of the drill as you go.

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DanW@FastFord Spelling Club King! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (1) Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Fast Ford Posts: 8,796 Rep Power: 14	I used the Halfords one on a set of McGards with no problems - other than the fact that it was a bloody nightmare to get the tool off the nut each time!

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vroomtshh I've found that life I needed.. It's HERE!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Killie Posts: 1,424 Rep Power: 7	I'm really wondering if some of you bother reading the thread, or just the title. This isn;t the first time I've done this, and I'm not exactly stupid. I cant whack a socket onto it. That was my first try. Then welded nuts to it, no good. 2mrw, I'm gonna get an air chisel into it. And if that doesnt work, I'm taking it to the garage that said they can do it, getting them to agree a price, then handing it over

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tejy I've found that life I needed.. It's HERE!! 1989 Ford Escort Trader Score: (1) Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: West London Posts: 1,181 Rep Power: 5	i was getting my tyres chaned once same thing happend to this fellow..one of the guys who worked there just used brute force to get it out.it looked a bit but he got the job done

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jon22 Virgin Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: uk Posts: 13 Rep Power: 0	i got a problem with locking wheel nuts, theres sum wheels at the scrappy and i want em but theyve got locking nuts, they are outy 3 pin ones, and i actually have the same type of key but it seems my key is too small or the pins are too close together, can anyone recomend a tool for this type of nut? i dont want to waste loads of money on loadsa tools. i thought about using a socket which is just too small and covers the 3 pins but wont that just snap the pins? please help someone cos theyr cheap and i wan em!!

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fraser9764 Advanced PassionFord User Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (3) Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: middlewich, cheshire Posts: 2,010 Rep Power: 8	mine come off with a 19mm hex socket the same as the other wheel nuts, fooking ebay __________________ 507.9bhp and 435lb/ft, Supra diff & 6deg rear beam Mapped by TurboSystems and back end by 'a rs licker'

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fraser9764 Advanced PassionFord User Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (3) Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: middlewich, cheshire Posts: 2,010 Rep Power: 8	never even noticed! __________________ 507.9bhp and 435lb/ft, Supra diff & 6deg rear beam Mapped by TurboSystems and back end by 'a rs licker'

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RUPERT THE BIG HAIRY BEAR Too many posts.. I need a life!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: under a fiesta ST near doncaster Posts: 787 Rep Power: 3	i have a set of the snap on reverse thread sockets to get the nut out i put it in a vice and it oput with a bit of scrap round bar thrugh the middle easy and whats betting when uve got them of u find the locker key

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jon22 Virgin Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: uk Posts: 13 Rep Power: 0	i just found this site from another forum which looks wicked but they said its £120.

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