Oil Advice and Recommendation
#43
Advanced PassionFord User
Thread Starter
Originally Posted by ballin
bumpin this useful post with another question
not sure which 10w40 semi-synthetic oil to go for in the BMW....any advice over castrol performance, fuchs titan xtr, silkolene xtr and motul 4100 turbolight?
i dont need anything amazing, its just my runaround hence the choice of semi.....only thing which might have a say to the choice is its done 150k and does a lot of short journeys...
any advice Guy/Simon?
thanks
not sure which 10w40 semi-synthetic oil to go for in the BMW....any advice over castrol performance, fuchs titan xtr, silkolene xtr and motul 4100 turbolight?
i dont need anything amazing, its just my runaround hence the choice of semi.....only thing which might have a say to the choice is its done 150k and does a lot of short journeys...
any advice Guy/Simon?
thanks
Youve picked some good oils there. The 10w-40 grade would be the way to go with that mileage and is also what BMW recomend also.
Choice of brand, its difficult, the Silkolene and the Fuchs are affectivley the same oil and the motul is of equal quality, so its a case of personal choice.
Cheers
Guy.
#44
Advanced PassionFord User
Thread Starter
Originally Posted by timrud
Hi mate,
Vauxhall C20 LET
Hybrid Turbo, EDS Phase 3.5, 20psi.
Hard Road Use
Which oil is best please?
Also best gearbox oil for a Vauxhall F28 gearbox please?
Vauxhall C20 LET
Hybrid Turbo, EDS Phase 3.5, 20psi.
Hard Road Use
Which oil is best please?
Also best gearbox oil for a Vauxhall F28 gearbox please?
Model of car and year.
Cheers
Guy.
#45
Advanced PassionFord User
Thread Starter
Originally Posted by alan rainbow
wot about valvoline 20-50 vi it was reccomended to me for running in
Run in for about 1000 miles or so.
What do you plan to use after running in is complete?
Cheers
Guy.
#46
I've found that life I needed.. It's HERE!!
Join Date: May 2003
Location: nottingham
Posts: 1,363
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by oilman
Originally Posted by alan rainbow
wot about valvoline 20-50 vi it was reccomended to me for running in
Run in for about 1000 miles or so.
What do you plan to use after running in is complete?
Cheers
Guy.
#48
10K+ Poster!!
iTrader: (3)
Re: Oil Advice and Recommendation
Make - Ford
Model - Sierra Cosworth
Year - 1986
Engine size and type - 2.0 16v Cosworth Turbo
Type of use (track/road etc) - Road
Modifications that affect stock BHP - Stg1
Engine has covered 80,000 miles with FSH and is a little tired now
Model - Sierra Cosworth
Year - 1986
Engine size and type - 2.0 16v Cosworth Turbo
Type of use (track/road etc) - Road
Modifications that affect stock BHP - Stg1
Engine has covered 80,000 miles with FSH and is a little tired now
#49
PassionFord Post Whore!!
S2rst , running mobil one 15-50 but i think my engine sounds a bit rattly since what about castrol rs heard this is good im runnin 190bhp piper cam/pulley, chip , grs intercooler , 14psi , going to go for something else in a 1000 miles so what do recommend , my engine has covered 5000 miles soince re-build
#50
I've found that life I needed.. It's HERE!!
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: lincoln
Posts: 1,372
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I got a few mates who are quite clued up with big boost engines and theyve told me to put castrol rs 10-60 in my series 2 rst which I have just re-ringed,big ends and mains.I only get 16-17psi when the oil temp is 80 degrees and at idle.Its well run in as well.Why is this oil not right oilman?
#52
10K+ Poster!!
iTrader: (1)
guys read the advice above, saves the poor bloke having to repeat himself a hundred time!!!!
starturbo, castrol rs is not a true synthetic, yet it is priced as one. for the same money they are saying there are better oils (Silkolene Pro S)
rabmcS2, same again if you look above, the Pro S!!!
starturbo, castrol rs is not a true synthetic, yet it is priced as one. for the same money they are saying there are better oils (Silkolene Pro S)
rabmcS2, same again if you look above, the Pro S!!!
#53
I've found that life I needed.. It's HERE!!
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: lincoln
Posts: 1,372
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
ballin,
I am missing something here I think.I have been led to believe that the 1600 cvh is not a close tolerance engine and therefore a synthetic oil is no good for it?What is silkolene pro s?
starturbo, castrol rs is not a true synthetic, yet it is priced as one. for the same money they are saying there are better oils (Silkolene Pro S)
#55
Advanced PassionFord User
Thread Starter
Tolerance is related to viscosity not type of basestock (ie synthetic, semi-synthetic, mineral etc), for wide tolerance engines use a thicker oil, i.e. not 0w or 5w but 10w or 15w.
Silkolene PRO S 10w-50 or Silkolene PRO R 15w-50 are perfect for this application.
Cheers
Simon
Silkolene PRO S 10w-50 or Silkolene PRO R 15w-50 are perfect for this application.
