Mondeo TDCI Problems - Anyone help ?
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Mondeo TDCI Problems - Anyone help ?
My mondeo TDC 130ps model had a really bad rattle on tickover , i thought it was the timing chain tensioner , its oil fed and when the engine picks up speed or is under load the rattle goes away
anyone had any similar problems or any direction of to what else it might be
thnk ill start with the tensioner as that seems te mor likely
Thanks in advance Stu
anyone had any similar problems or any direction of to what else it might be
thnk ill start with the tensioner as that seems te mor likely
Thanks in advance Stu
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Originally Posted by Shings
Its standard issue..
They rattle like fuck.
My 03 plate one did it from 7k miles up till 84k when it went.
My mates 51 plate does it.
They rattle like fuck.
My 03 plate one did it from 7k miles up till 84k when it went.
My mates 51 plate does it.
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in fact I have a mate with a 54 plate car and his does it as well- he's had it since 10k.
ITs a fuckin horrible sound- I remember Redkop asked me if it was fucked before when I was over at Nutters once.
in fact I have a mate with a 54 plate car and his does it as well- he's had it since 10k.
ITs a fuckin horrible sound- I remember Redkop asked me if it was fucked before when I was over at Nutters once.
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the sound is one of 2 things,
the duel mass flywheel or the bottom pully.
put the aux belt off and cheak out the bottom pully first, they are in 2 parts held togther with rubber and the rubber strches/ breaks up and the 2 meatel bit bang togther or the pully rubs on the timing belt cover.
if that looks ok, pull out the tdc sensor and see if it is covered in metal filings, if so its the duel mass flywheel.
there always fucking one of the 2
the duel mass flywheel or the bottom pully.
put the aux belt off and cheak out the bottom pully first, they are in 2 parts held togther with rubber and the rubber strches/ breaks up and the 2 meatel bit bang togther or the pully rubs on the timing belt cover.
if that looks ok, pull out the tdc sensor and see if it is covered in metal filings, if so its the duel mass flywheel.
there always fucking one of the 2
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Originally Posted by Shings
Originally Posted by StuarTurbo
this has got 135,000 on it , due for a replacement ?
do they not relise that i spend an average of 600+ miles per week in ths thing and havent notised
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Originally Posted by Tank Mike
the sound is one of 2 things,
the duel mass flywheel or the bottom pully.
put the aux belt off and cheak out the bottom pully first, they are in 2 parts held togther with rubber and the rubber strches/ breaks up and the 2 meatel bit bang togther or the pully rubs on the timing belt cover.
if that looks ok, pull out the tdc sensor and see if it is covered in metal filings, if so its the duel mass flywheel.
there always fucking one of the 2
the duel mass flywheel or the bottom pully.
put the aux belt off and cheak out the bottom pully first, they are in 2 parts held togther with rubber and the rubber strches/ breaks up and the 2 meatel bit bang togther or the pully rubs on the timing belt cover.
if that looks ok, pull out the tdc sensor and see if it is covered in metal filings, if so its the duel mass flywheel.
there always fucking one of the 2
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i used to work for a rental company and we had loads of the 130ps tdci mondeos, it will never fuck compleatly unsess you driving it like you stole it.
evey single time someone brought one in for that noise it was one or the other of the above things,
let me know how you get on with it
evey single time someone brought one in for that noise it was one or the other of the above things,
let me know how you get on with it
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I would put my money on it being the crank pulley/ damper.
According to the ford service bulletin, you wil most probably need the modified bottom pulley, tensioner and belt replacing
According to the ford service bulletin, you wil most probably need the modified bottom pulley, tensioner and belt replacing
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Originally Posted by o n i o n
I would put my money on it being the crank pulley/ damper.
According to the ford service bulletin, you wil most probably need the modified bottom pulley, tensioner and belt replacing
According to the ford service bulletin, you wil most probably need the modified bottom pulley, tensioner and belt replacing
you need to hear the sound really to make the best guess
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Originally Posted by Tank Mike
Originally Posted by o n i o n
I would put my money on it being the crank pulley/ damper.
According to the ford service bulletin, you wil most probably need the modified bottom pulley, tensioner and belt replacing
According to the ford service bulletin, you wil most probably need the modified bottom pulley, tensioner and belt replacing
you need to hear the sound really to make the best guess
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Originally Posted by StuarTurbo
Thanks very much gentlemen
Ah , when you say drive it like you stole it , what about driving it like a minicab driver ? ? ?
Ah , when you say drive it like you stole it , what about driving it like a minicab driver ? ? ?
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dual mass flywheel sounds like to me .
dip the clutch , if the noise gets softer you know you,ve found it .
done lots of the sodding things ! espiecally taxi's
give me a solid flywheel anyday ! my life was alot easier but less profitable
dip the clutch , if the noise gets softer you know you,ve found it .
done lots of the sodding things ! espiecally taxi's
give me a solid flywheel anyday ! my life was alot easier but less profitable
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Originally Posted by o n i o n
I would put my money on it being the crank pulley/ damper.
According to the ford service bulletin, you wil most probably need the modified bottom pulley, tensioner and belt replacing
According to the ford service bulletin, you wil most probably need the modified bottom pulley, tensioner and belt replacing
I work for a ford main dealer and we change them all the time!
