Ellsa

Whilst trying to start my car after a rebuild I used various metering units 2 I had didn't work so I brought a third , started up but ran like a bag of shite tapped like a mother fucker Reving at 2000rpm , obviously bore wash so I took the sump off and the plugs out , and inspected the bores rings and shells with some wd40 and a torch all seems fine ,
firstly are these symptoms( the high Reving and obv noise )caused by bore wash
Secondly will it happen again with the new recon unit
Thirdly is it just a case of new sump gasket new oil and try again ?

Adder

You must first check you oil pressure also, if it has been tapping as bad as you have suggested I would be removing the cam cover to have a look at the followers. They will go in upside down and will soon reck the cam. You should be ok refitting the sump with new gasket but just double check what grade oil that you are using. As for the bore wash to me it sounds like the metering head is dicking around tbh I personally have never had any luck with them. All can say is that if you find some that truly understands them but more importantly is willing to to take it on then I would just pay them what want .

Adder

Ellsa

Thanks for the reply good helps hard to find , I fitted a new oil pump with the rebuild so it should be ok , as for the metering unit I was trying to get it started on ones that were fooked, then Brought a recon one so would it have been the lack of oil consistency make it idle high ?

155lee

iTrader: (10)

Check the oil for metal particles,a sure sign the cam lobes are being worn away by the tappets.
I wouldn't say you could fit the tappets upside down,they would physically fit but would look wrong.
There's a bedding in procedure if you have a new cam/tappets,possibly if you have been trying to start it with no success it has worn a lobe down which causes the valves not yo open-cue tapping and running like a bag of spanners.
Pull the rocker cover off and turn it over by hand observing the lift and duration of each rocker,if there's 1 not moving much there's your worn lobe.

Ellsa

Ev

Everything was new and it didn't run long before I cut it off , I checked that today prior to the posting here , so would the noise most likely be due to the bore wash and like 2 and a half lifers of oily petrol in the sump lol , would it also cause it to rev high ?

Adder

Sound advice,

With regard to fitting the followers upside down I was speaking from experience it can be done. Again after a full rebuild, I was also having a problem at the time with the fuel metering head witch was just literally flooding the cylinders with fuel. His situation just sounds very similar to the one I had.

Cheers

Adder

Ellsa

There not upside down lol , and what was your outcome ?

Adder

A new cam and followers and a metering head that was known to work. Just a note of advice this was a few years back now and although my car still runs the metering head is now playing up again and won't fuel it properly so be carful of the ones on ebay that say something like removed from running car .

Adder

Karl @ FPT

A lot of confusion and misdiagnosis in this thread...
Bore wash will not cause high idle or knocking/tapping, it would barely idle (low) and stink of fuel along with black smoke, your plugs would also be really black too.
Oil consistency will also not effect idle speed.

TBH it sounds like you need to get it setup somewhere if the fuelling really is that far out.

Ellsa

Thanks for the I for turns out the oil was so heavily flooded with fuel it was act if igniting and back firing through the throttle body it was all covered in black shite, so I cleared it all out changed the oil new metering unit fresh fuel set all the timing up by feel and hear , is absaloutely spot on , put it on a co machine and was just below mot regulations more or less , so when I have finished the car I will take it for a proper set up and dyno