whos clued up on efi engine looms?

Roosie · 29-09-2004, 02:10 PM

wiring all mine into the erst (frst loom)
i have 3 spare trianguler connectors is this correct were do they go or what they for??

cheers

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turbo.jon · 29-09-2004, 02:16 PM

hi mate dont no if he can help but pm 1.9 xr2 on 40's as i no he done efi conversion on his series 2.

Roosie · 29-09-2004, 02:18 PM

chhers hopefully he will see this post

Roosie · 29-09-2004, 03:00 PM

mark m · 29-09-2004, 03:10 PM

2 digonistioc contoctors (spellig) white black taped 2 gether and possibley a speed sencor wire

Project ST · 29-09-2004, 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mark m

2 digonistioc contoctors (spellig) white black taped 2 gether and possibley a speed sencor wire

That's exactly what I was going to suggest. Not sure if it's the same on a scort but on a Fiesta the two diagnostic conns (a white and a black plug) come down to the battery area - front n/s of the engine bay on a scort where the MFi metering head would go. The other connector comes down between the inlet and the brake servo.

If you're still stuck, list up the wire colours of the plugs.

/Munk

Adam_BlackRS · 29-09-2004, 04:17 PM

Can you tell which ones it is from this pic of mine ?????

Twins · 29-09-2004, 04:20 PM

pm gadget im sure he will br able to help ya

CraigN · 29-09-2004, 04:22 PM

the 2 black with red plugs in are diag ports as said above

if the other comes off by the EDIS module it is for the speed sensor

Roosie · 29-09-2004, 05:20 PM

cheers

so speed sensor whats that for?? or were does that go?

Roosie · 29-09-2004, 05:22 PM

is the one for the Crank sensor the one that right on its own with alon bit of lead with a plastic sleeve at teh end of the connector? i take it???

Project ST · 29-09-2004, 06:47 PM

Crank sensor is on far bottom left. This one is critical so make sure the insulation is good and the wiring has virtually zero resistance between the plug and the connection at the E-DIS module or ECU (can't remember which but fairly sure it comes down to the E-DIS).

Any EFi/CFi/SEFi injection speed sensor can be used - it loves on top of the gearbox where the speedo cable screws in and the cable then screws into the top of it, and it's used to keep engine revs up while moving along (supposed to make low speed driving smoother) - it's not vital for the engine to run well.

Last point - make sure you use the FRST inlet air temp sensor - it uses a Weber (injector-style) plug instead of the Ford one used on the ERST and n/a engines - if you've got the wrong sensor, your engine will run pretty flat as the ECU will retard ignition far earlier than it should.

hth - Munki

Roosie · 29-09-2004, 07:01 PM

ok cheers whats the one on the far botom right then??

scort · 29-09-2004, 07:20 PM

Would try and use an EFi XR3i loom mate if I were you.

Steve

Roosie · 29-09-2004, 07:21 PM

shouldnt be no different mate frst just as good

L33 BYT · 29-09-2004, 07:23 PM

How you gettin onwith track car Roosie.

scort · 29-09-2004, 07:27 PM

It is but locates the ECU in a real awkward place. The EEC ECU's are not weatherproofed like the original RST ECU's.

It Also means you have to splice the ERST loom of its wiring.

Thus leaving a dodgy looking engine bay.

However, your right, it will work.

www.chardcars.co.uk

Steve

Rolls · 29-09-2004, 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roosie

ok cheers whats the one on the far botom right then??

ama ,and EDIS earth- make sure this has a good earth, or the car won't spark!

Roosie · 29-09-2004, 08:06 PM

its more or less done lee just need this loom wired ie the 8 wires togot the relays ect

im putting ecu in same place were old one was

Roosie · 29-09-2004, 08:07 PM

AMA???????????????

Rolls · 29-09-2004, 08:14 PM

amal, soz!

Roosie · 29-09-2004, 08:16 PM

i mean on that pic rolls amal aint that one!!!

Bread · 29-09-2004, 08:18 PM

mine is xr2i loom im mk4 escort

Rolls · 29-09-2004, 08:20 PM

it defo looks like the amal, with the oil pressure sensor next to it, and the map, and co2 pot above it...... above that is the ISCV connection...............