Cheers
Simon
#56
I've found that life I needed.. It's HERE!!
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: lincoln
Posts: 1,372
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Hi Simon.I get the tolerance relationship to viscosity thing ok.I always thought though that synthetic oils were usually the ones with the lower first figures i.e 0W or 5W.I think I am right in believing that newer engines such as an rs focus which is close tolerance is ok to use synthetic in.My 1600 cvh has done about 4000 miles since i put new big ends,main bearings and piston rings in and I have been using rs 15-60.Though initially i did run it in for 1000 miles with millers mineral oil.I have taken a great deal of interest in this coz having blown an engine because of low oil pressure (big end) I dont want it to happen again.It does concern me that even with castrol rs 15-60 I still have what I believe to be low pressure.Hot,idling,oil temp at 80 degrees C its only16 psi?What could I use to bring the pressure up mate.sorry to be a pain but wanna really understand this?
#57
Advanced PassionFord User
Thread Starter
The key here is quality.
A synthetic 10w-40 is far better than a semi or mineral oil. Better lubrication, heat resistance, cooling and cleaning and longer drain periods.
Cheers
Simon
A synthetic 10w-40 is far better than a semi or mineral oil. Better lubrication, heat resistance, cooling and cleaning and longer drain periods.
Cheers
Simon
#58
20K+ Super Poster.
iTrader: (1)
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Essex... and Birmingham!
Posts: 21,512
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
coool
Make Sierra
Model Cosworth
Year 1857
Engine size and type 2.0 Turbo
Type of use (track/road etc) Mostly Track, driven on road to the track though.
Modifications that affect stock BHP. GT35 Turbo, few other bits and bobs, 600bhp+
be interested to hear what you recommend I should be running
Make Sierra
Model Cosworth
Year 1857
Engine size and type 2.0 Turbo
Type of use (track/road etc) Mostly Track, driven on road to the track though.
Modifications that affect stock BHP. GT35 Turbo, few other bits and bobs, 600bhp+
be interested to hear what you recommend I should be running
#59
10K+ Poster!!
iTrader: (3)
Re: Oil Advice and Recommendation
Originally Posted by Steve@SCC
Make - Ford
Model - Sierra Cosworth
Year - 1986
Engine size and type - 2.0 16v Cosworth Turbo
Type of use (track/road etc) - Road
Modifications that affect stock BHP - Stg1
Engine has covered 80,000 miles with FSH and is a little tired now
Model - Sierra Cosworth
Year - 1986
Engine size and type - 2.0 16v Cosworth Turbo
Type of use (track/road etc) - Road
Modifications that affect stock BHP - Stg1
Engine has covered 80,000 miles with FSH and is a little tired now
???
#60
Advanced PassionFord User
Thread Starter
Originally Posted by Porkie
coool
Make Sierra
Model Cosworth
Year 1857
Engine size and type 2.0 Turbo
Type of use (track/road etc) Mostly Track, driven on road to the track though.
Modifications that affect stock BHP. GT35 Turbo, few other bits and bobs, 600bhp+
be interested to hear what you recommend I should be running
Make Sierra
Model Cosworth
Year 1857
Engine size and type 2.0 Turbo
Type of use (track/road etc) Mostly Track, driven on road to the track though.
Modifications that affect stock BHP. GT35 Turbo, few other bits and bobs, 600bhp+
be interested to hear what you recommend I should be running
Tech data here http://www.opieoils.co.uk/lubricants.htm
Cheers
Guy.
#61
Advanced PassionFord User
Thread Starter
Re: Oil Advice and Recommendation
Originally Posted by Steve@SCC
Originally Posted by Steve@SCC
Make - Ford
Model - Sierra Cosworth
Year - 1986
Engine size and type - 2.0 16v Cosworth Turbo
Type of use (track/road etc) - Road
Modifications that affect stock BHP - Stg1
Engine has covered 80,000 miles with FSH and is a little tired now
Model - Sierra Cosworth
Year - 1986
Engine size and type - 2.0 16v Cosworth Turbo
Type of use (track/road etc) - Road
Modifications that affect stock BHP - Stg1
Engine has covered 80,000 miles with FSH and is a little tired now
???
I would suggest the Silkolene Pro S 10w-50, this ester based full synthetic would be ideal. They assist the additive pack in a motor oil formulation because they are surface-active (electrostatically attracted to metal surfaces), so they help to reduce wear and friction.
They are fluid at very low temperatures and at high temperatures they are very chemically stable and have low volatility (dont evaporate away).
They also help to prevent hardening and cracking of oil seals at high temperatures making them ideal for tuned turbo engines.
Cheers
Guy.
#63
Advanced PassionFord User
Thread Starter
Originally Posted by Moonie
S2 Escort Turbo (1600cvh) just rebuilt and run in.
Aprox 200bhp, driven quite hard
What you recomend?
Ta
Aprox 200bhp, driven quite hard
What you recomend?
Ta
E-mail me for prices at sales@opieoils.co.uk
Cheers
Guy.
