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Old 09-04-2007, 11:02 AM
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Default Let's talk about stage2 chips (330hp)

Hi all there!
What the chip is better for road use (not for drag, rally or other sport, just road use but with the power when needed to burn out) on Sierra Cosworth (4x4, std turbo, lambda), and why? What the difference between them and what is their distinctives, if somebody had a capability to check them in comparison.

They are:
1. Graham Goode Racing (GGR) chip
2. MotorSport Developments (MSD) chip
3. Bayjoo chip
Old 09-04-2007, 12:22 PM
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MSD all day long for me
Old 09-04-2007, 12:29 PM
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MSD for me too had a superchip in b4 and it was pish compared to stu's one.
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deffently a chip that you can have lived mapped, i.e MSD,
unfortunetly i live in new zealand and dont have teh resorces over here
to have the cossies live mapped, DAMN!!! you englishmen
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All chips can be live mapped, it is just a case of driving down the road when you do it, with sensors etc attached.
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Old 10-04-2007, 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by tabetha
All chips can be live mapped, it is just a case of driving down the road when you do it, with sensors etc attached.
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lol is that right i know all cossies can be lived mapped, but i have been told that no one over here in New Zealand has the software or equipment
that is compatable with the webber (marelli) ecu's. thus leaving us guys over here all with un-livemapped ecu's lol. unless someone like stu comes over here with all his gadgets and mapps our cars for us (hint hint, lol).

so failing that what does everyone think the next best step is for those that
cant get their live mapped?

1. just use a off the self chip an run with it ?
2. use a off the shelf chip an use the aid of a dash logger to gather info
of how the car last ran, in hope to write a better programme from the
info gatherd on the dashlogger????
3. fit a aftermarket standalone ecu (would love to, but my pockets aint that
deep lol).
4. ??????? got any ideas ????????

i is asking thses questions cause i myself is stuck with what chip to go for
as the car is nearly finished and choices for me are pretty limited. i just
dont want to end up with a chip thats gonna hold the car back.
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the same problem, mate. I'm from Russia.
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Hi..Im running a Collins Power chip..and has done it for almost 11 years (started with a "grey" chip...then at stage 1...then stage 3...then I was told that a A.Bayjoo would be much better so I tried a stage 3 one...but did not think it was better than the Collins one as it did less km/l and did not perform better, so I got a new Collins stage 3 chip )...and it works so well (336 bhp and 434 nm) and I do about 10 to 11 km/l at mixed driving ...so I would recomend a Collins chip/board at any time....

But I must admit that I have been reading about the CL chips from MSD and I am thinking about trying one and a set of the "old grey's" again...buuut have to find a little money first...
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I have drioven three with Bayjo chips and was unimpressed, they were ok just not as good as the competition, MSD are ace, and around half the price of the GGR chips, I will be going MSD next stage three.
DOX & SOULEYMAN,
Whislt live mapping is obviously the preffered way as it is done in "real time" situations ie the normal conditions you have whislt driving, it is not always necessary, for lower states of tune it is not going to make a huge if any difference, certainly the std chip st1-3 should be more thna safe to use.
Maybe we should start a DATABASE of MODS, so there is a "CHIP LIBRARY", to help out those less fortunate that don't have the excellent services of the UK with Tuning people ?, thye could then most likely get a very near one that would be plenty good enough, but safe anyway ?
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does anyone know if Turbo Systems in the northeast is as good as MSD they used to be cosworth to the bone
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That's a perfect idea!
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dox get a converted l8 ecu from rp labs - it can then be live mapped by anyone

not as expensive as stand alone ecu's as you don't need a new wiring loom or different sensors
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dox
Try the tuners in Hastings ( can't remember their name) but they used to advertise as cossie specialists- maybe they can help or how about a unichip unit - they are quiet cheap as the XR6 boys are removing them and going to flash so useually loads for sale on trade-me
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Originally Posted by foreigneRS
dox get a converted l8 ecu from rp labs - it can then be live mapped by anyone

not as expensive as stand alone ecu's as you don't need a new wiring loom or different sensors
mate could you please hook me up with a link to the rp labs website

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yep been to them in hastings, (lodge auto centre) mate thers not really
any cossie specialist over here. but what foreigneRS had to
say is very interesting an sounds the go.

lol keep the info going
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Most standalone ecu will accept most inputs from different sensors anyway.
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dox there's a link in my sig mate
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Originally Posted by foreigneRS
dox get a converted l8 ecu from rp labs - it can then be live mapped by anyone

not as expensive as stand alone ecu's as you don't need a new wiring loom or different sensors
just sent my ecu to rp labs in germany for the map editor modds
i like the sound of livemapping much better.
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dox awesome, you won't regret it
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