rog

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Interested in this car, owner has told me it has a carb conversion, can anyone enlighten me what that's all about, and how it would effect performance etc?

Not seen this before

james kiely

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i havent seen it before either rog ,is it the old janspeed xr3 conversion i wonder.

it probabaly is better than the bloody mfi shite thats in them

Mr S1

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Never seen that before either....very curious !

fatboy billy

Looks a lot like an old turbo kit made for the xr3 by ford before the rs turbo was released

rog

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I was told about the car on another site via PM and got in contact with the owner who sent me the details, just trying to do my homework before I go any further. I'm definitely a novice when iit comes to RST's, and when ii googled it I pretty much got nothing apart from Janspeed Xr3 kits like you said. I think iit needs set up too, so that's another reason I'd like too figure out what exactly I'm dealing with.

Googled the registration too, and nothing came back either.

studabear

Looks like a combination of bits on that, I would think its a s1 replica.

That under bonnet picture has come up on here before, it has a xr3 type distribuor on it. (vac advance unit on the side)

Looks liken a s2 water pump and hoses.

rog

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Thanks for the info so far, its always good to learn something new!

Its definitely registered as an rs turbo, but in this day and age that could mean anything... any other way I can tell?

mk2grp1

engine code on silver vin plate will say if it is real rs turbo , looks a tidy build

RUBY123

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Pretty sure it was a kit ford sold for early xr3 rallying and there pretty crap

rog

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Google maps says I'm
4,609 miles away at the moment, so for now I'll have to rely on the Internet and brief contact with the seller lol.

rog

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Yeah I saw a thread about that, wondered if it was the same kit.

RUBY123

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i think there is a pic of the full ford kit in the cvh manual

It's Czech Mate

Looks like the blow through carb turbo kit made for the xr3 challenge cars to me, was available to buy from dealers and you could enter your car in the xr3 turbo challenge.

xr2mk2turbo

I agree, there was one on eBay recently ( the carb top hat that is) unusual for it to be on a genuine s1 RST tho.

CHRISP

looks like a SVE turbo kit which was similar to the turbo technics conversion for carb'd cars...ran about 5 psi.

iifc there was one on here a while back, guy called chrissy turbo or something similar.

pic of the car i had on file, if it is as it looks and is the same car i believe its an XR and not an RS

http://www.seriesoneturbo.co.uk/show...ight=sve+turbo


all the info you require is on seriesoneturbo rog, use the search button mate





top part of this pic is the kit

HaggisTurbo

I am guessing you are abroad at the moment then or in the middle of the sea?

What does the reg come back as in an HPI check does that say a Turbo or XR?

rog

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Well I can say with a high degree of confidence that it's the same car I've been offered that's pictured above, only it's on a different reg now (s1 rst v5).

Not spoken to the seller yet but since the car is pretty much one of a kind in terms of the carb kit it's highly unlikely it has a twin with the same wheels, and stainless tanks etc etc.

Anyway, not got to ruin this post with trial by internet, I'll ask a few more questions but probably walk away as it's not looking very promising.

CHRISP

if you get an hour or so free rog, nip onto SOT through the link above then view all the other threads that he started. it may have bit more information.

could it be possible that the engine is now in a genuine S1 car/shell ?

what doesn't help though is seeing this shit popping up on ebay quite regularly

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ford-escor...#ht_114wt_1141

It's Czech Mate

Is this it?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/escort-rs-...d=712607289714

It's Czech Mate

KEV 99Y was the only official 'works' xr3i turbo

This reg was however later transferred to the group A S1 RS Turbo that was later campaigned http://www.motorsportauctions.com/ca...-RS-TURBO.html

This car may well have been 'rung' in the same way

rog

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Sounds like the car, unfortunately pics been removed, doesn't explain why it has s1 ID though and a different reg as the resto was done when it was an XR3.

I've registered on the S1 site and replied to that thread, I was going to pm the person that did the work, but I see he hasn't been on there since April so probably pointless to expect a reply.

The owner got back to me and said he was 'shocked', since it's not my problem I'll leave him to deal with it and see what/if he comes back with. Apparently he was going to contact the person he bought it from.

*edited to add that I don't think it has just been an engine swap, the pics I have of the engine bay, every single detail is the same, it's too much of a coincidence, oh and it does seem to have 16i seats in it, which would tally up with the description in the eBay link.

CHRISP

how much is the car up for rog, is it worth a punt ???

rog

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It's not advertised anywhere, I got pm'd about it being available.

It's Czech Mate

I agree which is why I posted the link, sounds well dodgy to me, shame as its an interesting thing

TommysKeeper

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That is not an S1 shell. The battery tray is at an angle in the picture. The washer bottle would be down in the passenger wheel arch. The VIN plate rivets appear to be black whereas they would have been silver.

Looks like it's time to walk away.

Cheers, John

rog

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Thanks, I wasn't exactly sure how to tell the difference via the engine bay, but I was aware they had some subtle differences, clears that up!

Agree with you, taken a possibly unique/rare car and inadvertently ruined it by giving it an rst ID lol

It's Czech Mate

In that case it looks like a late revision 16i shell, so it could be one of the works cars if there's any missing!

CHRISP

thats what i was thinking earlier on, its a different way to look at it but ignore the V5 (as it obviously been swapped) and concentrate on what the car could be itself

rog

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I've spoken to the "old" owner of B172 PRE and the seller of B638 BML, I'm not going to waste any more time with this car as frankly I can't trust someone on their word at the other end of the country.

To me both cars are identical, unless I ever get a photo of them parked next to each other I smell shite!

History is interesting, but for the money it's going for I could have a genuine average-ish rs turbo that doesn't need much work, I'll let someone else take the risk.