oil temp and pessure gauge

walters0007 · 21-01-2010, 11:50 PM

can i fit a oil tempreture and pressure gauge out of a focus st in my zetec if so how?

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tabetha · 22-01-2010, 07:14 PM

Yes so long as you sort the physical mounting and use the same senders as the car used you are getting the gauges from, get ideally from the same car.
tabetha

matt1.8z · 23-01-2010, 01:07 PM

not sin it done yet due to the gauage get a readin from the st170 ecu so wont work off a normal focus ecu and not sin any one use aftermaket sensor either to get a readin

matt

RichieST · 23-01-2010, 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tabetha

Yes so long as you sort the physical mounting and use the same senders as the car used you are getting the gauges from, get ideally from the same car.
tabetha

No, they won't work, as the gauges take their readings from the ecu.

tabetha · 24-01-2010, 07:06 PM

All you need to do is match the resistance if you really want them, it's entirely possible, but much aggro, depends how much you want them.
tabetha

pdfbt40 · 25-01-2010, 11:50 PM

Actually not tabetha. The Focus was the first (with others following quickly after) that use the data highway signal (digital) for all the engine dials. EOBD/SCP in the case of the Mk1/1.5 Focus. There is a legacy pulse signal for speed (radio & cruise control), but even that is conditioned through the PCM.

That's why anyone doing a standalone ECU (MS, Omex, etc) HAS to retain the PCM to drive the standard instrument cluster.

Walters00007 did you mean the ST170 pod (Mk1.5) or the ST225 pod (Mk2).

Martin

magdriver · 13-02-2010, 01:38 AM

Yes it can be done have done to my own 2.0 zetec you will need the dash surround from a ST170 as the gauge sits where the coin tray is.

You need to splice into your wiring loom at fuse 36, 41 and 61 then splice into the oil press light wire Orange/ Black wire and splice into the Generic Electronic module connector 104 pin 18 Orange/Black wire and splice into pin 2 and pin 10 on the DLC 9 Data Link Connectorand splice into pin 9 at the light switch connector.

The oil pressure gauge will work but the oil temp will not till you fit a oil press/ temp sender for a ST170 and you will have the ice warning light on until you fit the ice warning sensor ford want £68 inc vat for the ice sensor but if you go to rs/st spares on ebay they will supply a new sensor for £8 inc P&P.

You will also need the plugs for the gauges and sensor from a ST170 wiring loom as ford do not sell the connectors and pins can only get them if you order a wiring loom.

pdfbt40 · 13-02-2010, 09:21 AM

Interesting, but are the dials really moving correctly with the engine conditions (hot/cold, running/stationary). Do you get oil pressure/temperature on a diagnostic reader ie. ScanGaugeII.

Certainly the needles move but no one who's done this in the past 7 years has reported it working properly without a Blackoak PCM.

Martin

garfitz80 · 15-02-2010, 09:34 PM

Hi All,

I need a bit of help, i need the number on the sticker on the wiring loom for the 2006 on st focus that plugs into thr boost and temp gauges so i can order it from ford.
I'm fitting 2006 on st gauges into 1.6tdci st replica and need all the help possible, ford need the number of the sticker on the wiring loom to locate the proper loom and connections, ebay sell loads of these gauges but nobody seems to be selling the connections or senders. Help and advise needed please.
Thanks
Gary

titanium · 21-03-2010, 01:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by garfitz80

Hi All,

I need a bit of help, i need the number on the sticker on the wiring loom for the 2006 on st focus that plugs into thr boost and temp gauges so i can order it from ford.
I'm fitting 2006 on st gauges into 1.6tdci st replica and need all the help possible, ford need the number of the sticker on the wiring loom to locate the proper loom and connections, ebay sell loads of these gauges but nobody seems to be selling the connections or senders. Help and advise needed please.
Thanks
Gary

Hi, did you already installed your gauges?
I have too one focus 1.6 tdci and I want to install the same gauges but I have't the electric diagram.

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22-01-2010, 07:14 PM	#2
tabetha BANNED BANNED Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: uk Posts: 24,646 Rep Power: 0	Yes so long as you sort the physical mounting and use the same senders as the car used you are getting the gauges from, get ideally from the same car. tabetha

23-01-2010, 01:07 PM	#3
matt1.8z 15000 Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: suffolk Posts: 23 Rep Power: 0	not sin it done yet due to the gauage get a readin from the st170 ecu so wont work off a normal focus ecu and not sin any one use aftermaket sensor either to get a readin matt

24-01-2010, 07:06 PM	#5
tabetha BANNED BANNED Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: uk Posts: 24,646 Rep Power: 0	All you need to do is match the resistance if you really want them, it's entirely possible, but much aggro, depends how much you want them. tabetha

25-01-2010, 11:50 PM	#6
pdfbt40 PassionFord Regular 2003 Ford Focus Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Guildford, Surrey Posts: 364 Rep Power: 7	Actually not tabetha. The Focus was the first (with others following quickly after) that use the data highway signal (digital) for all the engine dials. EOBD/SCP in the case of the Mk1/1.5 Focus. There is a legacy pulse signal for speed (radio & cruise control), but even that is conditioned through the PCM. That's why anyone doing a standalone ECU (MS, Omex, etc) HAS to retain the PCM to drive the standard instrument cluster. Walters00007 did you mean the ST170 pod (Mk1.5) or the ST225 pod (Mk2). Martin

13-02-2010, 01:38 AM	#7
magdriver Virgin Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Scotland Posts: 3 Rep Power: 0	Yes it can be done have done to my own 2.0 zetec you will need the dash surround from a ST170 as the gauge sits where the coin tray is. You need to splice into your wiring loom at fuse 36, 41 and 61 then splice into the oil press light wire Orange/ Black wire and splice into the Generic Electronic module connector 104 pin 18 Orange/Black wire and splice into pin 2 and pin 10 on the DLC 9 Data Link Connectorand splice into pin 9 at the light switch connector. The oil pressure gauge will work but the oil temp will not till you fit a oil press/ temp sender for a ST170 and you will have the ice warning light on until you fit the ice warning sensor ford want £68 inc vat for the ice sensor but if you go to rs/st spares on ebay they will supply a new sensor for £8 inc P&P. You will also need the plugs for the gauges and sensor from a ST170 wiring loom as ford do not sell the connectors and pins can only get them if you order a wiring loom.

13-02-2010, 09:21 AM	#8
pdfbt40 PassionFord Regular 2003 Ford Focus Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Guildford, Surrey Posts: 364 Rep Power: 7	Interesting, but are the dials really moving correctly with the engine conditions (hot/cold, running/stationary). Do you get oil pressure/temperature on a diagnostic reader ie. ScanGaugeII. Certainly the needles move but no one who's done this in the past 7 years has reported it working properly without a Blackoak PCM. Martin

15-02-2010, 09:34 PM	#9
garfitz80 Virgin Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Dublin Posts: 7 Rep Power: 0	Hi All, I need a bit of help, i need the number on the sticker on the wiring loom for the 2006 on st focus that plugs into thr boost and temp gauges so i can order it from ford. I'm fitting 2006 on st gauges into 1.6tdci st replica and need all the help possible, ford need the number of the sticker on the wiring loom to locate the proper loom and connections, ebay sell loads of these gauges but nobody seems to be selling the connections or senders. Help and advise needed please. Thanks Gary

21-03-2010, 01:16 AM
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