doga-ot

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So been tinkering with the idea for a while now, weighing up the pro's and con's and now after a few months of slowly but gradually collecting everything I need I'm almost about too start doing my conversion (near end of month)!
So far I have:

Boa engine with all ancillaries,sensors and downpipes with lamba's
Full Boa loom
Boa Ecu
sierra V6 rev counter
Engine crossmember (XR4i)
Whole front/rear end shotblasted and powdercoated yellow and superflexed
E38 brembo front brakes/4x4 cossie vented rears
2.8i V6 flywheel with cossie helix clutch
Mt75 hybrid gearbox

I think all I need now is a starter motor,engine arms(I have Boa arms) and an exhaust made unless anyone on here with experience of one of these builds can tell me if I'm missing anything else?

Will update this tread with photos as I start hoping to do it in a weekend-week max plan is too get front end (TCA's,ARB,Hubs,Brakes,Shocks,Gearbox bolted too Boa on crossmember/gearbox mount,track rods,power steering rack)put together so i can just drop car on it and bolt it all up. Hardest bit for me will be the engine loom :-/

Cheers
Wes

YOREVOL

i bought a 24v xr4x4(well known around manchester as angry taxi) after many 12v cars its a revalation. goes like a scalded cat!
i will be putting the lump in my 4i next winter when ive prepped the shell.

doga-ot

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cool bud I'm planning on, BOB cam,K&N57i,Tubular manifold,2.8i V6 flywheel,binning the BOA Ecu and running the one cosworth run with engine on production,Uprated fuel pump along with fuel pressure regulator!

WES

matthewpickup

i was looking at this engine for a while too , sure i read that people were using the cams and injectors from the vauxhall v6 24v to get more power ?

YOREVOL

you can upgrade with bob cams 10-15 bhp, vectra injectors are a waste of time unless you have aftermarket mappable ecu.the standard manifolds are very good. the 2.8 fly isnt as deep as 2.9 im not sure if it works with mt75. try fordpower some good info on there.
just put a battery on mine and it wont start now, think ive left a wire off but its dark and cold so it can wait untill tomorow.

doga-ot

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Yeah but its bollox bud the best upgrade cam wise is BOB and vauxhall injectors are shit this is what I was told from a cosworth builder who worked on the line during the BOA/BOB builds

WES

doga-ot

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Best mods for BOA are: BOB inlet, K&N, Tubular manifold and exhaust with decat, Cosworth Ecu, Uprated fuel pump, Uprated fuel pressure regulator

WES

mk22door

What do you mean by 'Cosworth ECU'

Could you expand on that?

Marc sierra

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Why would you need an uprated fuel pump if the original one can supply enough fuel at the correct pressure? And what do you mean by an uprated fuel pressure regulator? Do you mean a regulator that works at a higher pressure than normal? If so, that's the same idea as fitting slightly larger injectors (Vauxhall ones)...

Ade500

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There are a few that Cosworth mapped with a manual box , my mate has one

Ade500

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They do go well totally different to the 12v

mk22door

How do you identify these?

And Marc Sierra, that is what I was thinking.

blue oval 24v

the oem manifolds are ok and taking the cat's out is the wrong move

doga-ot

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Well basically the bloke from cosworth. He said he was on the line when they made the BOA at cosworth and they were 260/280bhp cnt rem exactly ford were not happy and told them to detune it so they did, down to 230/240bhp ford still not happy so took engine binned the ECU and used there own which detuned it to 200bhp! He said if you bin fords ecu buy the original from cosworth use BOB cam cnt rem which inlet or exhaust(he said change 1 for na and opposite if going turbo) bin the cats change too uprate fuel pressure regulator and better fuel pump engine will be 240/280bhp

WES

doga-ot

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And he said they did a turbo version standard internals on 1bar it was gd all day long no problems as it would not touch bottom end and was gd for 400 something

doga-ot

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Higher pressure fuel pump, and same with fuel pressure regulator! I'm NO expert on these just going on what he told me and he had a few of his own in his workshop turbo and na.

WES

YOREVOL

the ecu controls the injector pulse, raise fuel pressure and the ecu reduces the pulse time.

Ade500

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I will see if I can find a pic

Ade500

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Here it is http://www.fordpower.org.uk/forum2/i...ic,9974.0.html

YOREVOL

good job ive got a spare bob block(i used to have two) and cams, just need to find a complete boa and i think i may be able to build something very special. keep reading the thread about 3.7 conversion on fordpower.

Ade500

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Lol that bob had way better bores than my 1000 mile boost performance engine

What bits are you after mate ?

YOREVOL

looking for a boa thats siezed or bottom end damaged. i want to use the bob block, boa heads and timing gear. 4litre crank if i feel brave enough to take a grinder to the block. do you use std heads? if not who did them? i hear theres a reputable company around that specialises in cossie v6 and chevy ls v8's.

mk22door

Another site I cannot go on at work.

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I'll check it out at home some time, cheers for the link

mk22door

Have you had a bad experience with Mr Johnson?

YOREVOL

i can access ford power at work, might be because im from the correct side of yorkshire.

mk22door

I got a siezed BOA, but not sure of the damage inside - not been into it yet.

YOREVOL

dont get him started, youll be here all night.

YOREVOL

ill buy it as is, if its very cheap.

mk22door

Yeah, might be

mk22door

Not the engine - the 'right' side of Yorkshire that is

YOREVOL

when god created west yorkshire he sat back and admired his work. then realised he had to adress the balance and create something awful. hence, humberside.

Ade500

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You could say that mate

Ade500

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Lol

mk22door

It's just as well I don't believe in your god or humberside then aint it

mk22door

Is that why you have a beware sign?

Better leave it there then I think.

YOREVOL

i do get the impression you wouldnt urinate upon mr johnson if he was on fire.
i have heard the story and i wouldnt have been happy.
now i am going to bed(up at 4am) so we will have to continue this tomorow

Ade500

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Yeah he has my car on his website yet it only just got run in and it's fucked mate. Different size pistons in one engine lol tapered bores , wrong cylinder clearance. Shite girdled sump machined to 1mm thick etc etc. Julian Godfrey has inspected it and I have his report the engine never had a chance.

Xr4Timo

for any info on damn quick v6 engines from ford, read the minker section on fordpower.org

ade has a very neath looking 24v engine, but daves 12v is pure v6 porn, or the gt40 on a 12v from a member named grey is also a very hot engine.

ive got almost all my special 2.8 turbo parts from fordpower.org, manifolds, uprated bolts, pistons and rings, few other parts from all the different sales sites, but 99% of the advise and knowledge came from fordpower.org, some very smart, not afraid of thinking outside the box, guys there

mk22door

I'd need time to strip off various bits from it, then you can have first dibs on it, possibly?

Although I think it's likely that the timing gear is shot and I reckon there's some bent valves, but we shall see

mk22door

I'm sorry to hear that mate, he seems legit on the phone
Seriously, sounds like a lot of money gone down the shitter - I'd be well fucked off.