Fitting a new roof skin.

fraser9764 · 22-05-2008, 08:52 AM

I have just bought myself a new mini as a project, the main problem with it is that its rusted badly around the sun roof.
I've had a quick google, and a few people 'in the know' have told me that the roof skin is the one replacement panel you can't buy although i did find one place that does them, but at £220 quid they can keep it!!
i was originaly going to just cut the rot out and rivit a plate over the hole, smooth the edges in and paint and sticker up but thats never going to look great.

so i was thinking... can i find a mini breakers with a rotton mini with a good non sunroof skin, cut the roof off from the bottom of the gutters where it can hardly be seen, cut the rot out of mine and bond it over the top with this stuff
http://www.jamestowndistributors.com...ct.do?pid=6781
or is that unsafe?

its having a rollcage too btw.

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fraser9764 · 22-05-2008, 12:49 PM

anyone? stupid idea then?

COMEDY DAN · 22-05-2008, 12:52 PM

You can buy a complete mini that is not rotten for a few quid from a car auction.

Why weld anything, just buy one that isnt rotten, seems a lot more simple and cheaper.

rostill2007 · 22-05-2008, 12:53 PM

why not weld in the roof skin you cut off the rotten mini? it should be safe to bond it in though as long as the bonding agent is strong enough jaguar roof are only bonded in aswell as other cars hope this helps

fraser9764 · 22-05-2008, 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by COMEDY DAN

You can buy a complete mini that is not rotten for a few quid from a car auction.

Why weld anything, just buy one that isnt rotten, seems a lot more simple and cheaper.

i dont like to do stuff the easy way

Quote:

Originally Posted by rostill2007

why not weld in the roof skin you cut off the rotten mini? it should be safe to bond it in though as long as the bonding agent is strong enough jaguar roof are only bonded in aswell as other cars hope this helps .

thats what i was thinking, if they can bond plane wings on, im sure it will do for a mini roof!

rostill2007 · 22-05-2008, 01:27 PM

cant see why not as long as i doesnt look like its bodged i suppose

fraser9764 · 22-05-2008, 01:33 PM

you would be able to see the join if you looked down into the gutter but its not going to stand out. TBH if you made a nice job of the edge all the way round there is no reason why it wouldn't look factory. I think its a plan, just got to find a good condition roof skin now

dunketh · 22-05-2008, 01:34 PM

Interesting idea.
Afaik Minor Roofs are only attached by press fitting - being aluminium. The Traveller roofs are held on with pin nails straight into the wood!!!

So, what you're sugesting sounds perfectly OK in terms of 'good british engineering'. I imagine Morris/Austin would do the same if they'd made the mini these days.

Besides, if you have a cage you wont need the negligable strength the roof 'skin' offers. Just make sure its all smoothed so finnicky MOT men cant moan.

smudgerz · 22-05-2008, 03:59 PM

Bonding would be fine mate. If you need some metal bond, give me a shout. I demo Fusor products (plastic repair and metal bond)

Smudge

fraser9764 · 22-05-2008, 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smudgerz

Bonding would be fine mate. If you need some metal bond, give me a shout. I demo Fusor products (plastic repair and metal bond)

Smudge

Nice one

, i'll remember that, im going to a local mini breakers on saturday to see if i can get a roof skin so you may well have a pm on saturday afternoon

smudgerz · 22-05-2008, 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fraser9764

Nice one

, i'll remember that, im going to a local mini breakers on saturday to see if i can get a roof skin so you may well have a pm on saturday afternoon

No worrys,

Smudge

**Sanchez_** · 22-05-2008, 04:15 PM

chips into his minis pm him

Rick · 22-05-2008, 04:32 PM

U can get carbon roofs

fraser9764 · 22-05-2008, 10:37 PM

http://www.minispeed.co.uk/classic/i...duct&id=ccf-14
£433.35 plus the dreaded!

I think thats that idea firmly thown out the window!!