1.9 xr2 on 40's · 29-09-2004, 10:33 PM

deffo the amel 1, called a 'boost control valve' in the haynes

on mine the ecu is tucked behind the battery
works but not ideal, in the car via a xr3i efi loom would be better, when i done it, it was just to get the car mot'd and i didnt have a erst lump to hand but i did have a frst 1

mite go back to erst when this lump blows, which im sure it wil

Project ST · 30-09-2004, 02:29 AM

Hope this helps you mate:

/Munki

Adam_BlackRS · 30-09-2004, 06:26 AM

Project ST,

Yes, them loose wires are for the immobiliser, removed now.

Roosie · 30-09-2004, 07:17 AM

thats all sorted cheers mate

CraigN · 30-09-2004, 08:01 AM

the speed sensor actually leans off fueling at certain revs according to simon @ SECS tho

dunno how true this is

but it was meant to be there so i let it be

29-09-2004, 02:16 PM	#2
turbo.jon Advanced PassionFord User Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: lowestoft/suffolk Posts: 1,640 Rep Power: 11	hi mate dont no if he can help but pm 1.9 xr2 on 40's as i no he done efi conversion on his series 2. __________________ (cars now sold)

29-09-2004, 04:17 PM	#7
Adam_BlackRS Ex Ford Man Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: May 2003 Location: West Sussex Posts: 6,725 Rep Power: 16	Can you tell which ones it is from this pic of mine ????? __________________ Audi S4 - 362.7bhp & 406.5lb-ft

29-09-2004, 04:20 PM	#8
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29-09-2004, 06:47 PM	#12
Project ST Too many posts.. I need a life!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: May 2003 Location: Portsmouth Posts: 863 Rep Power: 10	Crank sensor is on far bottom left. This one is critical so make sure the insulation is good and the wiring has virtually zero resistance between the plug and the connection at the E-DIS module or ECU (can't remember which but fairly sure it comes down to the E-DIS). Any EFi/CFi/SEFi injection speed sensor can be used - it loves on top of the gearbox where the speedo cable screws in and the cable then screws into the top of it, and it's used to keep engine revs up while moving along (supposed to make low speed driving smoother) - it's not vital for the engine to run well. Last point - make sure you use the FRST inlet air temp sensor - it uses a Weber (injector-style) plug instead of the Ford one used on the ERST and n/a engines - if you've got the wrong sensor, your engine will run pretty flat as the ECU will retard ignition far earlier than it should. hth - Munki __________________ Noodle...

29-09-2004, 07:20 PM	#14
scort Regular Contributor Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Chard, Somerset Posts: 334 Rep Power: 9	Would try and use an EFi XR3i loom mate if I were you. Steve __________________ An ounce of prevention, provides a pound of cure.....

29-09-2004, 02:18 PM	#3
Roosie 500bhp Cosworth in making 1994 Ford Escort My Garage Trader Score: (8) Join Date: May 2003 Location: Brandon Posts: 9,000 Rep Power: 19	chhers hopefully he will see this post

29-09-2004, 03:00 PM	#4
Roosie 500bhp Cosworth in making 1994 Ford Escort My Garage Trader Score: (8) Join Date: May 2003 Location: Brandon Posts: 9,000 Rep Power: 19

29-09-2004, 03:10 PM	#5
mark m Regular Contributor Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 200 Rep Power: 10	2 digonistioc contoctors (spellig) white black taped 2 gether and possibley a speed sencor wire

29-09-2004, 04:22 PM	#9
CraigN PassionFord Post Whore!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: May 2003 Location: Bristol Posts: 6,208 Rep Power: 16	the 2 black with red plugs in are diag ports as said above if the other comes off by the EDIS module it is for the speed sensor

29-09-2004, 05:20 PM	#10
Roosie 500bhp Cosworth in making 1994 Ford Escort My Garage Trader Score: (8) Join Date: May 2003 Location: Brandon Posts: 9,000 Rep Power: 19	cheers so speed sensor whats that for?? or were does that go?

29-09-2004, 05:22 PM	#11
Roosie 500bhp Cosworth in making 1994 Ford Escort My Garage Trader Score: (8) Join Date: May 2003 Location: Brandon Posts: 9,000 Rep Power: 19	is the one for the Crank sensor the one that right on its own with alon bit of lead with a plastic sleeve at teh end of the connector? i take it???

