cossiegreg1

when the car is warmed i'm having trouble firing it back up,its turning over quite a few times before it eventually fires.
i had the same problem last year and i changed ecu, All sensers,then i changed the loom.
When i removed the loom, i noticed one of the relays which is under the glove box was looking as if its been getting hot/shorting.
The car ran fine after the i put in the other loom but now it seems to be slowly starting to do it again.
Any ideas peeps?
CheeRS Greg

BigErn

Give Lawnsy a bell mate, Im sure he will help ya. Mine is out of his garage now so theres room for yours if needs be.

tabetha

You should not have to go to the length of replacing a loom.
Establish whether you are missing sparks or fuel when this happens, and find out what the relay does, what colour is it, does it have a fuse attached to the side of it.
It is more likley something electrical as it is bad when it is hot, though it could be coincidence that it got better when it had a loom change.
A dicky coil is a fav when HOT to give erratic problems just as an example, so if not already done so, a group a coil works absolute wonders on these cars.
I would look to see how the spark is when playing up, so that you can hopefully establish whether it is fuel or ignition, does it always PRIME on ignition ?
tabetha

cossiegreg1

Tab ive just been and took some pics of the old relay to show you.
(i hav'nt got time to upload.i will tommorow)
Last time when i had the problem i had no spark, but i havnt checked this time as it has fired up after a couple of turns.
I'm just worried its going to start happening again .
I forgot to mention that when i know its going to struggle to start, it turns over really slow and some times clicks as if bad earth, I then have to turn it over an over a couple of times before it fires.
cheers Greg.

tabetha

Classic dodgy starter then, or bad battery, to do this when it is hot.
Check battery then all connections, then as you say it turns over slow replace get recon-ed the starter, or DIY as most likely only brushes anyway.
tabetha

mumbo jumbo

or could be the blue sensor on back of head i had this problem but got it sorted

tabetha

The sensor at the back of the head is the CTS sensor which can indeed give problems, but it would be the same all the time, if bad to the extent of causing it not to start it would be belching soot from sooted up plugs, and be running badly, but certainly not going to hurt checking the CO which needs to be around 2-2.5% CO.
tabetha

cossiegreg1

blue senser on back of head has been changed so has the starter with a recon one. Also the battery been changed.
one thing my mate noticed was when you turn the key you can hear the pump and it constantly runs.he thinks its meant to stop after its primed but mine just constantly runs?

tabetha

It should just prime then stop after about 5 seconds, should of course be continuous with engine running.
tabetha

cossiegreg1

pump is continuous. it dont prime.going to change fuel filter this weekend.

dakar

iTrader: (1)

Sounds like fuel pump relay has been bypassed

cossiegreg1

is the fuel pump relay the one under the glove box, part of engine loom???

dakar

iTrader: (1)

Not sure mate but Tabetha will know

tabetha

The fuel pump relay is indeed under/around the glovebox, AND part of the engine loom, on 2wd.
tabetha

cossiegreg1

Well this has been changed when i changed the loom. going to check earth's and change fuel filter

mechanic28

iTrader: (5)

a worn dizzy could cause this fault