Oil Advice and Recommendation
#124
PassionFord Post Whore!!
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Sudbury Suffolk, Drives: Octavia VRS & XR2i 1800 Zetec track car
Posts: 4,275
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
#125
Glennvestite
iTrader: (1)
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Darlington county durham
Posts: 62,755
Received 1,042 Likes
on
996 Posts
The Valvoline is ok, a middle of the road oil, the 5w-50 is a hydrocracked mineral oil, so not a true synthetic.
There is a problem with the 5w-50 grade that all oil companies make and that is they have to use so much VI Improver (this keeps the oil in grade) to bridge the gap between the 5w and the SEA50, with so much VI Improver the oil becomes week if you like and will drop out of grade quite quick, so it will soon be functioning as a 5w-40 or lower.
I would suggest a shear stable oil like the Silkolene Pro S, but look at the 10w-50 as this will give better protection to the engine when hot, assuming your car is modified and driven hard.
Why did you have to clean the post up? what did I miss?
Cheers
Guy.
There is a problem with the 5w-50 grade that all oil companies make and that is they have to use so much VI Improver (this keeps the oil in grade) to bridge the gap between the 5w and the SEA50, with so much VI Improver the oil becomes week if you like and will drop out of grade quite quick, so it will soon be functioning as a 5w-40 or lower.
I would suggest a shear stable oil like the Silkolene Pro S, but look at the 10w-50 as this will give better protection to the engine when hot, assuming your car is modified and driven hard.
Why did you have to clean the post up? what did I miss?
Cheers
Guy.
Ive just read this and i have had the valvoline in my cossie for nearly a year now.I got 8 litres for 30 quid.I will be going back to silkolene after reading this.
#128
PassionFord Post Whore!!
Hi mate please can you reccomend me
Make BMW
Model 320 carb 6 cyl
Year 1980 W
Engine size and type 2.0i 6 pot m20
Type of use (track/road etc) road cruiser
Modifications that affect stock BHP. Stock
Cheers mate
Make BMW
Model 320 carb 6 cyl
Year 1980 W
Engine size and type 2.0i 6 pot m20
Type of use (track/road etc) road cruiser
Modifications that affect stock BHP. Stock
Cheers mate
#129
PassionFord Post Whore!!
Hi Oilman, can you recommend what type of oil I should be using for my Ford F150 Lightning (5.4 supercharged V8), its the facelift 2003 model.
Thanks
Thanks
#130
mk4RS1900ZVHTcombi
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: brighton
Posts: 60
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
hi oilman,
ford escort 1600cvh on dellorto twin 40s, kent cam kit, 38mm chokes.
engines done around 130,000
i have just taken that engine from my orion that has been laying pretty dormant for about 3months. now in the last 3days i have somehow ruined two hydraulic lifters after some heavy usage.
i topped her up with some 20w 50 when i did the engine swap without thinking about it (d'oh). it had 15w 40 in her already (i think).
could this have caused my problem?
please help! i am going to flush the engine as well, any advice on what/who to use as a flush and replacement oil??
thanks, sam.
ford escort 1600cvh on dellorto twin 40s, kent cam kit, 38mm chokes.
engines done around 130,000
i have just taken that engine from my orion that has been laying pretty dormant for about 3months. now in the last 3days i have somehow ruined two hydraulic lifters after some heavy usage.
i topped her up with some 20w 50 when i did the engine swap without thinking about it (d'oh). it had 15w 40 in her already (i think).
could this have caused my problem?
please help! i am going to flush the engine as well, any advice on what/who to use as a flush and replacement oil??
thanks, sam.
#132
Advanced PassionFord User
Thread Starter
Hi guys
Just a quick explanation for the delay in getting back to you first of all. Something was wrong with our account and we weren't able to post. We weren't ignoring you, but as you have been waiting, please use the code SORRY10 to get an extra 10% off on top of your normal 10%.
Just a quick explanation for the delay in getting back to you first of all. Something was wrong with our account and we weren't able to post. We weren't ignoring you, but as you have been waiting, please use the code SORRY10 to get an extra 10% off on top of your normal 10%.
Last edited by oilman; 11-09-2009 at 11:47 AM.
#133
Advanced PassionFord User
Thread Starter
http://www.opieoils.co.uk/c-656-5w-40.aspx
It will give you good start up protection for those short trips as well as being stable enough to deal with enthusiastic driving
#134
Part of the Furniture
iTrader: (2)
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Dorset
Posts: 180
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Hi,
I've just fixed my van so this really usefull,
Engine make; S2 RS Turbo
Mileage; Not sure. Apparantly had a rebuild around 6-7 thousand miles ago
Mods; JDM T4 turbo running 11-12 psi boost. Big cossie intercooler. Kent cvh35 cam.