EIL132 · 22-05-2008, 10:57 PM

Mini in the foreground had a new roof fitted, i.e. chopped 3/4 up, dipped and then etched primed. Not a problem

22-05-2008, 12:49 PM	#2
fraser9764 Advanced PassionFord User Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (3) Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: middlewich, cheshire Posts: 2,010 Rep Power: 8	anyone? stupid idea then? __________________ 507.9bhp and 435lb/ft, Supra diff & 6deg rear beam Mapped by TurboSystems and back end by 'a rs licker'

22-05-2008, 12:52 PM	#3
COMEDY DAN No1 Blower. Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Milton Keynes Posts: 6,742 Rep Power: 14	You can buy a complete mini that is not rotten for a few quid from a car auction. Why weld anything, just buy one that isnt rotten, seems a lot more simple and cheaper. __________________ "none of the other penguins liked him" <--- Real tears.

22-05-2008, 12:53 PM	#4
rostill2007 I've found that life I needed.. It's HERE!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: birmingham Posts: 1,097 Rep Power: 6	why not weld in the roof skin you cut off the rotten mini? it should be safe to bond it in though as long as the bonding agent is strong enough jaguar roof are only bonded in aswell as other cars hope this helps __________________ cheeRS james i hope the above post was useful if not i will try harder next time if im in the mood wanted escort gti side skirts in red

22-05-2008, 01:27 PM	#6
rostill2007 I've found that life I needed.. It's HERE!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: birmingham Posts: 1,097 Rep Power: 6	cant see why not as long as i doesnt look like its bodged i suppose __________________ cheeRS james i hope the above post was useful if not i will try harder next time if im in the mood wanted escort gti side skirts in red

22-05-2008, 01:33 PM	#7
fraser9764 Advanced PassionFord User Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (3) Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: middlewich, cheshire Posts: 2,010 Rep Power: 8	you would be able to see the join if you looked down into the gutter but its not going to stand out. TBH if you made a nice job of the edge all the way round there is no reason why it wouldn't look factory. I think its a plan, just got to find a good condition roof skin now __________________ 507.9bhp and 435lb/ft, Supra diff & 6deg rear beam Mapped by TurboSystems and back end by 'a rs licker'

22-05-2008, 01:34 PM	#8
dunketh Chief Iron Oxide Farmer. 1987 Ford Escort Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Portland Posts: 1,319 Rep Power: 5	Interesting idea. Afaik Minor Roofs are only attached by press fitting - being aluminium. The Traveller roofs are held on with pin nails straight into the wood!!! So, what you're sugesting sounds perfectly OK in terms of 'good british engineering'. I imagine Morris/Austin would do the same if they'd made the mini these days. Besides, if you have a cage you wont need the negligable strength the roof 'skin' offers. Just make sure its all smoothed so finnicky MOT men cant moan. __________________

22-05-2008, 03:59 PM	#9
smudgerz I've found that life I needed.. It's HERE!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Corby, the land that time forgot..... Posts: 1,059 Rep Power: 9	Bonding would be fine mate. If you need some metal bond, give me a shout. I demo Fusor products (plastic repair and metal bond) Smudge Last edited by smudgerz; 22-05-2008 at 04:00 PM.

22-05-2008, 04:15 PM	#12
Sanchez_ Super Moderator Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (3) Join Date: May 2004 Location: south east Posts: 15,303 Rep Power: 23	chips into his minis pm him __________________

22-05-2008, 04:32 PM	#13
Rick 15K+ Super Poster!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: May 2003 Location: Stockport, Cheshire Posts: 15,560 Rep Power: 24	U can get carbon roofs __________________ Bespoke calibration and remapping, OEM & Aftermarket management

22-05-2008, 10:37 PM	#14
fraser9764 Advanced PassionFord User Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (3) Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: middlewich, cheshire Posts: 2,010 Rep Power: 8	http://www.minispeed.co.uk/classic/i...duct&id=ccf-14 £433.35 plus the dreaded! I think thats that idea firmly thown out the window!! __________________ 507.9bhp and 435lb/ft, Supra diff & 6deg rear beam Mapped by TurboSystems and back end by 'a rs licker'

22-05-2008, 10:57 PM	#15
EIL132 PassionFord Post Whore!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Edinburgh Posts: 6,379 Rep Power: 15	Mini in the foreground had a new roof fitted, i.e. chopped 3/4 up, dipped and then etched primed. Not a problem __________________ James

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