ntlsurfer

soooo...... its a little bit backwards....I have a 1300 mk4 escort two door estate in white, Im looking at converting it to a 1600 xr2 engine from a mk1 fiesta which is about 90 horse power compared to my current 60... so this is the list for my plan.

XR2 1600 motor with a 5 speed box.
bike carbs.
4 branch manifold.
mid spec cam.
and possibly a big valved head and gas flowed.

the only things I don't know where to go with is drivshafts and what other bit and pieces I need to do the conversion... obviously I know ill be going from electronic ignition the distributor... but id probs swap it over to electronic at some point....

I have chosen this option as it suits my insurance and also suits my work load...

any ideas and thanks in advance

Johnny

CosworthGuy

Is your 1300 a 5 speed?? Use the escort 5 speed box and shafts and the fiesta engine. Simple as that. The mk1 fiesta never came with a 5 speed so im assuming your using an escort box that is

ntlsurfer

nah its a 4 speed, I need a 5 speed to run the 1600 I was assuming.

what escort box is 5 speed that I could use maybe just another mk4 escort but off a 1600 maybe.

I thought that xr2s were five speed....I could be wrong though......

this is where I need the guidance as Im unsure which parts are interchangeable.....my old man is a ford nut..... but alas were still unsure what crosses to each other....... he mentioned an rs turbo box and an xr2 engine..... but then what shafts do I use my old ones or ones from the donor rst...... it gets to be confusing stuff you know...

cheers fella

CosworthGuy

mk1 xr2 were never 5 speed. mk2 xr2 were. Some people did conversions in the mk1's. Any 5 speed box from a mk4 escort will fit. Just the ratios may be different. Just get the mk 4 escort box and im sure even the shafts are the same weather it be 4 or 5 speed

ntlsurfer

Cool, that's a start in the right direction, any recommendations on finding an engine eBay and the fiesta forum have turned up sweet nothings

CosworthGuy

You dont have the mk1 xr2 engine then?? To be honest i think you may struggle to get one for a reasonable price and they are a very very old engne. Would be easier to buy a 1.6 cvh and go from there. They are in loads of escorts and fiesta's in carb form. Even the mk3 had them in the 1.6s. slip a cam in it and descent filter and an exhaust and your away.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ford-Escor...item4ac5305f17

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ford-1-6-C...item27cfb81b90

CosworthGuy

Even better
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ford-Escor...item3cd2379ce2

ntlsurfer

Mmmmmmm to.many ideas I think....maybe its back to the drawing board

ntlsurfer

So a mk2 xr2 engine..........is that a cvh I'm having a nuclear meltdown in my brain

CosworthGuy

mk2 is a cvh. As found in many escorts and fiestas. The ohv in your escort is not the same as an ohv from a mk1 fiesta xr2 im sure. Yours is a valencia if i remember right and the xr2 is a kent engine

ntlsurfer

Your correct Valencia is less tubeable that's why I want an xr2 lump also I don't really want to run an ecu

CosworthGuy

Who said about an ecu? All the engines ive mentioned are carb fed.

ntlsurfer

Yeah I no, just stating I don't want an ecu lol.if I use a 1600 cvh do you know what mounts I need

ntlsurfer

bit of a shopping list can anyone think of anything else

Engine complete
Inlet manifold and carbs
Exhaust manifold and down pipe,gear box withthe cradle and linkages gear stick and selector plate
Distributor
Alternator
Starter motor.
All the loom for engine including battery cables..
Clutch

ntlsurfer

guess no one has any other ideas then, sourcing the motor has been taxing still not found one yet

DROPTOP

so your escy runs the black box esc then? and coil pack?
you want this.....
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FORD-ESCOR...item58a0eddded

then either £140 on inlet / 70 for bike carbs / 30 for a pump or £20 for a round top late xr2 carb and 30 for a pump job done. engine needs stem seals which are nothing and a new release bearing again nothing. guess you'll need a 5 spd linkage too which aren't expensive , even better a puma linkage about £25 on ebay. parts for the cvh are sooo cheap! and they go well enough for a daily driver.

ntlsurfer

got bike carbs of a fzr, that engines not what im looking for

Bermo XR2

there you go original mk1 XR2 engine
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FORD-FIEST...item2ec8d28e65
or this off a MK2
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/xr2-engine...item4ac61f959a

DROPTOP

from what you've said it is , if its not then i don't think you know what you need (hence the op)

ntlsurfer

Eh, iv commented saying mk1 fiesta engine which is 1600 ohv, the escort efi lump is completely different