Sierrasideways

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Best place for A: value for money as I've heard places differ in the region of £600!

B: Quality of workmanship

Anybody seen any differences anywhere?

I have the cash, just want to spend it in the right place.

It's for a crystal blue.

Cheers.

Philip.

Sonic Boom

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IMHO MK Motorsports one is the best.

Rich

Sierrasideways

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Cheers Rich

james kiely

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phil ,my buddy got one made by richard up in armagh and the quality is very good

Sierrasideways

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Sounds good James.

I believe that one is much cheaper than MK Motorsports one so just wondering why?

What's the major differences?

I just want to spend the money in the right place.

Fezman1

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Is that the guy in Ballygawley? If so I got a beam from him. Very well done and well priced. Uses quality rose joints & fabrication was spot on. He even gave me group A tarmac camber and toe settings for setting the car up after.

ajamesc

There's lots who make them now but you need to choose one that's not going to make your car handle worse lol I'm going to get an mk one

Ade

How would any make your car handle worse?
Surely it's just adding adjustability to the rear end, so handling will be as good as the set up?

Correct me if I'm wrong, and there's genuine design differences, but I would expect that build quality would be the only issue?

ajamesc

I've been looking into what beam to buy for a while now and read a fair bit! Seems it's not in common for a few cheaper home made beams to not be genuine 6 degree beams and they can make the car feel worse than standard on the limit. I guess you get what you pay for. Any one can buy a welder and make one don't mean there doing it right lol

james kiely

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well phil i have a mk beam with a jag diff and its of excellent qualiity,which cant be denied .
i have been to richards workshop and seen his fabrication/welding first hand and the quality is excellent also.

thats the chap , great value for money without any compromise in fabrication standards

Marc sierra

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I have also put quite a lot of time into finding out what different beams are available. I did notice that one of the beams that was available was not 6 degree, but probably more like 13 degrees (compared to the 18 degrees which is standard). But I don't see how they would make the car feel worse than standard. Reducing the angle is still an improvement, it's just not as good as it could have been if it really was 6 degrees. In the end I chose to go to a local welder and have my own made. And I do believe I did it right.

MK MOTORSPORT

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hi phil
as well as price ,look at what you get for your money ie single /double adjustable ,size/ quailty of rose joints ,uprated coil over mounts ,adjuster assembly on inner arm for adjustment in the slot ,also is it mig or tig welded ,has the arm been seamless tubed on the inside before it was skinned etc

mark

Fezman1

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I must admit- your inner arm adjuster is a great thing.
Most people use McGill motorsports rod ends- & the 'premium' range ones.
Original arm ends are mig welded - so mig welding any changes is perfectly acceptable.
The original arms are hopelessly weak- so any strengthening (without too much compromise on weight) can only be a good thing.

The thing people forget about altering a beam and arms is the time. even with proper jig sets - it still takes a good few hours to complete. & this is where some of the cost differences come in.

As said before, going to an adjustable beam (of any) wont make your car handle worse - unless you make a pigs ear of setting it up.

london_chris

so, i am looking on behalf of a mate, these beams, can someone list a name of company or suppliers and price so a comparison can be made.

thanks in advance.

chris

MK MOTORSPORT

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Thankyou
I think it helps makes it easier to adjust
I meant mig or tig as in tig is slower to do as in time/cost
I use 7/8ths joints witch are very big ie stronger
You have to use jigs to keep everthing square and true
I usally takes a day to do beamg and another day to do a pair of arms
Mark

turbotrev

How much are your beams Mark?

Cheers Paul

MK MOTORSPORT

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Top of the range one
£1000
Mark

Danielbetty

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Scs all day long

Hellraiser

I have MK motorsport one, work in it is perfection, as always from him!
I bought lots of fabricated parts from Mark bcos he always explains to me how they work, what difference they make, the benefits of having them, i seriously cannot fault his work or knowledge

Sierrasideways

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Hi Mark,

Thank you for the information. All I've heard are good things about your beam so I know where I'll be spending my hard earned dosh

Cheers,

Philip.

p.s. Thanks everyone also for the replies.

Paul_RS

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SCS/Bayjoo beam is the best one IMO.

Caddyshack

Why didn't Ford make the beam 6 degree before production stopped, is the a down side other than cost?

If you drove 2 identical cars on the road, could you tell a non equipped car from a 6 degree car straight away?

ajamesc

Was there not a slight difference with the rs500 beam? I'm sure I read something on here with the North Yorks caltex one

Mark Shead

Yes.

Mark

Caddyshack

Damn You!, Shead....another £1000 I need to spend.

R4N SS

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whats the difference between an MK and SCS beam - surely they are the same and its just the fabrication that is different?

onslack

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ive got a turbo systems 6 degree beam fitted to my saph, it made a massive difference to the way the car drove and put the power down

my beam bushes were like wizards sleeves though so were due to be replaced

MK MOTORSPORT

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Hi mine are double adjustable , ie rose jointed both ends , then mine have a billet type motorcycle chain adjuster to make adjusting inner joint easier
And i uprate the shock mount for coil overs
Mark

Marc sierra

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The one that isn't actually 6 degrees if I remember correct...

Danielbetty

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Scs uprate the mounting points for coilovers as well

R5FORD

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Is the price including a beam or do i have to supply it?

Caddyshack

supply or exchange normally

Sierrasideways

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I was told exchange also.

Mark V8

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What are the 6 degree beams like for road noise and vibrations being fully rose jointed ?

MK MOTORSPORT

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hi
the standard bearings are rose jointed in effect ,spherical bearings with rubber seals in the end
mark

Mark V8

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Thanks Mark


Do you offer a version with some kind of rubber to protect the joints ?


Also for the Jag beam do you need the diff as well ?


Thanks

MK MOTORSPORT

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Can fit rubber boots on joints
If you wanted to fit a jag diff yes i would need diff
Go supra bolt in
Mark

ajamesc

Do you use rose joints with grease nipples to keep things lubricated

Caddyshack

I thought rose joints should not be lubricated, the surfaces were designed not to be and grease encourages dirt to become a grinding paste. I could be wrong though

ajamesc

I work on a fair few tippers and skip loaders with smaller rose joints on the back for the sheet and tipping gear. They all have grease nipple types.