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Old 19-09-2011, 08:19 PM
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atm i have a 4 paddle clutch engines running about 400 ish mark, works fine etc but is heavy and juddery and quite annoying in traffic! been talking to a few that think a genuine ford motorcraft clutch or organic clutch will take 400 bhp? whats your opinions on this??
Old 19-09-2011, 08:36 PM
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I would have thought a 4 - paddle is a bit much for 400bhp, a heavy duty organic clutch would probably be ok, i have a AP one in mine an thats about 320bhp, although if i was you at that power i would probably run a 6 - paddle...
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i think it is too tbh, thats why im looking to change idealy after an organic one as that will drive nicer in traffic etc but can be asked to pull it out again if it cant handle it!
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Ap organic is the best for 400hp.

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Old 20-09-2011, 12:06 AM
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I run a AP 6 paddle with ford motorsport cover which is fine around town or when stop starting in traffic and I'm running 380bhp ish
Old 22-09-2011, 12:53 AM
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How much bhp/nm will the standard clutch handle? I have T3 running 1.3 bar im not quite sure if my Cossie still has stock clutch or not. It doesn't slide and it works very well, and its perhaps little stiff. I should ask the previous owner about that.
Old 24-09-2011, 09:49 PM
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i hate my AP organic one, now have snapped the clutch cable
Old 25-09-2011, 07:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Mark Shead
Ap organic is the best for 400hp.

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Thats what I have in mine Rob,nice clutch too.
Old 25-09-2011, 11:02 AM
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i had 6 paddle ap in mine with standard cover and it wasnt heavy at all, but the best solution is to go hydraulic conversion
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i had alcon 6 plate paddle in my 3dr at 400bhp/lbft - and with two left knee ops i can safely say the pedal feel was light and comfortable - i defo would not be able to drive it if it had an AP 6 plate paddle clutch in (which is what my saff is going to have )
Old 26-09-2011, 08:07 PM
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I agree on the Alcon... have run both 6 paddles in mine and I prefer it as it is much easier for some reason. 435bhp at the wheels and like you I used to have a horrible 4 paddle!!
Old 26-09-2011, 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by LHD220Turbo
i had 6 paddle ap in mine with standard cover and it wasnt heavy at all, but the best solution is to go hydraulic conversion
thats what i was gonna say
Old 29-09-2011, 07:46 PM
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cheers for all the replys guys.... ive already converted to hydraulic clutch ages ago, my pedal is quite light considdering what it was on the standad cable! the only issue i have is how juddery it is ie sitting in traffic etc, are the 6 paddles less juddery or will all paddles be the same?
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the 6 paddle in mine was not juddery at all, it bites quick!
Old 29-09-2011, 07:58 PM
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did you have a hydraulic clutch matt?
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no mate, cable, although it was a new cable
Old 29-09-2011, 09:12 PM
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Had my clutch done about 5 years now its a organic ap still fine and have done some made launches in it mines about 380ish
Old 30-09-2011, 07:20 AM
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My old donkeys run fine last 6 years

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ALCON-6-PA...ht_1007wt_1064

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Quality not to hard on the leg
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looks like il prob keep an eye out for an alcon clutch, but tbh buying one new for £460 id prefer to live with the judderyness of my 4 paddle clutch!!
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