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Old 16-12-2007, 09:00 PM
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I have lost the keys for my sapphire cosworth and need to "break" into it, but being a good boy I have no ideas where to start!

I have bought a complete lock set for the car so damaging a lock is not a problem.

Do I just get a screw driver and give the lock a seeing too?

It has an alarm but the battery is not connected, so the alarm isn't a problem

Any help will be great

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Old 16-12-2007, 09:03 PM
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I'd pop the window. Don't screwdriver it you will wreck the door.
oooooooooooooooo your in Kent. Do you want a hand?
Old 16-12-2007, 09:08 PM
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try and reach up and give the bonnet cable a good hard pull.
Old 16-12-2007, 09:15 PM
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Try this if its a worn lock, cut a tennis ball in half and stick it over the lock - then get someone to bang it / pump it as you pull the handle gently - didn't believe it until I saw it done.

When mine was broken into they used a small screwdriver and twisted the lock in the door so that the little rod that links to the central locking was pulled. It did slightly twist the lock in the door tho so be careful.

Best of luck mate
Old 16-12-2007, 09:16 PM
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The bonnet is open, just need to get into it to get it all sorted
for next year, MOT etc

Think I might just break the window, don't wanna damage any of the doors

Yeah sunny Kent, Rochester to be exact
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Originally Posted by AndyPen
Try this if its a worn lock, cut a tennis ball in half and stick it over the lock - then get someone to bang it / pump it as you pull the handle gently - didn't believe it until I saw it done.

When mine was broken into they used a small screwdriver and twisted the lock in the door so that the little rod that links to the central locking was pulled. It did slightly twist the lock in the door tho so be careful.

Best of luck mate
thought that only worked on Rs turbos?
Old 16-12-2007, 09:19 PM
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If you do pop the window, before you do it coat the window in tape, gaffer is good. This will stop it shattering everywhere.
Old 16-12-2007, 09:31 PM
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I'll give the tennis ball thing a try, gotta be worth a go!!

If not I'll break the window (with gaffa tape covering) cheers gkandr4ch
Old 16-12-2007, 09:37 PM
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No probs, I am in strood tomorrow if you need a hand and I am loaded up with tools to.
Old 16-12-2007, 09:59 PM
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Nice one thanks

I've got the day off work, got to clear a mountain of crap off it been sat in the garage for 6 months now
Old 17-12-2007, 03:50 AM
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Originally Posted by rand
Nice one thanks

I've got the day off work, got to clear a mountain of crap off it been sat in the garage for 6 months now
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Old 17-12-2007, 07:57 AM
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The tennis ball ONLY works on cars with VACUUM locks not sierra's!!
Call out the AA/RAC if you are in them, I could get in in less than 15 seconds with no damage, so don't break the window whatever you do.
I assume your car has central locking ?, if so as the bonnet is up flash the battery lead a few times against the battery post and you MAY find it unlocks itself.
A halfway decent locksmith will get in there in thier sleep so no need to break anything.
It is possible to get in with a piece of metal shaped a certain way, so if you have no joy PM me and I'll tell you how, it's bloody fiddly though!!
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Old 17-12-2007, 03:24 PM
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It scared the hell out of me how easy it is getting in a Sierra without breaking anything. Won't descibe it in public though.
Old 17-12-2007, 09:43 PM
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get a screwdriver flat type,wrap in a rag and gentley wedge out top of door and use a bent welding rod(mig),get a mate to look through opposite window and direct you to handle,get behind it and pull

done it a few times on sierras when i was stupid enough to leave keys in ignition and play with the batt

and it locks itself
Old 17-12-2007, 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by col cos1
get a screwdriver flat type,wrap in a rag and gentley wedge out top of door and use a bent welding rod(mig),get a mate to look through opposite window and direct you to handle,get behind it and pull

done it a few times on sierras when i was stupid enough to leave keys in ignition and play with the batt

and it locks itself
I've just learned to always always always open a window before I do any work on a car LoL
Old 17-12-2007, 10:39 PM
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this should work as i have done it will send in a pm as dont want sierra's going missing
Old 18-12-2007, 06:12 AM
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I always leave a window open on cars as a matter of course now too, not saying why though.
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Old 18-12-2007, 08:11 AM
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the steering lock will need a bit more than just a hammer to remove as you need to put the key in and press bits of it to get it out
Old 18-12-2007, 08:12 AM
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Both hands and your feet should be able to cure that.
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You should keep a copy of the number of your key so that you can just get one made, by any decent locksmith/key cutter.
There are only a total of four cuts on each segment so not hard to do.
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Old 18-12-2007, 04:26 PM
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You can also "read" the key to get the number from it. Someone taught me how but I forgot the exact procedure I'm asking him somewhere in the near future as I need to refurbish a couple of locks (ie, replace the tumblers)
Might be difficult "reading" it if the key is too far worn though.
Old 18-12-2007, 10:04 PM
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Cheers for the replies

I'll give them ago before I start breaking things

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It is easy to read the key as there are four segments and only four cuts, done to different depths.
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That's what I was referring to. Can't remember if 1 was the lowest or the highest pont on the key anymore
Old 19-12-2007, 03:24 PM
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Neither can I I'll ask me mate as he's a locky man!!
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think you will find ford keys have 6 cuts ranging in depths 1-4. 1 being a flat and 4 bein the deepest
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I think you're right davy!!
I had a figure of 4 in my head, but just looked at key, I do remember being told though that there is a refference cut which is the highest, as others are then taken off this ?
I will have to look at me friends cutter key holder for ford keys.
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