Gartrac gearbox info please

RWD Pete · 22-10-2008, 11:12 AM

Possibly going to buy a gartrac gearbox for my rwd saff later today, he says its a direct fit as it comes with all adapters etc.

How can i tell if its genuine or not? will it have a different casing?

cheers

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RWD Pete · 22-10-2008, 11:33 AM

anyone?

Phil · 22-10-2008, 11:39 AM

I didn't know Gartrac made gearboxes?

It's Czech Mate · 22-10-2008, 11:40 AM

Maybe he means Getrag?

RWD Pete · 22-10-2008, 11:42 AM

thats what it says in the description

Phil · 22-10-2008, 11:46 AM

If it was made by Gartrac I can see it being something along the lines of a Type 9 for early escorts or mk3/4's with their RWD conversions using a live axle. nI'm not sure why you would want to replace a T5 with one if that is the case.

If it made by Getrag then that would be a different matter...

You need to get more info before spending the money!

cozzfather · 22-10-2008, 11:47 AM

http://passionford.com/forum/showthr...ghlight=getrag

RWD Pete · 22-10-2008, 11:48 AM

he says its good for 500+bhp as he uses one on his tarmac rally car, i need a box as mine is shafted so i thought this would be a good upgrade, clearly not.

Phil · 22-10-2008, 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RWD Pete

he says its good for 500+bhp as he uses one on his tarmac rally car, i need a box as mine is shafted so i thought this would be a good upgrade, clearly not.

Sounds like Getrag rather than Gartrac then!

RWD Pete · 22-10-2008, 11:51 AM

he wants £400 for it....

Phil · 22-10-2008, 11:53 AM

Give him a call and find out exactly what it is then some of the more knowledgeable people on here can give you some decent advise!

RWD Pete · 22-10-2008, 11:56 AM

i have phoned him up he says its a gartrac box, he says its good for 500 bhp and it comes with bell housing etc. Thats all he can tell me about it so i thought i would ask on here for more info

jon@work · 22-10-2008, 12:00 PM

this one ?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/COSWORTH-GARTR...QQcmdZViewItem

probably a getrag 265 from a jag

RWD Pete · 22-10-2008, 12:02 PM

thats the one mate, are they any good if it is the jag box?

cozzfather · 22-10-2008, 12:11 PM

and a jag is worth how much ???

RWD Pete · 22-10-2008, 12:16 PM

all i need to know is am i better off with a t5 or a 265

RWD Pete · 22-10-2008, 12:20 PM

fitted to jag v12's and m535's etc so must be up to it

jon@work · 22-10-2008, 12:38 PM

If it is a 265 with the adaptor plate, prop, and gear lever (ie the complete kit), then give it a go, but bear in mind that the box doesn't have a take-off for the speedo, so you'll need an aftermarket one.

RWD Pete · 22-10-2008, 02:09 PM

The box was built by Gartrac engineering & was used in their rear wheel drive mk3/4 escorts usually powered by a 2.8 cologne engine. They are built to stand bhp in excess of 500. I have used one of these in my tarmac stage mk2 escort running a cosworth engine generating 470 bhp (after destroying 2 T5 boxes!) Very strong...comes complete with a cosworth bell housing & prop end so you can put it straight in. (you will have to have the gearbox end of the cossy prop swapped for the gartrac one...10 min job with correct tools)

22-10-2008, 11:39 AM	#3
Phil Jeebus Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (1) Join Date: May 2003 Location: Staffordshire, UK Posts: 8,665 Rep Power: 17	I didn't know Gartrac made gearboxes? __________________ 1969 Mk1 Escort Cosworth 'Gulf'

22-10-2008, 11:40 AM	#4
It's Czech Mate ............ Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: West Mids Posts: 10,351 Rep Power: 19	Maybe he means Getrag? __________________ Just for the 'tards who leave tags the text below is a piece of information, NOT what I drive 1994 Suzuki Swift JDM Suzuka Edition 1.3L 185bhp 142.3 bhp per litre natrually aspirated. The highest specific power output of any production car 4 stroke reciprocating piston engine ( including Vtec kicked in Yo! cars )