Non standard chip. Minimal head work (i.e a little gas flowing). Not sure on the history of the bottom end or the Bhp.
I don't know what oil the van had before I owned it. When I bought I would top it up with 10W40. Since then the head gasket went. I've fixed it and have been using OMD 90 to flush all the crap out from the blown gasket. OMD90 is a semi synthetic 10W30 oil which has a gentle additive. I've changed it twice so far and done around 60 miles since fixing. I would like to know what you reccomend I put in it after this last change. She's quit a hot engine. Thank you.
Oops, forgot to mention. I don't use it for huge journeys and I don't stay at high top speeds for long. I will cruise at about 80-90mph usualy. However I do boost it quite often as it's addictive as I'm sure people will agree.
I've just fixed my van so this really usefull,
Engine make; S2 RS Turbo
Mileage; Not sure. Apparantly had a rebuild around 6-7 thousand miles ago
Mods; JDM T4 turbo running 11-12 psi boost. Big cossie intercooler. Kent cvh35 cam.
Non standard chip. Minimal head work (i.e a little gas flowing). Not sure on the history of the bottom end or the Bhp.
I don't know what oil the van had before I owned it. When I bought I would top it up with 10W40. Since then the head gasket went. I've fixed it and have been using OMD 90 to flush all the crap out from the blown gasket. OMD90 is a semi synthetic 10W30 oil which has a gentle additive. I've changed it twice so far and done around 60 miles since fixing. I would like to know what you reccomend I put in it after this last change. She's quit a hot engine. Thank you.
Oops, forgot to mention. I don't use it for huge journeys and I don't stay at high top speeds for long. I will cruise at about 80-90mph usualy. However I do boost it quite often as it's addictive as I'm sure people will agree.
Last edited by dandannydandan; 11-09-2009 at 11:08 AM.
#135
Advanced PassionFord User
Thread Starter
The quality of the oil means it should last a lot longer than that. Motul give a short change period as it means people buy more.
#136
Advanced PassionFord User
Thread Starter
I'd go for the Gulf Competition 10w-40. Really good stuff, a lot better than a semi. If you want a semi, go for something like the Silkolene or Fuchs XTR with very regular (4k)changes if you are driving it hard. The Gulf is more like a 10K change, so it doesn't work out any more expensive
http://www.opieoils.co.uk/c-657-10w-40.aspx
#137
Advanced PassionFord User
Thread Starter
#138
Advanced PassionFord User
Thread Starter
Go for a 5w-40 or a 10w-40
http://www.opieoils.co.uk/c-656-5w-40.aspx
http://www.opieoils.co.uk/c-657-10w-40.aspx
The quality you choose is up to you, but the Gulf Competition would probably be my choice or the Motul 6100 if you want a cheaper alternative.
#139
Advanced PassionFord User
Thread Starter
Most US cars are now recommended to use a 5w-20 oil due to fuel economy legislation in America and the Lightning is the same. You can also use a 5w-30, but just this morning I had a guy call to say how much better the car is running on 5w-20 than the 5w-40 the garage used in it. 5w-30 is going to be somewhere in the middle of that. This is the only road use 5w-20 we stock http://www.opieoils.co.uk/p-1000-red...oil-5w-20.aspx and it isn't the cheapest, but it is absolute top quality oil. You do get a quart free with each US gallon if you buy it from us though.
#140
Advanced PassionFord User
Thread Starter
hi oilman,
ford escort 1600cvh on dellorto twin 40s, kent cam kit, 38mm chokes.
engines done around 130,000
i have just taken that engine from my orion that has been laying pretty dormant for about 3months. now in the last 3days i have somehow ruined two hydraulic lifters after some heavy usage.
i topped her up with some 20w 50 when i did the engine swap without thinking about it (d'oh). it had 15w 40 in her already (i think).
could this have caused my problem?
please help! i am going to flush the engine as well, any advice on what/who to use as a flush and replacement oil??
thanks, sam.
ford escort 1600cvh on dellorto twin 40s, kent cam kit, 38mm chokes.
engines done around 130,000
i have just taken that engine from my orion that has been laying pretty dormant for about 3months. now in the last 3days i have somehow ruined two hydraulic lifters after some heavy usage.
i topped her up with some 20w 50 when i did the engine swap without thinking about it (d'oh). it had 15w 40 in her already (i think).
could this have caused my problem?
please help! i am going to flush the engine as well, any advice on what/who to use as a flush and replacement oil??
thanks, sam.
I wouldn't go for one of the engine flush products on the market. Most of the time they are too harsh and remove any deposits that have naturally and harmlessly built up in the engine. If you use a flush, you can end up loosening those deposits, then you end up with solid bits in your oil. Not good. The best thing to do is to find the cheapest mineral oil you can, then empty the old oil out, add the cheap oil and let it run for a little while. Drain that and the muck it collects out, then fill it back up with a decent 10w-40.
