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Old 22-03-2014, 04:32 PM
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Default New Lithium Ion battery for the 3 Door ***Final Installation It Runs***

Last event of the year at Prescott Nigels scooby battery packed up after some asking around we found a fella Allan McDonald who sells these Lithium Ion batteries which are tiny and super light mainly used on single seaters, but Allan said they would work fine on road going application.
I have to say I wasn't covinced as looking at it, it looks like it wouldn't run a R/C car but we put it on and it fired up and ran the scooby perfectly and has done for 6 months now so I decided to get one myself.
Here it is i'll let the photos do the talking but you can see the weight saving alone is huge i'll get some more photos when it's all wired in:

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Old 22-03-2014, 04:49 PM
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oooooh nice

so how much £sss?
Old 22-03-2014, 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Fil
oooooh nice

so how much £sss?
£130 delivered.

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Old 22-03-2014, 04:55 PM
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Hmm! Thats all well n good but they aint worth nowt as scrap...



Any use for diesels if bigger units available?
Old 22-03-2014, 05:19 PM
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Thats a hell of a weight difference may have to lool into getting one
Old 22-03-2014, 05:40 PM
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Nice price and weight saving mate
Old 23-03-2014, 12:12 PM
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They will defo be lighter.
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Funnily I'd talked about these with a rally man last year. Are you mounting it in a non standard location?
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Originally Posted by Paul_RS
Funnily I'd talked about these with a rally man last year. Are you mounting it in a non standard location?
The battery tray is coming out as it's looking alittle rusty
So just going to make a suitable mounting box/tray next to the inner wing with and redo the wiring and fit alittle fuse box setup.
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Old 23-03-2014, 02:51 PM
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Will look into one of these.tho the battery on Rsty is brand new

Shouldn't be too bad to sort tray out as spesh made mine removable
Old 23-03-2014, 08:43 PM
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Cool, keep us updated, I'll get the anti lag stuff out this week
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An obvious advantage on size and weight, but how does it measure up when comparing all the electrical stats?
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Can a standard cossie alternator charge them ok and what's the price on a charger?!
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Originally Posted by Toe Knee
Can a standard cossie alternator charge them ok and what's the price on a charger?!
This is a pm I recieved from Allan on the Uphill Racers forum:

Originally Posted by AllanMcD
No special charger needed (you can use anything you would use for a lead acid) but if you are not absaolutely shure theres no discharge its best to disconnect.
If you just keep a check on the charge indicator you will know whats needed.
Any alternator is fine to charge the battery as long as it produces more than 12.4v but no more than 15.0v
Allan
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Humm fair enough just I know we use specific chargers on the 12C li ion batteries at work.

Also if they go dead flat they can't be charges like a normal battery from memory as we have a different setting to boost charge them from flat
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Some lead acid chargers have a desulphating mode, not all lithiums can cope with that
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They look like motorcycle batteries - what is the dimensions of the one you have please?
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Originally Posted by Twizz
They look like motorcycle batteries - what is the dimensions of the one you have please?
150mm x 150mm x 87mm

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Quick update, here it is pretty much finished just needs the wires tiding up abit more (just zipped tied for the moment) new engine loom still has to go in and the Anderson Connector.
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Wow! It looks minute in there
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Originally Posted by Cragrat
Wow! It looks minute in there
What's even better now i've binned off the ABS and the battery tray removing and installing the inlet manifold is a piece of piss, so easy to get to the lower nuts now even with my oafish hands.
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Well I can confirm that this tiny little battery starts and runs my 3 Door absolutley fine.
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Old 26-10-2014, 09:36 AM
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You taken the abs out ?

How does it compare without ?
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Originally Posted by cossie daz
You taken the abs out ?

How does it compare without ?
Awesome the original ABS system was never right, I love the Dual Master Cylinder setup it doesn't have any Servo assist so the pedal is very hard but the feel you get is so much better.
Plus you save a load of weight removing the ABS hardware and wiring.

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Update on the battery, I've ran it all season and it hasn't missed a beat.
It will only last about a week without being started but give it a jump off the Anderson connector and away you.
I can highly recommend one if your after some weight saving.

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Interested in this Sonic for my track car, how do you have the anderson connectors set up for a quick Jump start?
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I'm assuming that, if it's always plugged to a trickle charger, it would never be a problem!?
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Originally Posted by oibren85
Interested in this Sonic for my track car, how do you have the anderson connectors set up for a quick Jump start?
You see the red and black thick cables in the bottom right of the last photo they run to the Anderson plug in the front bumper, then they in turn run to the body earth and live multi block.
But there's nothing stopping you running the leads straight to the battery, I just did it this way for neatness

Originally Posted by cossiestu
I'm assuming that, if it's always plugged to a trickle charger, it would never be a problem!?
Ye that's exacty what i'm going to do over winter get a trickle chargers and put an Anderson connector on so I can just plug it into the front of the car without even lifting the bonnet.

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Originally Posted by Sonic Boom


Ye that's exacty what i'm going to do over winter get a trickle chargers and put an Anderson connector on so I can just plug it into the front of the car without even lifting the bonnet.

Rich
That's basically what I've got, just a Halfords trickle charger, with a small two pin plug coming through the grill...
Could be worth looking into, I'd like to put it in the boot... Not that I trust myself not to fuck up the wiring!?
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