Asturias

As the title says,we had a bad experience with a well known cossie tuner and after a problematic 8000 miles the engine dropped a valve head.

We need someone trustworthy who can put the engine back to its previous 400bhp spec?

Any suggestions welcome

rapidcossie

If it dropped a valve after 8k its hardly the engine builders fault.

what tuner was it so we know who not to recommend?

Bullett

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harvey gibbs
reyland
nms
mad
or msd

they are the top choice i'd say in no particular order.

Asturias

Never said it was anyones fault.

They basically built this engine below a required standard by using old parts and basic cost cutting.Having to rebuild the whole engine because of oil leaks is hardly what youd expect but the following failure did set alarm bells off.

Im sure these people have a stigma to their reputation by now,i wont have to name them-you will just know!

Asturias

Decided to rebuild it ourselves,at least then i know exactly whats been done.

The original company who re built the engine for us to 400bhp spec are called SCS-and myself and my assosiates (ex rally drivers) would not recommend them to anyone.

The problems were entirely down to poor workmanship and attention to detail.Below i will try to list the problems that were bestowed upon us:

1) Mapping was incorrect-overfueled initially.Then over fueled subsequently due to a re used ect sensor from the old engine.
2)A reused waterpump failed (they used the old one on a rebuild)Engine over heated briefly.
3)A distributor failed and leaked oil everywhere-re used old part again
4)Cam cover gasket leaked (twice)
5)Crank oil seal leaked,so did the distibutor drive.
6)Cam half moons leaked
7)Cambelt was very slack and had to be replaced after 5k miles (cheap belt)
8)They re used the old cambelt tensioner and was noisey
9)Plenum chamber cover leaked after 3k miles- they had not fitted a gasket of any kind to it
10) A valve head dropped off in to no2 cylinder and destroyed the engine!!
11)Big end bearings were scored.....Even after 6 oil changes and no track work!

These problems accumulated over 8000 miles,which is bad but the customer service is 10 times worse (once you have paid the money)!

This is not meant to sabotage a company name but i thought i owed it to cossie owners.

All the best.

jon@work

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did you have the engine rebuilt, or was it a previous owner of the car/engine ?

cossiegreg1

i recomend carwise uk
sorry to hear about your misfortune

320 bhp

carwise mate they just done my 3dr picking it up 2mora they are spot on

Bullett

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Asturias
im suprised at that tbh. ive never had a problem with harvey and he has a very good rep

Wayne Ash

Ive always used scs and never had a problem with any work they have done on my car

righthooker

as above ,i had my engine rebuilt by carwise and it is sweet as a nut,and i do abuse it lots of track days,Niel and Gary just wished i had told them the use it was going to get.They would have got me to do a few other things

mapcossie

would recomend HRD (ELY, CAMBS) ( HEAD RACE DEVELOPEMENTS)done a cracking job on my trackday engine, did a head refurb and repair on another cossie engine for me , not expensive and know what there doing

mpales

Its good to know the bad experience from tuners- specialist,congratulation Asturias that you have the b... to name the company!!!!! I noticed that many cars, come for sale...after retrieving SCS service-tuning....

cossie_pol

That's surprising,
harvey has looked after my car for me for over 2 years an bar a slight overfueling problem had no other problems, but once it developed i phoned them up an they got the car straight back in.

also had Dick at hrd work on a previous car for me an were spot on!

K.Goa

I`ve finally found a trustworthy enginebuilder in norway, EBB Flowtech Power. Currently building my RS500 engine, hope I can post som pictures of the prosess. Everything "inhouse" cnc, flowbench and so on. Attention to detail is unbelivable. His entusiasm for porting of sylinderheads is like no other in norway. Best of all, he knows how to use a calendar, so you get the ordered product when promised!
Located in Stavanger, only a ferrytrip from you guys!

Wayne Ash

scs have lots of happy customers and ive never had a problem with them

Asturias

Indeed,i really didnt want to name and shame but the standard of workmanship was sooo looow and the take it or leave it atttude was their other major problem-honestly you get the impression they sit on 20 foot high golden thrones whilst talking to you.

After the engine failed i explained the situation and requested they help us out with a quote for the repair to the engine.After three phone calls asking to call back with a rough idea of a price and what needs to be done they didnt even have the courtesy to ring back or show any interest at all.

They are totally out of the equation now,and the cossie has only done 3k in the last 2 years since i run bmws daily.What more can i say-pics are availible of the engine damage but its hardly makes nice viewing

There are other negative threads on them i have found,one guy who also had similar issues to me oil leaks ect....

Wayne Ash

well i hope you have better luck with your new engine builder but as ive said before ive never had a problem with scs and they have always called me back when ever ive rang and ive had 2 engines built by them and never had a problem

h460 ugh

no 1 builds a better engin than gs motorsport.

he is awsom

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bud-weis

i'd recommend doing it yourself, it's really not that difficult.

Find a trusted machine shop to carry out the things you can't do yourself.

you can spend as much time getting it right as you like, and the best part is you know exactly what's going into it.

coachworz

call them for a quote but they are too busy with other projects...

Asturias

Thanks for all the suggestions but most cossie specialists want to charge around 5-6k for a rebuild which is fair enough but not good for me-especially in this instance.It will be a winter diy project.

Now i cant decide whether to revert back to a standard-ish spec or go silly with it.

Worst thing was the car was up for sale and had a guy wanting it

paddyrs

i took my engine out sat striped it built it sun put it in car was goen sun nite at 11 mined that was a sapphire 2wd it was a full rebuild std tho it droped a valve after camshaft snaped it put a hole in a piston had to put a new head on

paul16v

Nice one mate, im sure the OP of this thread will find this really helpful 3 years later.

paddyrs

it was for anyone else thinken of building there own engine its not hard

rsmark86

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grace engine developments http://www.graceenginedevelopments.com/contact_us.html

he builds alot of big power atmo cosworths aswel he builds the nts boys engines and people like pig's ect

and best of all he is a cosworth owner and loves them so he will take extra special care over your car ....