#141
Advanced PassionFord User
Thread Starter
Hi,
I've just fixed my van so this really usefull,
Engine make; S2 RS Turbo
Mileage; Not sure. Apparantly had a rebuild around 6-7 thousand miles ago
Mods; JDM T4 turbo running 11-12 psi boost. Big cossie intercooler. Kent cvh35 cam.
Non standard chip. Minimal head work (i.e a little gas flowing). Not sure on the history of the bottom end or the Bhp.
I don't know what oil the van had before I owned it. When I bought I would top it up with 10W40. Since then the head gasket went. I've fixed it and have been using OMD 90 to flush all the crap out from the blown gasket. OMD90 is a semi synthetic 10W30 oil which has a gentle additive. I've changed it twice so far and done around 60 miles since fixing. I would like to know what you reccomend I put in it after this last change. She's quit a hot engine. Thank you.
Oops, forgot to mention. I don't use it for huge journeys and I don't stay at high top speeds for long. I will cruise at about 80-90mph usualy. However I do boost it quite often as it's addictive as I'm sure people will agree.
I've just fixed my van so this really usefull,
Engine make; S2 RS Turbo
Mileage; Not sure. Apparantly had a rebuild around 6-7 thousand miles ago
Mods; JDM T4 turbo running 11-12 psi boost. Big cossie intercooler. Kent cvh35 cam.
Non standard chip. Minimal head work (i.e a little gas flowing). Not sure on the history of the bottom end or the Bhp.
I don't know what oil the van had before I owned it. When I bought I would top it up with 10W40. Since then the head gasket went. I've fixed it and have been using OMD 90 to flush all the crap out from the blown gasket. OMD90 is a semi synthetic 10W30 oil which has a gentle additive. I've changed it twice so far and done around 60 miles since fixing. I would like to know what you reccomend I put in it after this last change. She's quit a hot engine. Thank you.
Oops, forgot to mention. I don't use it for huge journeys and I don't stay at high top speeds for long. I will cruise at about 80-90mph usualy. However I do boost it quite often as it's addictive as I'm sure people will agree.
#142
Advanced PassionFord User
Thread Starter
http://www.opieoils.co.uk/c-657-10w-40.aspx
#143
Cossiemodo
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Liverpool
Posts: 3,075
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Oilman the heirarchical menu system on your website isn't working for me, the 3rd "level" menu is kind of cut off and I can't see or make any choices. This affects for instance the Car Oils menu, the second level menu with By Type, By Grade etc is visible, but the next level doesn't open properly. Thought you should know!
#144
Part of the Furniture
best oil for
Make ford
Model capri
Year 1986
Engine size and type V6 2.9i Twin Turbo
Type of use (track/road etc) Road
Modifications that affect stock BHP. 240
thanks stuart
Make ford
Model capri
Year 1986
Engine size and type V6 2.9i Twin Turbo
Type of use (track/road etc) Road
Modifications that affect stock BHP. 240
thanks stuart
#145
More boost Igor!
iTrader: (1)
Oilman the heirarchical menu system on your website isn't working for me, the 3rd "level" menu is kind of cut off and I can't see or make any choices. This affects for instance the Car Oils menu, the second level menu with By Type, By Grade etc is visible, but the next level doesn't open properly. Thought you should know!
Question for the Oilman Witchdoctor:
~110,000 mile Cosworth YB (recent top-end rebuild), currently Stage 1, soon to be Stage 3, daily use, occasional 'exhuberant' driving - I wanted either fully synthetic 10W/40 or 15W/50 for an oil+filter change it's having today, but the garage couldn't get any. The 'closest' they could get was fully synthetic 5W/40. All their suppliers could offer was semi 10W40 or something else which I've now forgotten, the suppliers saying they don't do fully synthetic oil as it ruins the turbo? Eh?
I'd already run it in (after the head rebuild) on 10W40 semi-synthetic, and decided it was time for an oil change. Their suppliers claimed that what they have on file for mine is semi - but I was under the impression that semi was only really used for running an engine in? Is that right? And, if I were to continue running on semi, would it do any damage?
Last edited by cozmeister; 11-09-2009 at 02:38 PM.
#146
Advanced PassionFord User
Thread Starter
Oilman the heirarchical menu system on your website isn't working for me, the 3rd "level" menu is kind of cut off and I can't see or make any choices. This affects for instance the Car Oils menu, the second level menu with By Type, By Grade etc is visible, but the next level doesn't open properly. Thought you should know!
Cheers
Guy
#147
Advanced PassionFord User
Thread Starter
#148
Advanced PassionFord User
Thread Starter
Try a different Web browser or empty your Temp. Internet Files. Works fine for me in Firefox 3.5.
