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Can i run without a dump valve safely

Old 15-09-2011, 08:37 PM
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Can I get rid of my dump valve without causing any harm as im sick to the back teeth of the stupid noise I know i could fit a recirculating one with added pipework etc but id rather do without if i could.
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Old 15-09-2011, 08:51 PM
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yes you can mate as long as you blank both the pipes off securely otherwise you will lose boost etc etc! your vacuum side and charge side need to be air tight!

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Old 15-09-2011, 08:53 PM
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i did for a year mate same spec no problems i fitted a dump valve now as people told me i would damage turbo ect but took it off again hated it lol
Old 15-09-2011, 09:04 PM
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yeah on a t34, no problem
Old 15-09-2011, 09:05 PM
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its only really the gt series of turbo's that they are a must on as they have weak shafts and dont like the compressor stalling when letting off
i took mine off then put it back on as i found it slightly less laggy between gearchanges with it on
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thanks chaps ill get it off ASAP.... Can stand the noise of it anymore starting to do my head in......
Old 15-09-2011, 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by R5COS
thanks chaps ill get it off ASAP.... Can stand the noise of it anymore starting to do my head in......
now enjow the wast gate flutter
Old 16-09-2011, 01:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Cilly-jey
now enjow the wast gate flutter
technically its not wastegate flutter its the sound of air hitting a closed throttle and being chopped up by the compressor wheel causing the turbo to stall momentarily dropping the shaft from extremley high rpm to none and back again constantley (this is what snaps gt shafts) which also causes the extra lag between gearchanges due to having to spin the turbo back up to speed when back on the throttle
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Originally Posted by botters
technically its not wastegate flutter its the sound of air hitting a closed throttle and being chopped up by the compressor wheel causing the turbo to stall momentarily dropping the shaft from extremley high rpm to none and back again constantley (this is what snaps gt shafts) which also causes the extra lag between gearchanges due to having to spin the turbo back up to speed when back on the throttle
Thank god you cleared that up
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Originally Posted by botters
technically its not wastegate flutter its the sound of air hitting a closed throttle and being chopped up by the compressor wheel causing the turbo to stall momentarily dropping the shaft from extremley high rpm to none and back again constantley (this is what snaps gt shafts) which also causes the extra lag between gearchanges due to having to spin the turbo back up to speed when back on the throttle

Exactly the reason I left 1 fitted to this car as it spikes at 32psi and I wanted to not kill the turbo
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I think the sound without the dump valve sounds mint but im still keeping my dump valve on cause i dont want the lag.
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I love to know what this lag is everyone is talking about? I don't get it on my car with no gay valve fitted???
Old 17-09-2011, 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Paul_RS
I love to know what this lag is everyone is talking about? I don't get it on my car with no gay valve fitted???
its not major but is noticable, fit a gay valve and you will see
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