22-10-2008, 11:46 AM	#6
Phil Jeebus Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (1) Join Date: May 2003 Location: Staffordshire, UK Posts: 8,665 Rep Power: 17	If it was made by Gartrac I can see it being something along the lines of a Type 9 for early escorts or mk3/4's with their RWD conversions using a live axle. nI'm not sure why you would want to replace a T5 with one if that is the case. If it made by Getrag then that would be a different matter... You need to get more info before spending the money! __________________ 1969 Mk1 Escort Cosworth 'Gulf'

22-10-2008, 11:47 AM	#7
cozzfather C.R.E.A.M. Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (1) Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: CHESHIRE ENGLAND Posts: 4,562 Rep Power: 11	http://passionford.com/forum/showthr...ghlight=getrag __________________ 1992 Homologation German Spec Big Turbo Wolf Escort Cosworth.Fastest Rarest Wolf Escort Cosworth in the UK

22-10-2008, 11:53 AM	#11
Phil Jeebus Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (1) Join Date: May 2003 Location: Staffordshire, UK Posts: 8,665 Rep Power: 17	Give him a call and find out exactly what it is then some of the more knowledgeable people on here can give you some decent advise! __________________ 1969 Mk1 Escort Cosworth 'Gulf'

22-10-2008, 11:33 AM	#2
RWD Pete Banned BANNED Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 1,326 Rep Power: 0	anyone?

22-10-2008, 11:42 AM	#5
RWD Pete Banned BANNED Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 1,326 Rep Power: 0	thats what it says in the description

22-10-2008, 11:48 AM	#8
RWD Pete Banned BANNED Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 1,326 Rep Power: 0	he says its good for 500+bhp as he uses one on his tarmac rally car, i need a box as mine is shafted so i thought this would be a good upgrade, clearly not.

22-10-2008, 11:51 AM	#10
RWD Pete Banned BANNED Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 1,326 Rep Power: 0	he wants £400 for it....

22-10-2008, 11:56 AM	#12
RWD Pete Banned BANNED Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 1,326 Rep Power: 0	i have phoned him up he says its a gartrac box, he says its good for 500 bhp and it comes with bell housing etc. Thats all he can tell me about it so i thought i would ask on here for more info

22-10-2008, 12:00 PM	#13
jon@work Advanced PassionFord User Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (5) Join Date: May 2004 Location: Nottingham Posts: 2,239 Rep Power: 10	this one ? http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/COSWORTH-GARTR...QQcmdZViewItem probably a getrag 265 from a jag

22-10-2008, 12:02 PM	#14
RWD Pete Banned BANNED Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 1,326 Rep Power: 0	thats the one mate, are they any good if it is the jag box?

22-10-2008, 12:11 PM	#15
cozzfather C.R.E.A.M. Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (1) Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: CHESHIRE ENGLAND Posts: 4,562 Rep Power: 11	and a jag is worth how much ??? __________________ 1992 Homologation German Spec Big Turbo Wolf Escort Cosworth.Fastest Rarest Wolf Escort Cosworth in the UK

22-10-2008, 12:16 PM	#16
RWD Pete Banned BANNED Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 1,326 Rep Power: 0	all i need to know is am i better off with a t5 or a 265

22-10-2008, 12:20 PM	#17
RWD Pete Banned BANNED Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 1,326 Rep Power: 0	fitted to jag v12's and m535's etc so must be up to it

22-10-2008, 12:38 PM	#18
jon@work Advanced PassionFord User Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (5) Join Date: May 2004 Location: Nottingham Posts: 2,239 Rep Power: 10	If it is a 265 with the adaptor plate, prop, and gear lever (ie the complete kit), then give it a go, but bear in mind that the box doesn't have a take-off for the speedo, so you'll need an aftermarket one.

22-10-2008, 02:09 PM	#19
RWD Pete Banned BANNED Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 1,326 Rep Power: 0	The box was built by Gartrac engineering & was used in their rear wheel drive mk3/4 escorts usually powered by a 2.8 cologne engine. They are built to stand bhp in excess of 500. I have used one of these in my tarmac stage mk2 escort running a cosworth engine generating 470 bhp (after destroying 2 T5 boxes!) Very strong...comes complete with a cosworth bell housing & prop end so you can put it straight in. (you will have to have the gearbox end of the cossy prop swapped for the gartrac one...10 min job with correct tools)

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