#66
Advanced PassionFord User
Thread Starter
Don't forget this thread is here for all your oil questions.
Keep it in one place and it will build to a useful FAQ thread.
Cheers
Simon
Keep it in one place and it will build to a useful FAQ thread.
Cheers
Simon
#71
PassionFord Post Troll
Make: Ford Escort
Model: Mk6 Si
Year: 1997
Engine size and type: N/A 16v 1.8 Zetec
Type of use (track/road etc): Road
Modifications that affect stock BHP: 158bhp 149.5lb ft (standard 115ps)
Model: Mk6 Si
Year: 1997
Engine size and type: N/A 16v 1.8 Zetec
Type of use (track/road etc): Road
Modifications that affect stock BHP: 158bhp 149.5lb ft (standard 115ps)
#72
Advanced PassionFord User
Thread Starter
You need a 5w-30, most of these are semi synthetic but we would suggest a fully synthetic as it is modded.
Have a look at the Motul 300v 5w-30 and the Motul 8100 5w-30.
Cheers
Guy.
Have a look at the Motul 300v 5w-30 and the Motul 8100 5w-30.
Cheers
Guy.
#73
PassionFord Post Troll
Originally Posted by oilman
You need a 5w-30, most of these are semi synthetic but we would suggest a fully synthetic as it is modded.
Have a look at the Motul 300v 5w-30 and the Motul 8100 5w-30.
Cheers
Guy.
Have a look at the Motul 300v 5w-30 and the Motul 8100 5w-30.
Cheers
Guy.
#74
I've found that life I needed.. It's HERE!!
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Worcsetershire
Posts: 1,048
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by oilman
To run in use a good 15w-50 semi synthetic.
Once run in I would go for the Silkolene Pro S 10w-50.
Cheers
Guy.
Once run in I would go for the Silkolene Pro S 10w-50.
Cheers
Guy.
Wont let me log in on your site password wrong for some
reason
#75
Too many posts.. I need a life!!
Originally Posted by rocky_robin
1.8 ZVH. Stg2 Turbo. Track/Fast road. Around the 200bhp mark.
It's in an XR2, which will confuse matters in terms of age!
It's in an XR2, which will confuse matters in terms of age!
#76
I've found that life I needed.. It's HERE!!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: West Sussex
Posts: 1,058
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Hi mate,
2wd Saff Cossie, 350bhp and 350ft/lb?
And if you recommend anything other than Mobil 1 Motorsport 15w 50 (which you obviously will) then could you please state why as I'd be very interested to know
Cheers,
Charlie
2wd Saff Cossie, 350bhp and 350ft/lb?
And if you recommend anything other than Mobil 1 Motorsport 15w 50 (which you obviously will) then could you please state why as I'd be very interested to know
Cheers,
Charlie
#77
10K+ Poster!!
Make Austin
Model MINI
Year 1972 engine 1986
Engine size and type 1275 A-series Turbo
Type of use (track/road etc) road and track
Modifications that affect stock BHP.
well its up from 94 bhp to 170bhp - so modified everything! Forged pistons - hybrid t3.
Thanks
Alex
Model MINI
Year 1972 engine 1986
Engine size and type 1275 A-series Turbo
Type of use (track/road etc) road and track
Modifications that affect stock BHP.
well its up from 94 bhp to 170bhp - so modified everything! Forged pistons - hybrid t3.
Thanks
Alex
#78
PassionFord Post Whore!!
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Kent
Posts: 5,719
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by J871yhk
Engine size and type 1275 A-series Turbo
its up from 94 bhp to 170bhp - so modified everything! Forged pistons - hybrid t3.
its up from 94 bhp to 170bhp - so modified everything! Forged pistons - hybrid t3.
Seriously tho, what boost would you need to run to make 170bhp from a 1.3 A series turbo ?
#79
Advanced PassionFord User
Thread Starter
Originally Posted by rocky_robin
Originally Posted by rocky_robin
1.8 ZVH. Stg2 Turbo. Track/Fast road. Around the 200bhp mark.
It's in an XR2, which will confuse matters in terms of age!
It's in an XR2, which will confuse matters in terms of age!
Cheers
Guy.
#80
Advanced PassionFord User
Thread Starter
Originally Posted by J871yhk
Make Austin
Model MINI
Year 1972 engine 1986
Engine size and type 1275 A-series Turbo
Type of use (track/road etc) road and track
Modifications that affect stock BHP.
well its up from 94 bhp to 170bhp - so modified everything! Forged pistons - hybrid t3.
Thanks
Alex
Model MINI
Year 1972 engine 1986
Engine size and type 1275 A-series Turbo
Type of use (track/road etc) road and track
Modifications that affect stock BHP.
well its up from 94 bhp to 170bhp - so modified everything! Forged pistons - hybrid t3.
Thanks
Alex
However
There is one synthetic which works very well in the mini engine/gearbox setup which is the Silkolene Pro R 15w-50, for a hard used/tracked car this would be my choice.
Cheers
Guy.