little bram

Hi all two things am just trying out my photobucket and second is I've just had this done by a Company that mainly builds Subaru rally cars so they don't work on sumps like mine but give it a go anyway my only worry been the oil returning to the pick up quick enough. They said the oil will go down the sides back to the pick up.

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lacey

I will be very suprised if you get enough oil back to the
Pump like that

little bram

They said they didn't put holds in the plate as that would defeating the object of want we are trying to achieve. I was thinking of putting some holes in the centre?

lacey

Are u still using the genuine baffle/wind age plate that bolts to the main caps ?

dojj

iTrader: (3)

you will never get enough oil back ot the pick up

if anything that's going to make maters worse rather than better, even the baffle on the bottom hasn't got any holes init to let the oil back in from the top of the sump

little bram

Yeah was going to fit the wing tray as well.

frsjon

heres a raceline one for comparison

lacey

Firstly if there is no oil down low then there is not going to be a engine
So you need a gap all round by about 6/10 mm
I would also get a recess pressed in the middle and put a hole in the
Centre of that to
Also lift the end that is down on the pan by 3/4mm

The baffle in the bottom of the pan needs a few half round holes
At the bottom To let the oil move to the pick up .
as at the mo your going to do a good job of
Keeping it away

little bram

There is holes in the baffle plate at the bottom the picture doesn't show them. I've try poring oil in to see what happens but I don't the poring 4 litres of oil in was a good enough test really.

lacey

I see them now
A little small tho

little bram

Is this your sump? This is what I was thinking of to this plate like them holes it that one.

little bram

Haha yeah they are there I am still thinking of getting the later black top sump.

frsjon

it was mate but i sold it as it was for a rwd zetec sadly. the pics done show it but its big winged and would of played havoc with the driveshafts

little bram

What sump you running now mate?

Chas

Has anyone fitted a 2 part Zetec sump to a ZVH/Zetec on a BC5 Gearbox? What mods have to be done for it to fit?

I know ZetecInside reckons a stock sump is fine but a recent trackday seemed to prove the opposite.

little bram

I think you've got to cut some of the webbing out of the sump to get them to fit am not 100% on that mind.

dojj

iTrader: (3)

i'm no expert but the holes look to be a little small, plus the main baffle has no space for the oil to run back into the main part of the sump which would be my main concern

what car is it going on as it looks like there is something attached to the baffle plate

lacey

Correct

Worth while doing

Chas

Are you OK to go into more detail about how this can be done and if there are photos showing what needs to be altered? This sounds appealing since it would be cheaper than baffling my existing sump.

I am hoping that by doing a couple of things my oil surge issues and losing alot of oil around hard bends on trackdays will become a thing of the past.

Chopshop85

iTrader: (4)

Fitted one to a IB5 box which is the same deal.

Cut both the sump wings off, trim away a bit of webbing on the front to allow the starter motor to fit. Then i had to weld some extra plate onto the gearbox sandwich plate (which needed trimming in a few places) as where the starter would be on a zetec was just a big hole to the back of the flywheel.

little bram

So the webbing you's are talking about is on the front for the start motor? I wasn't sure what you's where going on about.

studabear

muz

I didn't think you could use the two-piece sump with a standard downpipe, though?

Chopshop85

iTrader: (4)

I found mine needed modifying slightly as it was a bit close to the back edge of the sump.

Chas

Don't say that! I was looking forward to a cheap fix!

studabear

Mine was ok, as far as I can recall.

Chopshop85

iTrader: (4)

My downpipe has seen a few speed bumps in its time which probably doesn't help .
Although I found once I had made my engine mount and using a manifold adapter plate my downpipe needed to be 1-2cm longer so I used this as an opportunity to add some clearance to the sump.
Incase you can't guess, I'm very anal when it comes to these things.

Versus_Creations

iTrader: (1)

there are big wing cvh and zetec sumps on offer on other websites.

Have a look and see decent baffles and gates been inserted to get an idea what is perfect for a track or race car.

little bram

Where in these other websites do I need to look?