R5FORD

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can a 2wd saph cossie handle 400bhp on standard diff, clutch, gearbox?

gets driven hard sometimes..but most time off boost

escossie560

If driven off boost drive train will take a 1000 bhp when you cain it at 400 bhp the clutch will slip if standard, as they are not much good over 300 bhp ,the rest of the drive train will be ok as long as you show some simperthy launching otherwise you will start smashing rear diffs.

R5FORD

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i take it easy launching but one im rolling it hits 7k revs very quick
..

so the clutch will be an issue then

escossie560

its not the bhp its the torque that will do the clutch ,but yes i would say it will slip get a six paddle with standard cover ,still nice to drive but should hold out ok

R5FORD

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and wheres the best place to get one and how much

seems to be the main question when it comes to cossies..how much? lol

dave cos4x4

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same as above,clutch will slip at that power.

the rest...well should be ok if not driven too hard.

R5FORD

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out of these which is the best for on the road driving?

http://cosworth.info/store/index.php?cat_id=41&catname='ap%20formula%20clutch %20kits%20for%20all%20cosworth'

SS1

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i run standard diffs on my 4*4 but the clutch is an Alcon 6 paddle with heavy duty cover

cars a bit nippy too.also bought 2 spare diffs to upgrade there spec but havent got around to it yet ..

ps. i should say stu@msd fitted the parts...

i just have the pleasure of driving it

R5FORD

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how does the clutch feel mate? i dont want a proper nasty biting clutch..that jums out.i like the way the standard one is atm..so ot sure what the best option is

R5FORD

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avid-fan

what hp you got

SS1

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not too sure as car hasn't been on the rollers since i bought it sozz

its stu@msds old taxi

the clutch pedal is very heavy.and the bite is harsh..bit of a pain in slow moving traffic.but you get used to it after a while

escossie560

Six paddle on mine feels fine and i have uprated cover ,but i have coverted to hydrolic clutch as i was having issues with the rachet
but with a standard cover it should feel very simlar , make sure you ether skim the flywheel or get a new one and dont get a 4 paddle as they can be a bit bitety

R5FORD

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so get a ap 6 paddel with standard cover?

and get a new flywheel?

R5FORD

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well thats going to be a missile

dave cos4x4

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get the flywheel skimmed.

R5FORD

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thats the cheaper option..skimming?

escossie560

As i said skimmed will be fine as long as the existing is not in to much of a state, if they have to take to much off you can loose clutch completely as there will not be enough travel on the peddle to disengage.

R5FORD

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where can i get a price for a new flywheel?

dave cos4x4

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Fords.

any of the tuners in the mags i would think.

escossie560

Burtons but you may not need one have a look first

SS1

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the cars got a HKS EVC V Boost control system on the dash. 3 levels of boost(14/24/34) so you can turn it down for normal driving

R5FORD

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another quicki..my engine is completly stanard..will it cope with 380osh bhp?

Tangodeltasierra3

AP Clutch was about Ł375 from Woodford Garage.

Shings

My last car had 428bhp on a T4 if that makes any difference.

Anyone that knows me (including the new owner on the test drive sorry John ) knows I dont fuck about.


Lasted ok and showed no signs of any real problems - I imagine at some point it would have given up however.

mechanic28

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i have just fitted a alcon 6 paddle alcon heavy duty cover and release bearing got it on the advise from woodford garage costŁ360 aint driven it yet tho but woodford garage reckon they the bollocks for all round driveability got my flywheel skimmed as well fella

MAD Ade

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Get the flywhell skimmed, and use AP cover with organic plate. Woodford best bet. No horrible judder, and good for 450 brake

col cos1

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ive got an alcon 6 paddle with heavy cover and the pedals lighter than my mates 50k bog standard saph

dont ask me why i honestly dont know but it works properly

purplemonster

interesting thread
any recomendations of where to buy these clutchs and at what prices

thanks

mechanic28

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got mine from woodford garage

Kevin Sharp

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best bet is an alcon 6 paddle plate and cover, as light if not lighter than standard and will take 500bhp no probs! i had an ap cover on my escort once..i had it back out in less than a week

i just bought an alcon kit from woodford this week Ł385 inc vat and next day delivery

john

Mine is fine though i have a paddle clutch with standard plate, but never launch it really just let the T4 play catch up whhat normally works against most everyday cars what are not played with as much.

Owner previously Jake off of here gave it death as i do and all still going strong at the power in sig.

KSA-Cossie

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Davecos4x4 off here got over 400bhp on a standard engine m8.

R5FORD

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hmmm im tempted to speak to stu and go greys.. just gota uprate the clutch then

KSA-Cossie

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Do it m8,400 bhp is my next port of call.

R5FORD

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yh im very tempted..but then will 400 be enough

capri280

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i have a ap racing organic clutch fitted to mine that was bought from fred crawford

my set of is a msd stage 4 380-390bhp standard diff and gearbox

If you want codes for the clutch let me know

Staffi

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NO


Been there done that, i'm bored with 442 now...

foreigneRS

be careful about what people mean when they say 'skimming' a flywheel. this should be done by the same machine that you skim a head or block with, not on a lathe

Yura

How long do you use it at that power? Do you run T34(63) and greys?
Give me please codes.
Thank you!

R4N SS

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I had a standard clutch last 10K on 340bhp and then replaced that with an alcon 6 plate paddle with uprated cover. The pedal feel was nice and light and the clutch lasted for over 4 years including several launches and track days