lime

hey guys was debating this in the shop the other night wilwoods or ap 6 pots, some guys arrgue the the wilwoods are cheaper and offer just as much stopping power as ap, but on the other hand ap is know for their quality and their stopping power, so i ask u fellow gear heads.

t3 dan

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If you can afford the Ap's mate I would go for them. Best brakes out there imo.

KSA-Cossie

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Buy once buy AP's,they're the best.

R5FORD

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as above Aps all the way.

Rsmat

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AP's all the way mate.

STUCOS

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you all say ap,s but explin why they are the best ?

Mr S1

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Build quality, reliability, performance....most major racing teams across the world can't be wrong....

Rod-Tarry

As with everything in life you get what you pay for. Their technical back-up is excellent. Their Motorsport department supplied a hotter running disc when we were cracking normal discs braking from high speed.

STUCOS

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Rod i know the answer,just most ppl on here who dont have a clue,answer posts with replies like ap are the best,but cant tell you why,i know all about the caliper not flexing as much as cheaper makes of calipers due to better cast/material quality,ask most ppl on here why a 6 pot is better than a 4 pot,and bet they cant answer correctly


cheeRS stu

tabetha

AP, better ?, really better for what, certainly the best out there by a long way for emptying your wallet that is.
Certain ap's are better at certain things, racing was mentioned, are you racing ?, beware a vast majority of racing calipers don't have the same seal arrangement for keeping out crap/dirt etc that road based calipers have.
Cost, is this an issue, like it is with most ?, so do you need to buy a far better product than the one you need, would the willwoods do what you want perfectly and safely at a far reduced cost ?
Personally I'd have TAROX over AP any day of the week, reputations gained in racing aren't always appropriate or transfered over to road use.
There's nothing wrong with willwoods, have used them myself, fitted a set years back to a mustang, willwood T10's, and 380mm discs, nothing wrong at all.
Maybe a better question would be, "do I need to pay over inflated prices for a product that is not going to work any better on what I'm using it on".
The reason I like TAROX is due to them having THREE seals on each piston, and being the simplest caliper in the world to rebuild should it be needed, with std "O" rings for seals.
I don't know why AP supplied rod with a disc that clearly wasn't up to the job, I would have thought they would known better, for the price they charge!!!!!!!!!!!
tabetha

ajamesc

i had cheap compbrake set up on mine and they were shit would fade out very easy hard brakeing from high speeds my aps are far better u get what you pay for and at the end of the day if aps wernt so good people wouldent buy them

ajamesc

i wouldent have thought ap were expecting rod to be doing 200mph in an f reg sierra for a start lol

MAD Ade

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COCHYN

I had the 6 pot Wilwoods on my old Focus Turbo, held up well around the Ring and countless other track days. But they're not as good in quality and size as the AP's.

No contest...

Sonic Boom

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Genuinely lol'd at that.
Rich

Rod-Tarry

Im sure AP didnt know or give a toss who Rod Tarry was . I purchased my kit as any other punter through a dealer, certainly was not running high speeds at the time because I didnt have the Power.
They were awesome brakes 6pot 330mm just fine untill the 200mph bullshit started. Then one realised normal brakes were not able to stop an old Taxi from 200+mph. I rang AP told them what was happening & their Technical guys said you need brakes that run hotter because you are braking 100% from mega high speeds when the discs are cold. The new discs had less than half the cooling fins & are still on the car 6 years later.
Like all novices I didnt realise what pushing the boundaries would bring to light.
I have used cheaper brakes & they were OK till power went over 500bhp then fade became the order of the day, went straight on at a roundabout diceing with a Beemer & rang Mark who suggested AP. I bought them the next day.

joffy

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How do alcon compare with AP? has anyone had any dealing with both of them?

dojj

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been there done that with both, the ap#s are well worth the extra cash but I'd be more concerened as to why you would need to rebuild a calliper in the first place.

I've had willwoods and stuff before and although the braking under normal circumstances was great, I don't think they would have lasted a pounding o. The race track like the aps have, if anything, the road set up I've got on the mondeo was even better as the laps went on and my confidence grew in the stopping power they could offer

MAD Ade

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Ran Brembo's on 330mm discs with DS3000 pads, they were good, but the AP's are significantly better, deffo worth the extra dollar

lime

we looked at some wilwoods the car is for the rd a 2wd saff running about 350+ not sure about the hp figure but estimated around their, the rotors are 331 mm x 35mm , 48 vein vented with a 6 pot caliper.