Austin101

Can anyone tell me if anyone has fitted a diesel engine to a sierra, other than a ford engine? And has pic's to prove it.Not going for 1.8 turbo "too dead" and the 2.3 is shite.

martysmartie

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Ford did themselves with the 2.3 as this is a Peugeot engine, it dosen't seem a very common thing to do, I would think a modern TD would be quite involved to fit.

Martin

Austin101

The suzuki grand vitara from 2006 on has a 1.9 DCI engine from a renault and its back wheel drive.But what what gearbox, that is the question? My father had a 2.3D granada far too slow

m4tt274

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buy a 306 HDI?

R4N SS

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what about bmw derv engines ?

m4tt274

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how come you want a diesel??

Austin101

Cause its easy run.None of the petrol are easy on it yea know. All i want is a daily runner with a bit of poke.

Austin101

Not a fan of BMW.

m4tt274

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you want abit of poke, so want a sierra diesel ...

buy a 12v v6, bolts right in, then buy an old citroen saxo diesel to be eco in

danv267

hello, right, as said earlier ford did fit a peugeot 2.3 diesel which was sluggish but had some torque which is why they went for the 1.8 turbo later on for more go, but they also fitted the same peugeot diesel to mk3 granada's but was a 2.5 turbo version kicking out 92 bhp i think!! in later granada's and the scorpio they fitted a 2.5 turbo diesel american VM engine which i don't know alot about but is the same engine in jeep cherokee's and goes quite well and with the mk3 grannys being closely related to sierra's and having lots of similar parts your best bet would probably be sourcing an old diesel granada and swapping the eng/box from that!!! good luck, will prob take a bit of time.......

Austin101

VW have 1.9/2.0 diesels that put out 180bhp maybe more.Subaru have 2.0 boxer diesel that can easily put out 220bhp so you have "poke" aswell as fuel ecomony.And sierra is my favourite car so i want the best of both,yea see what i'm saying

Saaamon

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For the hassle why not 24v it then have an lpg conversion.

m4tt274

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the engines you have named are alone worth double the amount of the car, i agree, i love sierra's too but derv sierra's suck... tbh
as said, 24v LPG, pinto LPG

Austin101

Pinto LPG,never though on that,not a bad idea the only thing is there's not many LPG service stations about where i live.I have a escort van but its hard to insure both the van and the sierra and tax them too.I'm just think out loud about the hole thing.I'v the car a year now and done nothing to it

m4tt274

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ahh right, i can understand the situation.
i would just buy 100 quid 12v v6 type 9 box, strip it out and do some track days???

shanemc

I'm restoring at td sierra at the minute, i'm replacing the knackered engine with the 93-99 model mondeo td intercooled lump, 90 brake std and easier to up the fuel and boost a little. But i'm eventually going to fit a bmw 525tds engine and box, the old ford td lumps are a bit of an agricultural engine that aren't worth spending much time on

cossiedad

I have thought about a diesel conversion in an old Ford before and there is a very obvious and worthwhile engine to use. The newish Transits have a 2.5 turbo diesel engine, with a 6 speed rwd gearbox bolted on the back already, which is not slow in anyway whatsoever (if it spins up the rear wheels in a loaded Tranny, think what it would be like in a Sierra!)
Highly efficient, modern so good parts availability, Ford rwd fitment already and bound to be a couple of written off Trannies about in the breakers. Or some guy (Birmingham area I think) who breaks only Transits and has rows of drivelines just sat there. All you need is engine, box, ecu and off you go!
It ticks all the boxes for the reasons to do such a conversion.
Any thoughts?

CosworthGuy

See if a 2.5 td out of a smiley face transit will fit. they put the 2.0 pinto int them and a 2.9 v6 so your hafway there then eh

ShiftyOldScoob

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If you're looking for a good,quick,reliable diesel engine then you can't really get much better than the 2.9 BMW units

There quick enough to start with but they respond really well to a re-map

Also they've got a nice rasp when you're giving it some and driven gently return 40+ mpg

Can't see it being overly easy to plumb it into a sierra though....lot of wireing I would imagine !

Austin101

2.5 is too big for a sierra.A 2.0TD is big enough like an Audi A4 1.9 PD engine but it matching it to sierra gearbox would be the head scratcher

shanemc

Google the weights of both engines, the 2.5 td bmw is only a few kilos heavier than the 1.8 diesel ford.