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Changed the bottom pulley all nice n quiet now
it is a modified one looks totally different too the one i took off
Thanks to all those that helped , just have to get out to work tonight
it is a modified one looks totally different too the one i took off
Thanks to all those that helped , just have to get out to work tonight
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My Zetec S does this as well. Only had chance to have one listen and it seemed to be coming from the alternator area, just thought it was getting a bit noisy. Looks like mine has this problem
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Originally Posted by Series1Dry
My Zetec S does this as well. Only had chance to have one listen and it seemed to be coming from the alternator area, just thought it was getting a bit noisy. Looks like mine has this problem
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It's just the suspension that is different on the Zetec S is'nt it ? Are'nt the engines the same on the TDCi models ? Don't know much about mondys
Just started mine before and it started fine but made a hell of a noise from this area and would'nt rev at all. What would this point to ?
Just started mine before and it started fine but made a hell of a noise from this area and would'nt rev at all. What would this point to ?
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I was gonna go for a Ghia for the spec but the missus wanted the ZS cos they sit lower and look more sporty. Wanted the ST ideally but a bit pricey for us with the kids. We need to sort this noise out on the ZS and it will be bob on. Pulls well for a diesel and drives like a dream but the main thing is the room for the kids. Also the airbags everywhere give us piece of mind as we would'nt have stood a chance in the S1 in a serious accident I hate being sensible but the kids come 1st. . . for now
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Originally Posted by Gary_R
Originally Posted by Series1Dry
It's just the suspension that is different on the Zetec S is'nt it ? Are'nt the engines the same on the TDCi models ?
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Originally Posted by Gary_R
Originally Posted by Series1Dry
It's just the suspension that is different on the Zetec S is'nt it ? Are'nt the engines the same on the TDCi models ?
Originally Posted by Series1Dry
I was gonna go for a Ghia for the spec but the missus wanted the ZS cos they sit lower and look more sporty. Wanted the ST ideally but a bit pricey for us with the kids. We need to sort this noise out on the ZS and it will be bob on. Pulls well for a diesel and drives like a dream but the main thing is the room for the kids. Also the airbags everywhere give us piece of mind as we would'nt have stood a chance in the S1 in a serious accident I hate being sensible but the kids come 1st. . . for now
I'm 99.9% sure the ZS is the same height as the rest of the range, even the ST version only sits 15mm lower
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Originally Posted by Gary_R
Originally Posted by Tank Mike
Originally Posted by Gary_R
Originally Posted by Series1Dry
It's just the suspension that is different on the Zetec S is'nt it ? Are'nt the engines the same on the TDCi models ?
Originally Posted by Series1Dry
I was gonna go for a Ghia for the spec but the missus wanted the ZS cos they sit lower and look more sporty. Wanted the ST ideally but a bit pricey for us with the kids. We need to sort this noise out on the ZS and it will be bob on. Pulls well for a diesel and drives like a dream but the main thing is the room for the kids. Also the airbags everywhere give us piece of mind as we would'nt have stood a chance in the S1 in a serious accident I hate being sensible but the kids come 1st. . . for now
I'm 99.9% sure the ZS is the same height as the rest of the range, even the ST version only sits 15mm lower
no saying the french one is better becasue they blow out the injector seals the second they get over 120k
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mines just done its first 12 hour stint out on the mean streets and it went without a hick up im still a bif fan of chasing chavs in there 1. nothing hatches always shocks them they cant keep up with a diesel estate taxi
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Can you just change the bottom pulley on it's own or do you need to do the belt anfd tensioner?
Can you just change the bottom pulley on it's own or do you need to do the belt anfd tensioner?
You could try it though, if it works, you've saved yourself a few quid!
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i just changed the bottom pulley , doesnt seem to have effected anything else , tho i did spend about 20 mins trying to remember how the belt was routed
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Can you just change the bottom pulley on it's own or do you need to do the belt anfd tensioner?
Can you just change the bottom pulley on it's own or do you need to do the belt anfd tensioner?
You could try it though, if it works, you've saved yourself a few quid!
i attempted this today. thought i would renew all three, belt, pulley & tension. reason is seen as how i have it apart, may as well. the cars done 56,000 and the belt does look like it is on it's last legs. pulley is fcuked. tensioner? dunno, maybe it's ok but i've bought a new one anyway.
didn't appriciate how difficult it would be. how did you release tension on the belt? can't get any of my tools in to turn the tensioner clock-wise.
how about removing the tensioner? none of my allen keys will fit in the space provided?
didn't realise that the belt won't come off without undoing the tensioner.
taking the pulley of was a piece of piss, then i noticed the crank shaft oil-seal was leaking....have you ever wished you hadn't started a job
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What are the negative effects of not getting the belt replaced? Mines been doing it for about 12,000 miles now; give or take. I did go to Fords who quoted me £300 but they told me its nothing to worry about and they'll only change it if the "owner expresses concern". Knowing my luck it will snap and I'll be without PS, AC etc lol
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Re: Auxillary Belt, Tensioner, Crank-shaft Pulley
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Can you just change the bottom pulley on it's own or do you need to do the belt anfd tensioner?
Can you just change the bottom pulley on it's own or do you need to do the belt anfd tensioner?
You could try it though, if it works, you've saved yourself a few quid!
i attempted this today. thought i would renew all three, belt, pulley & tension. reason is seen as how i have it apart, may as well. the cars done 56,000 and the belt does look like it is on it's last legs. pulley is fcuked. tensioner? dunno, maybe it's ok but i've bought a new one anyway.
didn't appriciate how difficult it would be. how did you release tension on the belt? can't get any of my tools in to turn the tensioner clock-wise.
how about removing the tensioner? none of my allen keys will fit in the space provided?
didn't realise that the belt won't come off without undoing the tensioner.
taking the pulley of was a piece of piss, then i noticed the crank shaft oil-seal was leaking....have you ever wished you hadn't started a job
HOpe this helps mate, let me know how you get on