Brian

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How hard is it to get the gearbox out of a Mk3 2004 Mondeo TDCI 6 speed


Brian

B19 JUB

subframe off first of all fella.not that much of a shitter but damn heavy if u plan on doing it on the floor.
be careful when putting subframe back as it has to be lined up or the tracking n castor etc will be out and it will drive like one of those circus bikes lol

dojj

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yup, sunframe out jobbie

only 4 21 or 22 mm bolts in each corner really, but it's all the rest of the stuff that's conencted to it like the ipes and steering rack etc that are going to be a pain in the arse

then you realise why garages want to charge you Ł900 for the preivilige

still, you've got to drop the subframe to do the arb bushes too so get them done while it's out

DangerousBryan

4 21mm bolts hold the subframe to the body,4 10mm bolts hold the plates on to the rear subframe bolts.2 18mm bolts hold the steering rack to the subframe.2 15mm nuts hold the anti roll bar links to the struts. tie the radiator up at the top.4 10mm bolts hold the boost pipes to the subframe.
2 pinch bolts hold the bottom ball joints in. drop subframe.prise off gear cables.2 10mm bolts hold the gear cable bracket.
13mm bell housing bolts.

can you tell i do a few

usually allow about 4 hours on a ramp with air tools taking it easy.

Csm

Take it to DangerousBryan to do

Brian

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Cheer's guys

If i do have to take the box out it will be on the floor unless my mate can get me a rump down his garage


Brian

coco16i

Easy enough job really, just a heavy cunt of a box !!!

Not the best job to do if you are doing it on the floor but have done a few like this, would allow the best part of a day doing it on the floor, can be done in around 4 or 5 hours on a ramp and a lot easier !


Ł900 to get this done at a garage :shoc ked:: shocked:



I do them for folks in my own place at nights and weekends for Ł250 supplying and fitting the clutch kit.


Great job when you have done a few and know exactly whats involved, i use subframe locating pins so the frame goes back into the correct position it should do, causes all sorts of tyre wear and handling problems if its not lined up spot on.

Brian

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Shame your the other end of the counrty i would of paid Ł250 to have it done

How do i line re line the sub frame?? do you need a special tool??


Brian

st3v3

for Ł50 of diesel its worth the journey.

As said subframe is the PITA bit of this job, you might want to get a rear crank seal, as the tend to weep and its a gear box out to replace,they only tap into place and is a quick job whilst the box is out.



An independant Ford specialist did mine for me Ł800 and i bought the clutch (3 piece),flywheel myself off my ford mate

boost mad

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thats what i thought but the person that did it didnt line it back up. cash job, no reciept, no comeback. turned out the clutch and fly were also fucked ( the new ones ) so i ended up having to get it done twice

Brian

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Just went outside to go out in the car and i can not get any gears if i turn the engine off and put it in gear then start it up its ok does this sound like the clutch has gone??


Brian

Brian

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Just been back out there and now it works get al lthe gears etc could it be the salve cylinder??


Brian

RichieST

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You'll have a dual mass flywheel. I bet that is your fault, its very common for them to go wrong, and they certainly aint cheap to fix either!

dojj

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you can get normal flywheels that will replace the dmf versions

but if it's the slave cylinder, it's still a box off job

coco16i

Spend a weekend up in the Highlands mate and come up and get the job done !!


I got my subframe alignment pins off ebay mate, think they were only about Ł20, i'll have a look and see if i can post you up a link for them. If you are doing the job yourself its worth making sure this part of the job is done right as have driven one or two that just had the subframe thrown back in place and been quite a bit out of alignment and they were fucking terrible on the road !!!

coco16i

You supplied the parts and it still cost Ł800 !!


Fucking hell !!!!!


Did a 2002 Mondeo about month ago on the ramp at my work, started about half 5 and drove the car off the ramp just before 10, job done and out the door, charged the guy Ł150 and he was delighted ( he supplied the clutch and flywheel )

Would do these all day long if was getting that kind of money for doing them, 30 quid an hour thank you very much !!

st3v3

yeah, but next time i need it doing i'll be up scotland for the weekend with the missus

dojj

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i've got an auto mondeo, so i coulnd't give a fuck

edited to say, but yes, the prices are that high ebcause it's such a fucker of a job peole don't want to do it and put loads off by ramping up the price

coco16i

Be sure to do that mate.

ian s1

mate leave the sub frame on just drop it on the n/s un do the anti roll bar link n/s undo the steering colume off the rack [inside the car] then carry on as normal.Then when the box is ready to come out bar the sub frame down to make the gap bigger and move the box over this leaves plenty of room to change the clutch and flywheel. Done loads this way takes me 2-3 hours and no need to line the sub frame up when done.

Brian

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Well i havent touched the car but it seems to be working now have had a word with a few people and they are saying something about a roll pin in the top of the gearbox??

Anyone got any ideas what it could be as it seems strange that Friday night and Saturday morning it wouldnt go it gear but now its fine


Brian

DebraW

I had my clutch replaced at 108,000 in Feb 2010 the car did 2000 miles on the new clutch (replaced with standard clutch,flywheel, and new clutch release) the bearing on the new clutch release failed destroying the clutch, it was all replaced and I have done 3,500 and it is beginning to play up again.
Any one had this problem???

I will probably do it myself this time as I cannot seem to trust any one to do it properly, the pain is doing it with out ramps so it looks like a long job unless any one knows work arounds.

2642robin

need this done on mine ? anyone know how

daviddunlop83

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My mechanic i use all the time told me as a mates rate he would do mine for Ł120 supplying the gearbag oil but only for me as a favour.

Fu>king flywheel/clutch kit for the ST is around 650-700 tho tho for a non ST or 2.0 is only Ł300-400.

Jonsen

Anyone fancy changing the box in my ST220? Second gear has gone completely, can source a replacement box for Ł150 but don't have the tools / ability to fit it. Happy to travel.

Glenn_

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Ive done a clutch in a mk3 mondy before and I just dropped the corner of the sub frame down and rested the box in between the sub frame and the chassis leg.

DangerousBryan

It doesn't take much longer to get the whole subframe off glen. It gives you a lot more room as well.

Glenn_

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Properly better mate.But ive only ever done one and just thought I would try it this way.

dojj

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and everyone said changing the rst s2 box was easy, i remember 7 of us heaving away under the ramp to get the fucker to fit

BRAM

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7 People to change a s2 rst gearbox. Why???

crazycage

I changed the gearbox on my mk3 mondeo last year, looked like a shit job getting it out the bottom so I pulled the engine and box out the top took me most of the day.

saph4be

I done them both ways last garage I was at the boss insisted I just dropped one side and I found it a right fucking faff easier to drop sub frame

Jonsen

So with all this experience who wants to do mine for some extra cash?

dojj

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because someones said it was easier to do it the short cut way wihtout having to remove anything

saph4be

Ah the old swing the box method! Hard work!

rhinopower

What is this method??

dojj

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This was also complicated by the fact that it had abs and the rubber bands needed to be reattached

Should use just dropped the lot rather than faff about with trying to squeeze it trough the small gap

diggy9186

Hi there im new to the website and was wondering if you can help me with a clutch replacement and also a crank seal i see your from the highlands and you charge between 150-250 would you be ok to poss fit one for me many thanks

stuarth44

gee you guys must be very small
I would be hard to fit 7 of me at 93 kgs under there, um which to y,all is 15 stone
In France the DMF has failed, so where to do it no idea, still drives,
Got the DMF kit of National Clutch for 289 posted to France
nice to have this info though
Are you saying that you do not have to remove the airbox etc