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The good thing with after market is it's flexible so it's one cost then if you ever won't more power it's just a simple re map plus all the built in features it has.
Mate of mine has vipec on his 500 odd bhp saff I think that's just as good and cheaper
I am going over to vipec as I wanted to bring the engine management up to date, part of this is a new loom and coil on plugs etc and to move away from the distributor running the show for the spark timing....even when I started driving 23 years ago the distributor and the points seemed a poor system. I can then also get Mark Shead to map my car who is local enough to go back to when the car has further developments.
James, you could use Level 8 for a 500 bhp car, just because you're only after 380-400 doesn't mean you can't go after market either , i had Vi-Pec on my Tommi Mak Sheady built for me and it was superb, so many functions and i have to say the idle was just like stock, Autroinc can be temperamental on cold start, it was on my Sapph and my other Evo.
The good thing with after market is it's flexible so it's one cost then if you ever won't more power it's just a simple re map plus all the built in features it has.
Mate of mine has vipec on his 500 odd bhp saff I think that's just as good and cheaper
cheers andy ,
i am pretty sure i will stay at the 380/400 mark on the saff mate ,get it mapped the once and leave it and thought the level 8 would suit my needs
Originally Posted by Paul_RS
Level 8 is fine.
However it can't be mapped on the entire island of Ireland (To my knowledge) and you really need a new loom to make it reliable (£400-£500).
If I was doing my car again, I'd probably go aftermarket.
paul i have the sm4 and new loom[2 to 3 month old for both] and a level 8 with launch and traction enabled too just no wasted spark ,but at the end of the day i want the car to be as reliable as possible
Originally Posted by Caddyshack
I am going over to vipec as I wanted to bring the engine management up to date, part of this is a new loom and coil on plugs etc and to move away from the distributor running the show for the spark timing....even when I started driving 23 years ago the distributor and the points seemed a poor system. I can then also get Mark Shead to map my car who is local enough to go back to when the car has further developments.
im not in the fortunate position to be near any of the big tuners ,and will pretty much build/map and then forget hopefully.400 ponies and rwd is plenty for me lol.but i take your point mate
Originally Posted by Staffi
James, you could use Level 8 for a 500 bhp car, just because you're only after 380-400 doesn't mean you can't go after market either , i had Vi-Pec on my Tommi Mak Sheady built for me and it was superb, so many functions and i have to say the idle was just like stock, Autroinc can be temperamental on cold start, it was on my Sapph and my other Evo.
Level 8 will do the trick too though
pete the reason i got the autronic at the time [which was before vipec hit the shelves lol]was because you had it fitted to the saff and it seemed a step forward when i rebuilt it back up .i never heard of a cold start issue with them so thanks for the heads up matey.im just thinking is it worth having 1500 quid of management sitting on a car that will probably do 500/1000 mile a year.
my old saff was l8 mapped by msd and was fantastic and never let me down
im sure mark said to me that their was a new updated chip for the sm4 that made it much better on start up.. my old saff felt like a new car once mapped on autronics compared to the l8 that was also live mapped.
When your this side of the pond James aftermarket all the way IMO
Unless your not bothered with traveling over the the likes of msd ,then l8 would be fine
06-01-2014, 03:21 PM
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