creator

So let me get this right you had your car mapped on weber managment by jano@oddkiddcreations it pulled hard and was smooth and didnt eant to stop pulling and you loved it? Then your were involved in a pretty big crash i gathered wich fortinatly you walked away from and then you had the car repaired ect then it never ran correctly again?
If so doesnt that point to some kind of witing fault somewhere pehaps? Im not saying it was just saying surley it was a big possibility?

creator

It was installed and mapped by jano@oddkiddcreations i then upgraded ecus
Sent him my new ecu (through the post) he had the same spec car at his workshop he put a safe map on it and posted me the ecu back and i then drove the car to essex and had it mapped for more power and drove back and never skipped a beat i was more than happy with the car/managment and running
And also with the service I recieved.

studabear

Aug 11th 2013 facbook convo of ours, have a read back through it

RSricRS

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The crash had nothing to do with the car running shit that was years ago! it had a CPS error @ 5k rpm, as said above james said they don't run correctly half the time this is due to using brackets here and there for sensors. Leave it on a cosworth imo now I've learned. Yeah they can run fine but it was all second hand, I sold it all which paid for a brand new after market stand alone managent with new loom and connectors plus it's got anti- lag / launch control etc etc. you have to pay extra for all this with cossie management which is ŁŁŁ, it's a bloody no brainer.

The leading tuning company in the uk has said it all above! Is that not enough? Am not saying cossie management is wank but it's simply not better than going after market. price it all up for cossie stuff, INFACT a custom map (real mapping) is Ł500 at NMS and similar at MSD which is the price for the after market managent!!!

RSricRS

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Ok fair enough BUT your sounding like am slagging OKC off when am not, I wrote a thread about FPT and the work I've had done, then Jano got on the defensive side about cossie management and pretty much accused me of lieing about MSD. Lol this thread has gone to shit.

creator

I dont mean to sound like anything i was just asking thats all i dont even own a ford at all any more and havnt for years.

creator

Il have a look stu i cant remember 2 years ago lol

RSricRS

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I know what you mean pal. This thread wasnt anything to do with OKC without sounding a cunt

mentalasanything

This thread is a classic example of how PF has gone downhill.

Well done on making a happy customer Karlos. Shame the thread got off topic.

Lee

Karlos G

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It is Lee, always someone losing their rag about something or spiting their dummy out!
But it's also good to hear MSD's view on old Cossie management, they are IMO the most reputable tuner in the country, they have by far the best dyno cell too, what they say carries a lot of weight.... There are too many people still stuck in their ways when there are better and more economical options out there, it's good that Jano brought it up!

Rob_DOHC

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I pretty much haven't been on PF for 2 years because of it

RSricRS

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Rob are you the owner of boost monkey?

studabear

He is, he might not be able to answer due to trading rules.

RSricRS

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I thought he was, cool. What can the gen8 actually do then? What features etc?

stuart collins

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yep totally agree thats why i dont think people bother with it any more , well done karlos i got rid of cossie management years ago dont no why people use it when u can get other never systems at good prices

Karlos G

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We can't list things like that on here mate as it will look like an advert.
Thanks Stu.

RSricRS

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Exactly, cossie management is expensive!!!

Rob_DOHC

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Sorry mate, I'm not a trader on here and it would be unfair to people who are for me to go into details, drop me an email or have a look at the site for that kind of info.

But I am glad everything worked out for you.

Best of luck

Rob,

Gadget

It may have been mentioned and I may have missed it but most people seem to use a cossie CRANK sensor for the cam sensor when doing the weber conversion, Hence at high revs they cause problems as they are right on their limits being used as a phase sensor. Why don't people just use a proper Zetec cam sensor? I always have done.

Rob_DOHC

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Agree with that Gadget, I have found the standard cossy crank sensor coil saturates quite easily and doesn't recover in time for the next tooth event when using a 36-1 crank wheel too, a couple of 10K resistors sorts is out and would probably work when using the sensor for cam.

paul xr2

This is the reason ive gone ofam on my escort cost me less than Ł700 all in including brand new siemens deka injectors

RSricRS

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It's a no brainer isn't it! Mine runs miles better and it's loads better on fuel.

RSricRS

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As well as being shit loads faster and more responsive.

RUBY123

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thats slightly misleading for people looking for different management systems. swapping from cosworth management to megasquirt isn't going to make it faster or more responsive or better on fuel its the actual map on either or any management that will give you those things

Smidydevil

Meaning that instead of spending ALOT of time and money purchase'ing cossie management looms etc etc and then getting it to work properly and 100% accurate to allow a decent map..
Whereas you can buy an OFAM ecu for an already running rs turbo plug it in and itl run (90% of the time) then just get it mapped and your sorted
Being that it all works 100% and is alot easier to set up and many many people tune megasquirt it is a great option these days..

And if you read the rest of this thread you would have read that Information in Context and realised they meant whilst cossie management can be a good system it's very hard to get one that's healthy,a decent loom, and all the gubbins and sensors all working 100% to produce a healthy engine and decent map.. What was meant was it is far easier and much better on the pockets to buy an OFAM ecu and stick with your already functioning loom and you could pay for your mapping session all this before youv even paid for cossie managemt with all the swizzle to go with it

RUBY123

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I understand it fully in context it's bashing one management system over the other when its not the management but rather the setup.
I personally wouldn't use either as i don't like either system for different reasons

Roscopeco

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The thing I don't get is the Ł700 bit ...... Does that mean that if I had an mfi managed car still , could I get a loom and sensors and everything needed for the whole management system ?

Karlos G

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No, OFAM is plug and play for a car already running OFAB/C.... MFI cars would use a GEN8 which of course needs all the usual EFI parts to be fitted too.

paul xr2

It was actually Ł684 Ross BUT i already had a lot of the efi parts needed. I paid Ł30 for the frst inlet and had the efi pedal and cable given to me
You could add another Ł185 on for the innovate wideband but i would of bought that even if it was mfi still

marky_g

I've had an OFAM ecu fitted by Karl very happy with it as its all looks factory under the bonnet, he also fixed lots of starting issues for me TPS fault and PUMP fault

Very very happy with his work and looking forward to taking it back for a remap

Rsmat

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Might have Karl build me a zetec turbo then when I've found a decent car ..didn't know he was a business well done on both parts.

Ric when ya coming to wales for a proper detail mate .

Karlos G

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Thanks Matt, happy to help if I can

Rsmat

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Sound mate ..I've just asked you to pm me a rough price on building me a zetec turbo mate via PM if you can ..as ill be getting a car in the next few months maybe sooner if a nice white one comes up mate .

RSricRS

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I'll be down when I get a 3inch back box fitted lol this 4inch is to loud for long distance driving lol. Been out in it today fucking flying machine, rocked a few cars that were very supprised!

RSricRS

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Karl will build you a good zetec turbo

Rsmat

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Sweet sweet donor meat mate .

Rob_DOHC

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Karl is one of the few people I would trust to work on my car. Top service and nothing but good reviews

Karlos G

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Thanks Rob, means a lot