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Old 22-01-2015, 08:21 PM
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Default RS500 head T61 Turbo/4-1 manifold/waste gate. Dyno proven 650bhp

Set up has been removed from a julian godfrey engine. Was built by Julian and has only ever been dyno run. Full invoice with a list of parts and dyno sheets to prove

The turbo is a T61 and the exhaust housing is .84, was bought brand new and has only ever been dyno

Turbo has a little play but as its stright off the dyno and new by julian I have no concerns



RS500 head was brand new and fitted to a 500bhp engine, the race team lost its funding and it came to its new owner. It was then upgraded to 650bhp.
YN0627 head
standard size valves
It's ported and polished
Isky springs
Kent cams (will be supplied with kent verniers)
solid lifters.

Head - 1200
Turbo and manifold - 900

as a set 1800.

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Old 24-01-2015, 06:26 AM
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Still have the jge invoice. Turbo was 1k new.
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What height is the head? Has it ever been skimmed?
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Old 24-01-2015, 09:27 AM
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Would I be right in thinking that this head would be compromised/unsuitable for a 450bhp build (albeit aiming for 500bhp plus in the future)? I only ask as I'm restricted by 4x4 exh manifold currently.
Ports possibly too large so lack of low down torque?
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Hi mate, what height is the head and what are the port sizes?

How old is the unit, you say it was brand new when fitted?

Very interested in this.

Thanks,
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Old 24-01-2015, 05:06 PM
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Would appreciate a PM as well please.
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Will measure the head and port sizes later today with a vernier. I have a gas free test report from burton when it was first machined etc.

cams are marked KCD137, and KCD206 (They are rallycross spec)

collection from Chester, CH24SA, MDA Motorsport


The head and engine was a new build for a race team about 8/9 years ago but it fell through. Then it was bought by the new owner who paid JGE to fit the above turbo (new), exhaust manifold and increase power to 650.

Since its first dyno run, and the dyno run when JGF upgraded the engine, it it has nver RUN, never been in a car! Only on a dyno twice!!! sat on a frame and frequently turned over, whislt the thundersaloon shell was getting funds for its build.


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Old 25-01-2015, 03:14 PM
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All sold and gone.
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Old 28-02-2015, 01:03 PM
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Have you spoke to him Scott
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Yes jay via text tried to call wouldnt answer passing the buck now saying hes just the middle man still maintains its 650 bhp when given video of it being inspected its not a 500 head and has std exh ports im told would make 500 max as with std exh ports it cannot pysically make any more no refund offerd
not on really this games expensive enough without this kind of bullshit wouldnt have been so bad if the porting was even couldve took the ports out and matched but biggest being over 29 smallest being 27 would be pretty shit lots of oil exh side indicates lots of use or a blow up deffo not just sat on a dyno twice GREAT FUCKING COMUNITY SPIRIT AYE
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Where is the bill of sale for the head from Julian ?

Ill give Julian a bell Mon /Tues and see what light he can throw on this
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Some cunts out there! Taking people's money based on a lie is not good
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Well aparently this wasnt even the owner and selling it for a mate ! the plot thickens
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Thanks jay be good to hear somthing from the horses mouth see if this was me even if selling somthing for sombody else i would have the fuckin decency to refund the money and get the money back from said person rather than chuck blaggs no honour or pride principles are a thing of the past it seems
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This fuckers getting bumped till i die
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Originally Posted by smiley
Yes jay via text tried to call wouldnt answer passing the buck now saying hes just the middle man still maintains its 650 bhp when given video of it being inspected its not a 500 head and has std exh ports im told would make 500 max as with std exh ports it cannot pysically make any more no refund offerd
not on really this games expensive enough without this kind of bullshit wouldnt have been so bad if the porting was even couldve took the ports out and matched but biggest being over 29 smallest being 27 would be pretty shit lots of oil exh side indicates lots of use or a blow up deffo not just sat on a dyno twice GREAT FUCKING COMUNITY SPIRIT AYE
Agreed fully mate plus he shouldnt be selling things for his mate on here anyway
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The 500 head is bollox its the same as a 3dr head but with dowels for intake manifold.

Also those early heads had the large water jackets hence head gasket failure in the early days before the uprated gaskets
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Originally Posted by costina
The 500 head is bollox its the same as a 3dr head but with dowels for intake manifold.

Also those early heads had the large water jackets hence head gasket failure in the early days before the uprated gaskets
This was how it was determined no dowels either way to sombody that isnt experienced enough to know that makes it look more desirable doesnt it 500 being the daddy of cosworths you live and learn aye mate
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Gutted for ya mate.
Sorry.

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Set up came off this
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Absolute piss take.

Didnt you pick this up from the guys unit? Take it back to his unit.
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Just a car ride away mitch really cant wait to hear what jg has to say
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Lets face it, its not a julian godfrey head, iv seen the video!

Post the video rude!
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Mats already got it was taken to prove without any doubt that head is not what i paid for and not just me saying so but even after seeing it he said it made 650 bhp on the dyno so wont make any difference posting it, why hasnt he defended himself or his rep ?
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Link just text to him
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I hate scumbags like this
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Who's to say it didn't make 650hp on the dyno ? Surely it's the fact it's not been described correctly that's the issue.
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Originally Posted by JonnyBravo
Who's to say it didn't make 650hp on the dyno ? Surely it's the fact it's not been described correctly that's the issue.
most likely did on the pub dyno
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The std exhaust ports say read i wouldnt be on here talking shit without facts the specialist that carried out the examination stated this head cannot make anymore than 500 on those ports its pysically impossible
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Anyway fuck the cunt im not wasting anymore time winding myself up spent 3 yrs in anger managment i wont be undoing it on some lying bastad aslong as ive raised awareness and maybe save sombody else falling for this kind of shit im happy hard lesson learned better things to be doing with my time money comes money goes shit sticks
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This is the con man driving:

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Originally Posted by smiley
The std exhaust ports say read i wouldnt be on here talking shit without facts the specialist that carried out the examination stated this head cannot make anymore than 500 on those ports its pysically impossible


My own engine made 660bhp (740 on gas) with standard exhaust ports so that's not true. You just have to use more Boost. Open them up & you lose Torque. Julian & Mark are specialists who use small exhaust ports the others are perhaps not the specialists you think.
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