It'd be a pain in the arse trying to run the likes of the pd vag engines, trying to sort immobilisor wiring etc, and then trying to get a box to suit.

shanemc

Sounds like a good unit surely, wonder the engine loom is separate to the main loom though? It'd be hard to imagine it being that straightforward, everything else would be easy though

cossiedad

I've thought long and hard a few times about doing this conversion in a Mk 1 Granada using the latest Tranny engine. I'm pretty sure it could be done without too much butchery. At the end of the day it's Ford into Ford, and they've always been very good at inter-changeability. Engine loom can't be that hard to wire up surely? Few sensors required and feeds back to ECU etc? Wldn't think a Sierra would be that different. Have you actually measured the height/width/depth of this engine to see if it will fit in there?

shanemc

I don't know anything about those transit lumps, haven't done any research into them yet. Can't see what'd be difficult to making them fit though, the main tricky part would be sorting the electrics, but if you're competent in that area it shouldn't be too much of a problem

Austin101

Will a mondeo 2.0 TDDi engine fit a sierra and what gearbox?

chaffe

Sounds like a good idea to me! dont forget the turbo though

wulliesxr4i

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the TDDI out of the mondeo is also in the 80/90/100ps transits only diffrence bein its either fwd or rwd and if it has a intercooler on not, but then u also get the 2.4 engine in the transit/ldv runnin rwd only u get the TDDI and the TDCI, in the transit the engine loom is also part or the main loom but the same engine in the ldv runs a separate enging loom from the rest of the van,

the 2ltr TDDI engines can b mapped so easy in fact a guy at work has a 100ps TDDI transit runnin at bout 160ps and it pulls like a train,

the 2.4 TDCI/TDDI engines are also very easy to map,

so if it was me ad b lookin for a ldv runnin a transit 2.4 TDCI/TDDI engine swap the flywheel for a solid one with the clutch to match the type 9 sierra box, put the engine on to a type 9 sierra box(bellhousens are the same) and drop it in take the engine loom out the ldv and put it in the sierra piggy back the ecu off of a power point and get her mapped and a decat bigger intercooler and off u go job done,

chaffe

Totally agree with everything except the type9 bit, use a 2 litre dohc mt75, much more modern and stronger.

Austin101

Will the type9 gearbox not have different gaer ratio tho?

chaffe

mostly done in the final drive with most things mate

wulliesxr4i

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only said about the type 9 mate as a know thats they fit not sure if the mt75 would or not but sure if it did thenthat would b a sure bet as like u say its stronger,

and as for the gear ratios it wouldnt really matter as in a sierra its the final drive u worrie about, i.e 5/6th gear and the diff ratio,

if the 5th or 6th gear ratio on a tranny box is the same ratio as 5th on a sierra box then all that would slow it down would b ur diff ratio but ad like to think that the diff ratio on a sierra would b alot higher than the diff ratio on a transit box so ud prob find that it would b very long legged and would b a very good conversion and am currently plannin this on my p100,

Austin101

So a 2.0 TDDI with a loom out of a LDV (hens teeth around here tho)mate it with a type 9 gearbox and away you go. Christ that sounds easy maybe too easy

wulliesxr4i

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thats about it mate am goin to put either the 2.4 or 3ltr in my p100 so hence why ave found out most things ud need

chaffe

without the type 9 though

Austin101

Are you going to start a thread on this P100 mission so i can follow you.I'll stick to 2.0 TDCi i think easy on fuel in all. And one last thing what about starter motor?And thanks for all the info

Austin101

Will stick with the gearbox thats in the car for now.Get all up and running and then upgrade to MT75 gearbox

wulliesxr4i

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will b doin the p100 over the winter mate just collectin most of the things al need at the moment, as ur awear the starter on a transit engine bolts in from the side flush against the block and bell housin, but if u fit the sierra gearbox then the bolts for the starter(2.8 v6) go in from the rear of the box through the bellhousin and into the starter that sits down the rite hand side of the engine lookin at it from the front of the car/van

swadger25

hi there new to this / looking to fit another engine to my serria p100 pick . as well . was wondering what year of ldv we talking about?? many thanks

chaffe

quite a lot to this type of conversion using a common rail engine, loom, fuel tank everything!

swadger25

is there any more info on doin this convertion?? many thanks