no1fanofcolin

Hi There.

My XR3i needs Idle control valve air flow for xr3i k series engine. None electronic.specific to year 1989, which is the best place to find one preferably new, plenty on E Bay, but Ford say the wrong ones

Help appreciated

Rob_DOHC

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Is it the remote valve type or the one which sits on the side of the inlet manifold?

no1fanofcolin

Not sure have asked Ford as they are sorting it, thank you for your response

Rob_DOHC

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No worries... but honestly just open the bonnet and look, its either on the inlet manifold or remotely mounted on the bulk head Ford will want quite a bit of money I suspect. If the valve on ebay looks the same it will work. Ford only used a couple of variants and they all looked pretty different so you can't really go wrong.

Good luck

Rob,

no1fanofcolin

Bought this part on their request, but they say is wrong one
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/130749705417

nathansRS

this is the one

http://www.fordmanuals.org/page-1067.html

and there is a s/h one available

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ESCORT-MK3...item1c4165ff83


TBH i'd be surprised if this was the cause of a non-start - it was just a late breather hack for when the heated screen etc loaded the alternator, reducing idle speed.

You can easily test the theory; when it fails to start, when you crank it over, apply appx 1+-cm of pressure on the accellerator and hold.


I think you would be better taking this to Tony @ turbosystems or Stu @ MSD, they would have this fixed with much less pain.

Good luck

no1fanofcolin

Thanks, pain you are right never had any probs with her over 26 years, never used her so much, but now over two years have gone from 30.000 to over 50.000 parts obviously wearing, hope prob sorted soon, just emailed suggestion to manager of Ford service who is doing his best to help part required is Idle control valve air flow for xr3i k series engine. None electronic this was part that came up on diagnosis

jameswrx

Nice to hear you've had it 26 years! And quite cool in a way that Ford still look after it.

Be good to see se pics, can't be many low mileage, (assuming?) one owner xr3i's about!

RSmark84

What the hell is a k series engine?(sounds like you've stuck a rover engine into the car....?) I assume you mean the CVH engine? with K jetronic management........

Rob_DOHC

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Yes I am getting a bit confused too lol The part you need will depend on whether you have mechanical or electronic injection. Think 89 will be MFI..?

Does you engine bay look like this:



Or like this:



Either way, best of luck and if Ford don't sort it I'm sure someone here can

Rob,

Rob_DOHC

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I can't see where he has mentioned a non start

But if that is the case, and the car is MFI any air leak present when cranking can stop the metering unit flap being pulled down by the correct amount, pushing the throttle down wont help much. However pressing the large flap down by a few MM will.

botters

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if its in evanshalshaw ford in preston dont believe anything they say they are fookin useless! lol

car help

Hi have you tried contacting burton power tel o208 518 9199 they may have the answer

no1fanofcolin

Thank you Nathan, seems to be the one as it is non electric, but need new one if possible

no1fanofcolin

Thanks, tried them, but no luck :-(

no1fanofcolin

The first one MFI

no1fanofcolin

Yes one lady owner from new

nathansRS

lol


lolz, I think Colin's no1 fan might not be a he
... but you never know ..

Here you go Rob
https://passionford.com/forum/genera...arm-start.html

pmsl, err...no. You're confused again - pull up for XR K and down for RS KE, remember... lolz



That is a really nice car, hope you get it all fixed soon

no1fanofcolin

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B000CF3SIE

here is part unavailable

Rob_DOHC

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No I don't remember, I have never owned or worked on an MFI XR3i. What I do remember is that any form of air leak will mean the flap does not move in what ever direction as intended at low load, ie idle/startup, air leaks on MFI cars are an incredibly common and often misdiagnosed problem.

Yes apologies, books covers etc. Appreciate you pointing my obvious mistake out though mate.

Rob,

Rob_DOHC

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Hiya,

Yes that looks more like what I though you were talking about, it lives under the inlet manifold on the RS Turbo so I assume it is in a similar location on the XR3i. I doubt you will be able to buy a new one any where, however you should be able to find a good used one, annoyingly I had one attached to a manifold which I binned recently other wise you could have had it for free

For your info, and to help the search they were also fitted to Porsche 924's and some 944.

Here is a used one for sale, from a Corsa of all things!

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VAUXHALL-C...25.m3641.l6393

Best of luck with the hunt.

Rob,

no1fanofcolin

Thank you, just emailed Ford the link, finally persuaded them to fit second hand part as new one not available anywhere, oh that's a pity the manifold was binned with the part on

Rob_DOHC

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Good stuff, I hope they sort if for you

If they don't I would definitely go and see motorsport developments in blackpool, I suspect they know more about MFI in all of its forms than the majority of people at Ford.

http://www.motorsport-developments.co.uk/

Rob,

no1fanofcolin

Thanks Rob, part is ordered, hopefully will solve prob

haz87

Thats an auxiliary air valve.

If its jammed open (usual case) then you'd have a high idle.

It its jammed shut then the car will struggle to idle at very cold, but once warm the AAV shuts anyway (operated by a bimettalic strip).

So don't think this will be the cause of your non-running issues.

no1fanofcolin

This is the part that came up on Ford diagnosis, already have had starter motor and fuel pump relay, she starts. but struggles sometimes not 100% as Ford put it and once cut out on the road, just the once, first started when filling up at the petrol station after a 25 mile run, she struggled and had to wait a minute, that was when I had all the parts put in to rectify it

no1fanofcolin

Bought the part waiting for Ford to fit it someone on another site said it looked electrical, but Ford said it looked like the correct one so give it a try, oh do hope it is MFi been looking for it for weeks

no1fanofcolin

Rob_DOHC

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Best of luck! Let us know how it goes

Rob

no1fanofcolin

Many Thanks Rob, the part you found worked and now my XR3i is finally back on the road

Rob_DOHC

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Fantastic news

Glad its all sorted and thanks for letting us know.

Rob,

no1fanofcolin

Well she has been starting fine, first time filled with petrol no probs after a 5 min journey, but today filled with petrol after an hour journey and she hesitated, turned over twice, and had to pump the gas, I did not overfill what is it with filling petrol starting and hesitation, in her 26 years never had that prob lol got her back home turned engine off put on again and she started immediately

Rob_DOHC

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Oh no I hope its a one off!

It is still very worth while getting the car setup every few years, the mechanical fuel injection can drift out of calibration with time. If your ever in Blackpool Motor sport developments would be able to do this very easily.

Rob,

Thrush

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Deffo worth a trip over to Stu and James at Motor Sport Developments I think. Give the old girl a good going over (and yes, I am referring to the car!!! )

costina

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I would have to agree. Prob needs injectors cleaning,new.fuel filter
And a set up.

no1fanofcolin

Well been on the road 3 weeks, running great and faster than ever, thanks again Rob the part you found solved the prob starting every time

Rob_DOHC

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Great news

Enjoy

Rob,

no1fanofcolin

Well she's been ok 2 months, on road every day, filled at petrol station today and took 10 mins to start, after 50 mile drive, she's not too keen starting up immediately after switching off was ok when engine cooled, had full service and MOT couple of weeks ago, passed first time

Rob_DOHC

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Happy days, thanks for letting us know its still working!

no1fanofcolin

She still has prob with warm start been ok since new part fitted, but now need fuel pressure regulator any links to where I can find one welcome, she is 1989 model MFI