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Old 13-09-2014, 10:00 PM
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Default air con on a cosworth, retro fitting

well with all these million pound cosy's with factory air con, what would be the best route in retro fitting air con to a sapphire cos?

At a guess, im thinking find a donor 2000E sapphire, and rob all its aircon bits, but would you need some escort cosworth parts to complete the conversion?







its all about them 3 hot days a year in the UK when you wish you had air con
Old 13-09-2014, 10:06 PM
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Could you not ask the rs breakers and see if you can have the complete system.

My saff had an after market system fitted when I first bought it. I ripped the lot out.
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just pondering the idea glenn,


tho i want a small list of little plastic, carpet and other trim bits, along with some uncrushed floor jacking points,

so buying a complete 2000E could be the most cost effective way.


not that there is any 2000Es left!
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The shells are different, so I am not sure it would be possible!

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Originally Posted by Fil
just pondering the idea glenn,


tho i want a small list of little plastic, carpet and other trim bits, along with some uncrushed floor jacking points,

so buying a complete 2000E could be the most cost effective way.


not that there is any 2000Es left!
And 2000e's aint cheap i have an ac u it out of my 2000e sitting around doing nothing
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the shells are different but it is possible martin at reyland did it on his rs500 check out his build thread it did involve cutting a section of bulkhead out of a doner car and welding it in but its do able
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i did it many years ago,took it out of a ghia,you have to cut a hole in the bulkhead,not a hard job,but a lot to take out,dash etc..
i still have a bottle of r12 gas around somewhere
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sod the bulk head cutting. tho when posting this last night I did have one or two Stellas in me
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if you need aircon your not going fast enough fil
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Originally Posted by botters
the shells are different but it is possible martin at reyland did it on his rs500 check out his build thread it did involve cutting a section of bulkhead out of a doner car and welding it in but its do able
Yes Martin bought a saff and removed the bulk head piece but the Aircon pipes/pump and compressor are all from different fords but in my eyes(I am biased) it's the only car that has a full ford system fitted amongst other upgrades.
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Originally Posted by Glenn_
Could you not ask the rs breakers and see if you can have the complete system.

My saff had an after market system fitted when I first bought it. I ripped the lot out.
Hi Glenn, why did you rip it out of your car? Looked shit, didnt work or sapped power? I must admit it would be nice sometimes to have aircon in my 2wd!
Cheers Richard.
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Originally Posted by james kiely
if you need aircon your not going fast enough fil
that is true, as that's when you need air con when stuck in traffic, like queuing to get out of classic ford at pod
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Mine got air con. 4 settings......er i mean buttons to choose from below the gear stick
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i have most mechanical parts to do this, no bulkhead though, i have pm'd mate...

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Id love to do it to my 3 door im restoring it, and i live in spain no way could i drive here especially as its black with no aircon
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I bought a 4x4 2 litre ghia estate as a runaround years ago and pulled the a/c system out of it to fit to my old 3dr, never got around to it and binned it all!

The bulkhead panel is only spot welded on, easy enough to chop out and fit into the normal bulkhead.

The system on mine is from the Mk1 sierra so no bulkhead mod required by the looks of it, was a kit for the lhd pinto sierra's ford offered via the dealers.
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Originally Posted by PAUL S
I bought a 4x4 2 litre ghia estate as a runaround years ago and pulled the a/c system out of it to fit to my old 3dr, never got around to it and binned it all!

The bulkhead panel is only spot welded on, easy enough to chop out and fit into the normal bulkhead.

The system on mine is from the Mk1 sierra so no bulkhead mod required by the looks of it, was a kit for the lhd pinto sierra's ford offered via the dealers.

This is spot on my mate and myself have stripped loads of sierras over the years and basically the panel has 2 square holes in it. You will need the other type of panel that sits infront of the wipers.
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Might look into doing this, would it add to the value of the car?
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Would love an aircon setup in my Saph! Is it really necessary to start chopping the bulkhead though?!
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Originally Posted by Ade
Would love an aircon setup in my Saph! Is it really necessary to start chopping the bulkhead though?!
No there are some good kits out there now for kitcars whereby you could remove the existing internal fan set up and replace it with one with an integral evaporator, they look very similar to the standard sierra fan assembly.

kit car solutions I think is the website
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Originally Posted by Ade
Would love an aircon setup in my Saph! Is it really necessary to start chopping the bulkhead though?!
You then have the compressor, 4x4 isn't too bad as it was an option, with the revised serpentine belt and other revisions, with the 2WD, this isn't the case!

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I have retrofitted air con to my 24v sapph, including cutting the bulk head. There are quite a few pics in my project thread on installing it.
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Originally Posted by Ade
Would love an aircon setup in my Saph! Is it really necessary to start chopping the bulkhead though?!
I remember Ben Cresswell fitted it to his and he did it that way. Quite a process but the kit car solutions website kits look interesting
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I have the needed bulkhead panel
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Originally Posted by Martin-Hadland
I have the needed bulkhead panel
would you sell it?
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Shells easy to modify...



just need that lump out of a air con equipped car, I also have a spare set of virtually everyrthing you need from the air con car as ive bought 3 times as much... with martings bulkhead panel, and a loat of bits from here you would only need the compressor and you would have everything you need..
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Copied from my Thread on the FSOC:

Todays Update... Aircon Modifications...

Well after the last update, she got left alone for a few weeks whilst I did some butt kicking of my own, sorted some problems on the azura and generally sorted a couple small life issues, well smiler said he would come around to help today so I said ok and we cracked on with a bit of a moral booster of a job (there needed sometimes on huge projects like this )

Today we added the bulkhead panels that means the car is now an air con car \/ \/








Yes i do all my own stunts grinding paint off ready to weld the bulkhead panel in (taken without permission )


Hmm, an interesting view on a V6 24v, not seen by many fools


Work completed for the day.




Overall I a quite happy with the work achieved, not all plug welds were completed, and it wasnt painted red as planned but overall were in reasonable shape.

There might not be a worthy update for a few weeks now, got a few small jobs to finish off before carrying on with the rust busting.
  • Finish plug welding front wing
  • Finish welding wing on and align with indicator
  • Finish plug welding A/C bulkhead
  • Paint A/C bulkhead Red
  • Finish Cleaning up coinslots, reinforcing ARB Bolt Brackets and close up.

In Reality about a days work if im lucky, but that depends how much free time I get
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