29-09-2004, 07:01 PM	#13
Roosie 500bhp Cosworth in making 1994 Ford Escort My Garage Trader Score: (8) Join Date: May 2003 Location: Brandon Posts: 9,000 Rep Power: 19	ok cheers whats the one on the far botom right then??

29-09-2004, 07:21 PM	#15
Roosie 500bhp Cosworth in making 1994 Ford Escort My Garage Trader Score: (8) Join Date: May 2003 Location: Brandon Posts: 9,000 Rep Power: 19	shouldnt be no different mate frst just as good

29-09-2004, 07:23 PM	#16
L33 BYT PassionFord Post Whore!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: SUFFOLK Posts: 7,483 Rep Power: 17	How you gettin onwith track car Roosie. __________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Regards Lee

29-09-2004, 07:27 PM	#17
scort Regular Contributor Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Chard, Somerset Posts: 334 Rep Power: 9	It is but locates the ECU in a real awkward place. The EEC ECU's are not weatherproofed like the original RST ECU's. It Also means you have to splice the ERST loom of its wiring. Thus leaving a dodgy looking engine bay. However, your right, it will work. www.chardcars.co.uk Steve __________________ An ounce of prevention, provides a pound of cure.....

29-09-2004, 08:06 PM	#19
Roosie 500bhp Cosworth in making 1994 Ford Escort My Garage Trader Score: (8) Join Date: May 2003 Location: Brandon Posts: 9,000 Rep Power: 19	its more or less done lee just need this loom wired ie the 8 wires togot the relays ect im putting ecu in same place were old one was

29-09-2004, 08:07 PM	#20
Roosie 500bhp Cosworth in making 1994 Ford Escort My Garage Trader Score: (8) Join Date: May 2003 Location: Brandon Posts: 9,000 Rep Power: 19	AMA???????????????

29-09-2004, 08:14 PM	#21
Rolls PassionFord Post Troll Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (2) Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 3,429 Rep Power: 13	amal, soz!

29-09-2004, 08:16 PM	#22
Roosie 500bhp Cosworth in making 1994 Ford Escort My Garage Trader Score: (8) Join Date: May 2003 Location: Brandon Posts: 9,000 Rep Power: 19	i mean on that pic rolls amal aint that one!!!

29-09-2004, 08:18 PM	#23
Bread Too many posts.. I need a life!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Castleford, UK Posts: 526 Rep Power: 9	mine is xr2i loom im mk4 escort __________________ YES! i drive an estate!

29-09-2004, 08:20 PM	#24
Rolls PassionFord Post Troll Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (2) Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 3,429 Rep Power: 13	it defo looks like the amal, with the oil pressure sensor next to it, and the map, and co2 pot above it...... above that is the ISCV connection...............

29-09-2004, 10:33 PM	#25
1.9 xr2 on 40's i swear i didnt touch her Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: May 2004 Location: norfolk Posts: 5,030 Rep Power: 15	deffo the amel 1, called a 'boost control valve' in the haynes on mine the ecu is tucked behind the battery works but not ideal, in the car via a xr3i efi loom would be better, when i done it, it was just to get the car mot'd and i didnt have a erst lump to hand but i did have a frst 1 mite go back to erst when this lump blows, which im sure it wil __________________ please someone sell me a mk4 escort front bumper in grey

30-09-2004, 02:29 AM	#26
Project ST Too many posts.. I need a life!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: May 2003 Location: Portsmouth Posts: 863 Rep Power: 10	Hope this helps you mate: /Munki __________________ Noodle...

30-09-2004, 06:26 AM	#27
Adam_BlackRS Ex Ford Man Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: May 2003 Location: West Sussex Posts: 6,725 Rep Power: 16	Project ST, Yes, them loose wires are for the immobiliser, removed now. __________________ Audi S4 - 362.7bhp & 406.5lb-ft

30-09-2004, 07:17 AM	#28
Roosie 500bhp Cosworth in making 1994 Ford Escort My Garage Trader Score: (8) Join Date: May 2003 Location: Brandon Posts: 9,000 Rep Power: 19	thats all sorted cheers mate

30-09-2004, 08:01 AM	#29
CraigN PassionFord Post Whore!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: May 2003 Location: Bristol Posts: 6,208 Rep Power: 16	the speed sensor actually leans off fueling at certain revs according to simon @ SECS tho dunno how true this is but it was meant to be there so i let it be

30-09-2004, 08:01 AM
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