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Old 09-02-2009, 03:07 PM   #1
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I've 'STUPIDLY' lost the key for my locking wheel nuts. Does anyone have any recommendations on how to remove them?

So far I have tried holding a 19mm nut into place and welding it to the locker. I cant get enough penetration and the weld just snaps if i put any force on it.

I dont think there is enough space to hammer on a socket, and i'm running out of ideas
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Old 09-02-2009, 03:17 PM   #2
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go to halfords then sell the remover tool failing that bring it to my work
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I dont think the halfords tool will work. It eats into the edge from what I see, but theres no real space between the nut and the wheel.

A local garage have said they can remove it no problem, so I'll give them a go. Saves me drilling it at least
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Use one of those reverse thread sockets, i had the same problem a few months ago, smacked the fuck out of the lockers first to shock it then hammerd the socket over it, and when you turn the socked off it bites into the metal and lockes itself on
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Does anyone have any recommendations on how to get enough penetration as it just snaps if i put any force on .

I dont think there is enough space to hammer and i'm running out of ideas
childish I know but by time I got to "penetration"
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Use one of those reverse thread sockets, i had the same problem a few months ago, smacked the fuck out of the lockers first to shock it then hammerd the socket over it, and when you turn the socked off it bites into the metal and lockes itself on
Seconded, works a treat!

Or I've seen a mate just hammer a smaller nut onto the locker so it's tight as fook, then just unscrew as normal
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Seconded, works a treat!

Or I've seen a mate just hammer a smaller nut onto the locker so it's tight as fook, then just unscrew as normal

Those wld be great but the bolt is approx 1mm smaller than the hole. So theres no space to hammer anythign on or use the stadard removal tools. Local garage can do it so I'll just let them get on with it. 4 hours at it today is enough for me.
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Nightmare mate ive removed a few before but yours sounds like a bit of a chew on.
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drive to brum, and leave it for 30mins...

they will soon be off
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i order replacement keys through work sometimes. if you want to pay£32 (i know! ) and wait a few days i could get you a key!
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Had a similar problem just last weekend as had a puncture and locking nut had got slightly chewed so the special socket kept slipping off.

Pair of grazed knuckles later, made a trip to Halfords with the special socket and found a multi-faced socket (not normal hex) 2mm smaller than a normal nut £3-4. Hit it on with the patented "pursuader" i.e. a BIG hammer then attached the long armed wheel brace. Bob's you uncle

Suppose it depends on what nuts (oo-er ) you've got on it. Mine uses an adaptor socket to fit into the normal (19mm) socket on the wheel brace so had enough room to put a normal socket on. If its actually a key you are missing then probably going to be a job to get off without the room to put a socket on. Hope you sort it
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drill straight throught the centre of the bolt, gradually increasing the diameter of the drill as you go.
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I dont think the halfords tool will work. It eats into the edge from what I see, but theres no real space between the nut and the wheel.

A local garage have said they can remove it no problem, so I'll give them a go. Saves me drilling it at least
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I used the Halfords one on a set of McGards with no problems - other than the fact that it was a bloody nightmare to get the tool off the nut each time!
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reverse thread sockets whilst hitting with hammer to get it to bite on
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just use a long socket and stop being a pussy,ive yet to have a issue removing them, and ive done a few in my time
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pain up the arse to get it out the socket after though i find
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I'm really wondering if some of you bother reading the thread, or just the title. This isn;t the first time I've done this, and I'm not exactly stupid.

I cant whack a socket onto it. That was my first try. Then welded nuts to it, no good. 2mrw, I'm gonna get an air chisel into it.

And if that doesnt work, I'm taking it to the garage that said they can do it, getting them to agree a price, then handing it over
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when its loose then tap it off again, you think thats a pain, wait till you have to remove a spherical bearing from a tube when removing it from a rear arm

that was a bitch but was done
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i cant belive a long socket dont work at all, you cant be doing it right mate as thats all a garage is gonna do
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I had a ford locking wheel nut and it was impossible to remove. Tyres places, my mechanic, an engineer bloke all had a go and no luck.

The nut was to cwide in the whole and not deep enough to get anything on it and dig in.

In the end I took it to Ford and paid 40/50 quid to have them remove all the wheel nuts lol!! apparently I couldn't just buy the nut, they had to have it in to see which one it was.

Not sure if yours is a factory job, but was less hassle to cough up than try and remove it.
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i was getting my tyres chaned once same thing happend to this fellow..one of the guys who worked there just used brute force to get it out.it looked a bit but he got the job done
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i got a problem with locking wheel nuts, theres sum wheels at the scrappy and i want em but theyve got locking nuts, they are outy 3 pin ones, and i actually have the same type of key but it seems my key is too small or the pins are too close together, can anyone recomend a tool for this type of nut? i dont want to waste loads of money on loadsa tools.

i thought about using a socket which is just too small and covers the 3 pins but wont that just snap the pins? please help someone cos theyr cheap and i wan em!!
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park your car in the street and write a note saying free alloys to who gets them off they will be off in seconds pmsl
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mine come off with a 19mm hex socket the same as the other wheel nuts,
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i have a set of the snap on reverse thread sockets to get the nut out i put it in a vice and it oput with a bit of scrap round bar thrugh the middle easy

and whats betting when uve got them of u find the locker key
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yeah but the outer edge of the nut is round so the socket aint gona grip is it. fuckit im just gona look for some other wheels. any1 know of any 4 stud 14's for a vw?

Y did i dig it up? cos i found it at the top of google and well it mite help someone else who got the same problem .
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i just found this site from another forum which looks wicked but they said its £120.
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i have a set of the snap on reverse thread sockets to get the nut out i put it in a vice and it oput with a bit of scrap round bar thrugh the middle easy

and whats betting when uve got them of u find the locker key
can i borrow yeah?
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