Question for the Oilman Witchdoctor:
~110,000 mile Cosworth YB (recent top-end rebuild), currently Stage 1, soon to be Stage 3, daily use, occasional 'exhuberant' driving - I wanted either fully synthetic 10W/40 or 15W/50 for an oil+filter change it's having today, but the garage couldn't get any. The 'closest' they could get was fully synthetic 5W/40. All their suppliers could offer was semi 10W40 or something else which I've now forgotten, the suppliers saying they don't do fully synthetic oil as it ruins the turbo? Eh?
I'd already run it in (after the head rebuild) on 10W40 semi-synthetic, and decided it was time for an oil change. Their suppliers claimed that what they have on file for mine is semi - but I was under the impression that semi was only really used for running an engine in? Is that right? And, if I were to continue running on semi, would it do any damage?
Question for the Oilman Witchdoctor:
~110,000 mile Cosworth YB (recent top-end rebuild), currently Stage 1, soon to be Stage 3, daily use, occasional 'exhuberant' driving - I wanted either fully synthetic 10W/40 or 15W/50 for an oil+filter change it's having today, but the garage couldn't get any. The 'closest' they could get was fully synthetic 5W/40. All their suppliers could offer was semi 10W40 or something else which I've now forgotten, the suppliers saying they don't do fully synthetic oil as it ruins the turbo? Eh?
I'd already run it in (after the head rebuild) on 10W40 semi-synthetic, and decided it was time for an oil change. Their suppliers claimed that what they have on file for mine is semi - but I was under the impression that semi was only really used for running an engine in? Is that right? And, if I were to continue running on semi, would it do any damage?
10w-40 semi is the minimum spec oil to be used, in a standard car. In a modified YB I would not use anything other then a synthetic. In teh short term no harm done but it will not be upto the job of mcuh hard use.
You should be able to get your hands on Mobil 1 15w-50 locally, that would be ideal.
Cheers
Guy
#150
Advanced PassionFord User
Thread Starter
Oilman the heirarchical menu system on your website isn't working for me, the 3rd "level" menu is kind of cut off and I can't see or make any choices. This affects for instance the Car Oils menu, the second level menu with By Type, By Grade etc is visible, but the next level doesn't open properly. Thought you should know!
http://www.opieoils.co.uk/c-681-car-oils.aspx
Cheers
Guy
#151
Advanced PassionFord User
Thread Starter
If it's going to be running hot then look at this
http://www.opieoils.co.uk/c-659-10w-50.aspx
Cheers
Guy
#153
Advanced PassionFord User
Thread Starter
A good shear stable 5w-40 or 10w-40 synthetic would be my choice. Im thnking this one as a good choice http://www.opieoils.co.uk/p-60120-gu...oil-10w40.aspx if you want one of the best.
Fine for daily to hard/track use.
Cheers
Guy
Fine for daily to hard/track use.
Cheers
Guy
#155
mk4RS1900ZVHTcombi
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: brighton
Posts: 60
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I doubt the 20w-50 caused the problem, but it isn't the correct grade. Stick to a 10w-40 in that.
I wouldn't go for one of the engine flush products on the market. Most of the time they are too harsh and remove any deposits that have naturally and harmlessly built up in the engine. If you use a flush, you can end up loosening those deposits, then you end up with solid bits in your oil. Not good. The best thing to do is to find the cheapest mineral oil you can, then empty the old oil out, add the cheap oil and let it run for a little while. Drain that and the muck it collects out, then fill it back up with a decent 10w-40.
I wouldn't go for one of the engine flush products on the market. Most of the time they are too harsh and remove any deposits that have naturally and harmlessly built up in the engine. If you use a flush, you can end up loosening those deposits, then you end up with solid bits in your oil. Not good. The best thing to do is to find the cheapest mineral oil you can, then empty the old oil out, add the cheap oil and let it run for a little while. Drain that and the muck it collects out, then fill it back up with a decent 10w-40.
thanks for the reply, i got a bottle of 10w 40 mobil super S semi-synth to put in her. any reviews of this? thanks again, sam
#156
Advanced PassionFord User
Thread Starter
#157
mk4RS1900ZVHTcombi
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: brighton
Posts: 60
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
#158
Advanced PassionFord User
Thread Starter
They are ok in a modded engine but will need regular changes as they will break down quicker then a synthetic, but then most modded cars are used pretty hard so again a better reason to use a synthetic.
Cheers
Guy
#159
Wahay!! I've lost my Virginity!!
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Oxfordshire
Posts: 64
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I'd go for a 10w-40 semi-synthetic or the Gulf Competition if you want to upgrade.
http://www.opieoils.co.uk/c-657-10w-40.aspx
http://www.opieoils.co.uk/c-657-10w-40.aspx